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How much CO2 left in the atmosphere.....?
Nov 3rd, 2020 at 11:53am
 
How much CO2 would be left in the atmosphere...???

If all nations were to spend billions of dollars on the stock exchange mitigating manmade CO2 emissions.

Some science first to get in the picture,

Manmade atmospheric CO2 emissions are approximately less than 5% of the natural atmospheric CO2 that degases from oceans and land every year.

The IPCC actually gives a residence time of about 4 years in the 2007 AR4 WG1 report (see page 948) see below,

The IPCC say manmade CO2 emissions are 35GT/yr from fossil fuels and

Natural CO2 emissions are 766GT every year from oceans and land.

Therefore from the total amount of CO2 in our atmosphere today of approximately 410ppm then,

Berry (2016) estimates the following,

392ppm comes from natural degassing of ocean and land every year and

18ppm are due to manmade emissions

410ppm - 18ppm = 392ppm,

So if we got rid of all manmade CO2 in the atmosphere we would be left with 392ppm from 410ppm.

Is it really worth it, to try and get rid of so little for so much.

This little bit doesn't really make any difference in the end.

Do you really want to spend billions of tax payer monies on the stock market

to reduce the small amount of manmade atmospheric CO2

content of which is 18ppm because the rest 392ppm is natural, unless we attack nature herself..?

Think of it this way how much more higher would the temperature be from 392ppm to 410ppm

I don't think that's the sort of mitigation the IPCC is talking about.


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Why human CO2 does not change climate by Edwin Berry, PhD

https://edberry.com/blog/climate/climate-physics/human-co2-not-change-climate/


Below Scientific papers that conclude human emissions cause only a minor change in the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Manmade CO2 emissions do not continually increase the atmospheric CO2 content as the IPCC claims.

The IPCC Bern model about the accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere is wrong, see papers below.

Information based on Berry (2016)

Revelle and Suess (1957)
Star (1992)
Segalstad (1992, 1996, 1998, 2009)
Rorsch, Courtney, & Thoenas (2005)
Courtney (2008)
Siddons & D’Aleo (2007)
MacRae (2008, 2015)
Essenhigh (2009)
Glassman (2010)
Wilde (2012)
Caryl (2013)
Humlum et al. (2013)
Salby (2012, 2015, 2016)
Berry (2016)
Harde (2017)


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"Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an extreme example. Its turnover time is only about four years because of the rapid exchange between the atmosphere and the ocean and terrestrial biota."

IPCC 2007 AR4 WG1 report (see page 948),

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ar4-wg1-annexes-1.pdf
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Reply #1 - Nov 3rd, 2020 at 8:23pm
 
BTW all the lock downs from covid-19 and the slow down of manmade emissions haven't had any impact on the steady rise of CO2.

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Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2020 at 10:28am
 
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Late carboniferous to early Permian time (315 mya – 270 mya) is the only time period in the last 600 million years when both atmospheric CO2 and temperature were as low as they are today (Quaternary Period)


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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2020 at 9:44am
 
With reference to the graph above.

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There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today. For example, during the Jurassic Period (200 mya), average CO2 concentrations were about 1800 ppm or about 4.7 times higher than today. The highest concentrations of CO2 during all of the Paleozoic Era occurred during the Cambrian Period, nearly 7000 ppm -- about 18 times higher than today.

The Carboniferous Period and the Ordovician Period were the only geological periods during the Paleozoic Era when global temperatures were as low as they are today. To the consternation of global warming proponents, the Late Ordovician Period was also an Ice Age while at the same time CO2 concentrations then were nearly 12 times higher than today-- 4400 ppm. According to greenhouse theory, Earth should have been exceedingly hot. Instead, global temperatures were no warmer than today. Clearly, other factors besides atmospheric carbon influence earth temperatures and global warming.

https://geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html



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