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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #120 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

its just inevitable.

a highly highly infectious respiratory virus which mutates and can spread to the corners of the globe in hours!!!!.

you cant keep a fat lethargic toad out.

you wont be hit hard, so much as have to adapt to the new norm.

community transmission

some deaths

some need for the vulnerable to isolate

lots of vaccinations

fortress WA cant keep out a toad.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

hospitalisations and deaths in texas and florida have plummeted.

back to business as usual.

they are over the pandemic in 15 months.

WA has not even begun to take their medicine.

they are going to be so far left behind , they will rue the day they foolishly thought they could hide under the bed and the tsunami would magicly spare them

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #121 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:20am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

its not complacency.

its acceptance of inevitability.

No. It's complacency.

I live here. I know.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #122 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:22am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:14am:

Really

How long will business-as-usual last

When eventually the eastern states open up to international travel and accept a level of community spread of covid.
Which is what every other place on earth will eventually accept
How are you get on with your inevitable travel to eastern states
With your football teams and cricket teams
With people from the east who have relatives in western Australia
People who are asymptomatic carriers

Do you honestly think that you can keep this virus away if it becomes endemic and rest of the world

No.

We're going to get hit hard one day.

That's what I've been saying for ages.

We're too complacent here.

you will never ever ever keep this out.

why not face it now instead of making it the boogie man.

Is English not your first language?

"We're going to get hit hard one day.

"That's what I've been saying for ages."

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #123 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:53am

If you get a letter from the tax office saying you are about to be audited

You can do what western Australia is doing

And throw the letter in the bottom drawer

And hope that the threat will just go away

Or you can face up to the threat

And confront it head on

Throwing that audit letter in the bottom drawer
Is making western Australia feel all smug
Because they are able to just ignore it

But that audit letter is your destiny

You can't make the threat go away by ignoring it

The problem just becomes bigger and stronger
And you become smaller and weaker

When I think about the people who are most afraid of this virus
It seems to me they are shrinking away from life
They are becoming smaller and weaker
That's not a fruitful long-term strategy

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #125 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death
Roll Eyes

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #126 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:16am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death

It's OK to appropriate words when done advisedly...

In this case it betrays your unenlightened sense of fatalism...

In your cosmos, every disease or catastrophe is destined to become 'endemic', so (particularly where rational and intelligent focus are required) 'resistance is useless'.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #127 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:22am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:00am:

cods wrote on Apr 19^th, 2021 at 11:07pm:

I have to agree with you aqua a huge over reaction in WA they will never build up any immunity at that rate... even a lift has to be sterilised........... Roll Eyes

come on!!!!!

I can only guess everyone is living in fear over there.... and I am amazed they do not care about this isolation or bubble they will be living in especially waiting for this virus to wear itself out.... Cheesy

which appears to be what they are hoping for....Houston WA has a great big problem..

Living in fear? In WA?

You wouldn't even know there was a pandemic here.

Life is normal.

You have to sign in to pubs and shops with an app - that's about the only change here.

Nobody is living in fear - it's business as usual here.

you are avoiding the facts mate closing your borders is not normal living... it cannot be sustained ..

rhino wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 2:33am:

I am currently living in WA and there is no isolation, there is the check in app at the stores but one one cares. And their economy is economy is booming. Huge dollars coming in from iron ore, t[highlight]hey can stay isolated indefinitlely

sorry mate I disagree no one can do that....if you only eat iron ore... maybe Undecided

and even then I still say NO ONE CAN

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #128 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:16am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:09am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 6:58am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 5:34am:

the cane toad has become endemic in the kimberleys.

What does endemic mean to you?

