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Reply #1080 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 6:57am
 
Well nobody has any immunity to covid so that is why is spreading in summer

What will happen when we get both coved and the flu together?

Well you can be 100% certain we will be getting them together
So it is very wise of you to ask someone with Aquascoots common sense what's going to happen

So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name

That sounds pretty rational to me
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Reply #1081 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:30am
 
Just shows how out of touch Peter Dutton and the Federal government is with how people feel here in WA.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-today-live-coronavirus... (need to scroll down for the story so I've quoted the whole thing).

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'You can see the disappointment' says Dutton
By Richard Wood 04:20

Federal government front bencher Peter Dutton says West Australians have been left wondering what's next after Premier Mark McGowan pushed back the February 5 border reopening date.

Mr Dutton told Today many WA residents would be feeling disappointed by the decision.

"You can see the disappointment when you hear the West Australians speak and they're asking what next? How do they get through this?" he said.

"The most important thing is to see WA through to the other side.

"People are separated from their families, there are small businesses suffering, West Australians want to be opened up to the rest of the country so they can travel again."


Really, Peter? You can see the disappointment in WA already after the announcement was made by Mark McGowan last night? Hilarious stuff.

At last count nearly 80% of West Australians wanted the "hard border" to continue so I doubt there's too many people disappointed today.

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"People are separated from their families, there are small businesses suffering, West Australians want to be opened up to the rest of the country so they can travel again."


No they don't (except maybe the bogans who miss Bali) and I'm sure small businesses here will not be suffering as much as those in the eastern States with Covid running loose.

Oh, and... "SIT DOWN BOOFHEAD!"

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #1082 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:43am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 6:57am:
So thank you for that Carl and I am glad to be of service

We won't get twice as many deaths by having twice as many nasty respiratory viruses
For the simple reason that the groups which are susceptible to 1 are the identical people who are susceptible to the other

So it may not alter the death rate much at all
It may sound callous and please don't take it that way

But you can't die twice so you can't be counted in the statistics twice
If someone with really bad health was to succumb to the flu they been won't be available to succumb to covert and vice versa

I think that once we come to terms with this new endemic respiratory virus
We will just treat it like every other endemic respiratory virus

Currently in the middle of winter
The UK is losing exactly the same number of people to covert
As it usually losses to influenza

The rather sensible British say to themselves
We never shutdown society for influenza so why would we shut down society for influenza with the different name


That sounds pretty rational to me


So, you're still saying Covid is no worse than the flu?

I'm sure the relatives and friends of the 5 million dead (and counting) would tend to disagree with that.

Oh, and...

Will COVID-19 become endemic? Why 'mild Omicron' won't end the pandemic

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Professor of Biosecurity at the University of NSW Raina MacIntyre said COVID-19 will never be endemic.
"Case numbers can rise very quickly, requiring surge capacity in the health system," she said.
"If case numbers overwhelm the health system, people who could have survived with oxygen or other therapy are unable to get into hospital and the death rates rises.
"The death rates we quote depend on everyone who needs hospital care receiving it."


Others tend to disagree, of course. But, with all the mistakes we've seen made by governments and health officials in the past 2 years I believe we must always look at Covid from a worst case scenario from here onwards.


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Reply #1083 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am
 
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus
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Reply #1084 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:52am
 
And thank you for bringing up Peter Dutton

One of our most admirable politicians

Strong confident and competent
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Reply #1085 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am
 
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
46 deaths
in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone.  Shocked

Edit: Plus another
20 lives lost
in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's
66 deaths from just 2 States so far.


aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.

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Reply #1086 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:42am
 
Oh Carl you are just being silly

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who are appropriately vaccinated
That would be the consensus

The chief health officer Dr Murphy said so yesterday

Everyone is going to catch omicron
That is also the consensus

The head of the ama said it
Chief health officers of Queensland New South Wales Victoria and South Australia have set it

Listen to The science Karl

Don't listen to Mr McGowan he is living in a false reality
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Reply #1087 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:51am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 5:23am:
omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.


Just for the record, the people of WA didn't make the decision; it wasn't a referendum.

Its' a political decision backed by medical advice.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.
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Reply #1088 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:56am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am:
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
46 deaths
in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone.  Shocked

Edit: Plus another
20 lives lost
in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's
66 deaths from just 2 States so far.


aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.



As I have pointed out to you before Carl, you must keep things in perspective. There are 8 million people in NSW. As of last night:

259, 132 active covid cases
2743 in hospital
209 in ICU
68 on ventilators. 

So doing the sums here, only some 3% of the population has Covid at the present time, of those only around 1% are in hospital, of those only around 8% are in ICU and of those only 30% are on ventilators. The unvaccinated or partially vaccinated make up the majority of these hospital admissions.

