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Baronvorort - Stop start feature
Nov 6^th, 2020 at 9:22pm

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Reply #25 - Nov 3rd, 2020 at 8:24pmQuote Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 3rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:
Baron - Those slide on campers look pretty good.
It would not suit us, but I quite like them.

That 'stop-start' feature is also something I dislike.
It is more suited to the US. Makes the car have a much more complex dearer battery.

How about a Kia Sorento ?

The slide on are ok they have small bathroom.

They're easier to find a parking spot compared to caravan height is the only restriction which might be something to consider when stopping in towns. You could also tow a boat or trailer with motorbikes.

What stop start feature ? i don't understand what you mean by that.

The battery is inside camper stick solar panels on roof make sure charge controller is compatible with battery type.
https://enerdrive.com.au/product-category/products/lithium-batteries/

Ford Ranger would be the go otherwise Hilux.

Hi baron,
the Stop Start feature stops the engine when it is idling at a red light.
When you want to go again, just press the accelerator and the engine coughs into life and you go.

It is more applicable in the US where the red signal are red for a lot longer.
Here is Auss, not really any advantage I think

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Reply #3 - Nov 8^th, 2020 at 8:10am

Not a good idea.

I'm sure it is because of mandatory requirements on fuel consumption in very green Europe.

But your oil pump is not working with the engine off and oil will move down from the head.

And then you will have less oil when you reboot at the top of the engine.

So you will be producing a small amount of premature engine wear.

That suits Mazda, merc and Subaru fine.

Engine dies at 7 years, just after the warranty expires and the consumer buys a new one

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Reply #4 - Nov 8^th, 2020 at 8:40am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2020 at 8:10am:

Not a good idea.

I'm sure it is because of mandatory requirements on fuel consumption in very green Europe.

But your oil pump is not working with the engine off and oil will move down from the head.

And then you will have less oil when you reboot at the top of the engine.

So you will be producing a small amount of premature engine wear.

That suits Mazda, merc and Subaru fine.

Engine dies at 7 years, just after the warranty expires and the consumer buys a new one

I think the technology has improved a bit since the model T.

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Re: Baronvorort - Stop start feature
Reply #6 - Nov 8^th, 2020 at 10:58am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 6^th, 2020 at 9:22pm:

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Hi baron,
the Stop Start feature stops the engine when it is idling at a red light.
When you want to go again, just press the accelerator and the engine coughs into life and you go.

It is more applicable in the US where the red signal are red for a lot longer.
Here is Auss, not really any advantage I think

In the US you're allowed to turn right with red lights.

Not a fan of this it will also turn AC off in summer the compressor is driven by engine.

The water pump also stops which means water temp increases inside engine. I put a Davies Craig electric water pump in SS Torana so water can still circulate after engine is turned off.

Fuel injected cars have fuel cut on deceleration which means when you lift off throttle and coast (throttle position is 0%) it will cut fuel to injectors until engine speed drops below around 1200 rpm so lifting off throttle and coasting to red light saves fuel and brake pad wear if you are still moving when light turns green you use less fuel getting back up to speed.

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Reply #7 - Nov 8^th, 2020 at 2:03pm

freediver wrote on Nov 8^th, 2020 at 8:40am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2020 at 8:10am:

Not a good idea.

I'm sure it is because of mandatory requirements on fuel consumption in very green Europe.

But your oil pump is not working with the engine off and oil will move down from the head.

And then you will have less oil when you reboot at the top of the engine.

So you will be producing a small amount of premature engine wear.

That suits Mazda, merc and Subaru fine.

Engine dies at 7 years, just after the warranty expires and the consumer buys a new one

I think the technology has improved a bit since the model T.

true , fuel injection makes it a lot smoother and they would stop the engine close to TDC to make it ready for a restart.

but it is still mainly done to scam the "official" fuel consumption test.

the 'official " fuel consumption test is done on an urban scenario with a lot of stop/start driving. i think from memory the 45 minute test requires 15 minutes where the vehicle is stopped. cars use very very little fuel at idle, but the small reduction in fuel consumption makes mazda subaru and the germans appear to be delivering a better product

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