Initially you might have an outbreak

You might have a few cases of cane toads or a few cases of coronavirus
And you can snuff them out into non existence

But there comes a point when you have to accept that eradication is an unlikely prospect
You have been accepted that this new biological entity is now endemic

Influenza for example would appear to be endemic
It has been circulating globally for 100 years
It is a highly infectious respiratory virus that mutates
So we do it we can and then learn to live as normal life as possible
We don't have the media reporting on every case of influenza for the last 100 years

Kovid now appear to be likely to become an endemic virus
Is a highly contagious respiratory virus which mutates
So we should do it we can and learn to live as normal life as possible
Part of that will involve the media not reporting on every single case of covert as if it is a catastrophic death

It's OK to appropriate words when done advisedly...

In this case it betrays your unenlightened sense of fatalism...

In your cosmos, every disease or catastrophe is destined to become 'endemic', so (particularly where rational and intelligent focus are required) 'resistance is useless'.

North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #129 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #130 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:02am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.

North what has got into you

You appear to be channeling Gregory

Are you denying that measles and mumps and chickenpox are still endemic diseases

Aqua scooter is very much in favour of vaccinations
To reduce the number of infections

This is the case for measles and mumps and rubella and chickenpox
But are you saying they have been eradicated
Not as far as I am aware

And if we accept that there are going to be ongoing cases for the foreseeable future
Then how can you justify the concept of fortress western Australia

It makes no sense

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #131 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:05am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:02am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 7:42am:

North

You shall not baffle me with bulshit

Would you accept that chicken pox is an endemic disease
We just get outbreaks of it all over the world on a semi-continuous basis

If you accept the chickenpox is an endemic disease
And if in the future we are going to get outbreaks all over the world on a semi-continuous basis of coronavirus

Then how much mental masturbation do you have to participate in to deny that coronavirus is going to become an endemic disease Roll Eyes

You're not nearly as smart or insightful as you imagine yourself to be...

Smallpox and polio would still be rampaging throughout the world under your 'instant noodle' philosophy.

50+ years ago, measles, mumps and rubella were 'endemic' and now... not.

There is a vaccine for chicken pox.

In your world, none of this would have happened...

You should try not listening to your cows.

North what has got into you

You appear to be channeling Gregory

Are you denying that measles and mumps and chickenpox are still endemic diseases

Aqua scooter is very much in favour of vaccinations
To reduce the number of infections

This is the case for measles and mumps and rubella and chickenpox
But are you saying they have been eradicated
Not as far as I am aware

And if we accept that there are going to be ongoing cases for the foreseeable future
Then how can you justify the concept of fortress western Australia

It makes no sense

I think I know your greatest inner fear... You fear that every thought that comes into your head is not immediately true... I'd bet you can't tell the difference between whether you dreamed something or read it.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #132 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am

Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked

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Reply #133 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:32am

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #134 - Apr 20^th, 2021 at 9:23am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 20^th, 2021 at 8:26am:

Who is to guarantee that reading something is a more reliable source of the truth then ones intuition anyway

You could read something about coronavirus on an anti vaxxers blog
That would be highly unlikely to be truthful

But you are missing the crucial point North

I am saying
That my gut intuition
Is that coronavirus is probably going to be with us for a very long time
Short of some new technology to eradicate it

Have we eradicated HIV since it jumped into our species
Have we eradicated staphylococcus
Far from it
Multiple resistant staphylococcus has not only been impossible to eradicate
In my opinion it will kill more people in two decades
Then any other disease

My gut intuition comes from a daily hands-on interaction with mother nature
Fortress western Australia is an attempt to construct a garden of Eden
With thick enough walls to keep all the chaos out

That will never ever ever happen

You can never build those walls high enough or thick enough to prevent the mayhem getting in
Farmers no it

The mice and snakes and vermin and worms and disease and weeds always get in
And a highly contagious respiratory virus???
the chance that western Australia can build those walls high enough and thick enough to keep that out
It is you that is dreaming North
Perhaps it's more of a nightmare Shocked

Now you're all over the shop...

I'm not arguing (and haven't) that hard borders in themselves necessarily prevent invasion of anything.

I wasn't making that point.

He doesn't understand.

No matter how many times you explain something to him, he just ignores it and goes off on his own completely irrelevant tangent.

It's weird.

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