So you can see that the panic being encouraged by the media and irresponsible people like the WA Premier is unwarranted. However given that Stockholm Syndrome is rampant among WA natives it isn't surprising that the Premier is able to get away with this and still have support from the frightened people.
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Reply #1089 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 9:22am
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:05am:
A very wise decision by Mark McGowan because who in their right mind would want this to be happening here in WA?

Just out now...

https://twitter.com/NSWHealth/status/1484284644724211714

That's
46 deaths
in the last 24 hours just for NSW alone.  Shocked

Edit: Plus another
20 lives lost
in Victoria in the past 24 hours.

https://twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1484286490117304322

That's
66 deaths from just 2 States so far.


aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 7:51am:
Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who have been vaccinated

I think that would be the consensus


Are you still going to keep pushing that after seeing today's death totals for NSW and Victoria?

Oh, and the reason for the number of cases dropping to about a fifth of what they were a few weeks back for both States is because the number of tests are now about a tenth of what they used to be because many people can't get tested which was obviously the plan to try and make it look like things were getting better but that would depend on how many people are fooled by this.

Thank goodness Mark McGowan wasn't fooled.



Scoot will say those people who died either didn't matter, or didn't deserve to live because the were old or overweight.

He'll say and advocate for anything to protect his ego from being exposed to evidence that don't suit his opinions.
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Reply #1090 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:11am
 
Incorrect unhappy marsupial

Scoot would say that here on planet Earth
It is impossible to eliminate death

Maybe you and Carl can move to some other planet
Where nobody dies

But if you want to stay here you have to accept reality

Another word for reality is

The truth
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Reply #1091 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:16am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 8:42am:
Oh Carl you are just being silly

Omicron is no worse than the flu for those who are appropriately vaccinated
That would be the consensus

The chief health officer Dr Murphy said so yesterday

Everyone is going to catch omicron
That is also the consensus

The head of the ama said it
Chief health officers of Queensland New South Wales Victoria and South Australia have set it

Listen to The science Karl



I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.
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Reply #1092 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:20am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:16am:
I agree, Carl. You listen to the science.

If you need any stats, just ask Aquascoot.


Thank you, Mustapha. I will.

aqua, can you estimate for us how many of the 5 million+ COVID-19 deaths worldwide (so far) would have occurred if Covid hadn't existed?

Take your time... I have all day.
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Reply #1093 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:22am
 
McGowan to WA and the rest of the world

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Reply #1094 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 10:23am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 5:23am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:31pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 11:14pm:
I see WA is following New Zealand's strategy.

No reopening until booster doses administered reach 80 - 90 %.

No date given for reopening of the border

Watch out WA's unvaxxed! The gloves are off!


McGowan proves there is no strategy, just stalling.

The right move until Omicron goes down maybe, but you can't do it forever.

WA will never have enough vaccinations, as every schoolboy knows.

What happened tonight was a powerful strategic move.

Now, both WA politicians and senior medical advisors are off the hook.

If omicron gets to WA anyway, then it won't be because the government opened the gate, it will be 'an act of god'.

And the blame has now been deflected onto those unvaxxed. They are now the reason WA can't reopen its borders.

It won't surprise me if WA's unvaxxed are ordered to remain inside at home indefinitely except in medical emergencies.


omicron doesnt really care what mr mcgowan thinks or does.
its going to do what its going to do.
the ideal time to open would be whilst people have the highest level of antibodies .
delay doesnt really help you.

qld saw a DROP in the number of ICU admissions yesterday.

and lets not forget omicron is killing significantly less people then seasonal flu in 2018 which killed several thousand.

in fact, it will probably just be the case that omicron kills the same people the flu used to.

the flu needle in 2018 had a 58 % efficacy and thats probably comparable to current corona vaccines.

we didnt close states in 2018 but we are now.

i think its just because people havent dealt with it before.

i know about 35 people in qld who have had omicron and they are all fine.
a few had a day or two with headaches and temps and felt exhausted but all fine now.

nowhere near as bad as ross river or q fever.
not even in the same ballpark.

they are now not going to be able to be terrified by the mainstream media because it wasnt terrible.

thats probably what ends the pandemic in a month to 6 weeks.

everyone gets it and then sees it wasnt such a big deal.

WA is just delaying because they are scared.
why wouldnt people be scared when this has been blown up in the media for the last 2 years.

thats unnatural.
covid is natural.
getting it is natural.


a year spent in africa where malaria still kills 1 million people a year, who die a horrible death , would get some people back in sync with nature.

ask an african if he fears a sniffley nose more then a systemic illness that attacks your brain and your liver .

he'll look at you like your from another planet.

which you are.

planet "weak fragile soft pussy"


Excuse I, Aquascoot, how many influenza deaths were there in 2018?
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