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Re: Is a V8 petrol comparable to a V8 diesel for towin
Reply #30 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 1:55pm
 
nah,  youre wrong bojack.

a good old landcruiser HDJ 79 R 6 cyl deisel was unbreakable to 500,000 km if you did the filter changes frequently.

with a modern 4 cylinder turbo desiel  (that is in the ranger, bt50, hilux, navarra, amarok, isuzu and triton )  ie  in nearly every modern 4 wd

you wont get 1/2 that mileage.


the CAT in a hilux needs a burn every 700 km, drive thru water after a burn abd its good night CAT (2000 bucks).

the exhaust recycling ensures the top of the engine is baked with black gunk,

old cars sprayed fuel all over the valves and fuel cleans,
to save a bit of fuel , some now spray direct into the cylinder, so there go your valves.

toyotas have an oil dilution problem.

tritons and navarras gum up.

injectors get fouled.

computer codes come on and you spend 1000's at dealers getting things fixed.

its false economy.
its great for the dealers, they make a fortune fixing crap when the warranty runs out or they scam with things like the tritons 10 year warranty  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes, and then have some 18 yo with acne charging you 900 bucks to do a service  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.


fuel is the least of your worries,

buy the most simple vehicle you can get without all the junk on it.

service it yourself

if it sucks a bit more gas, you will still end up way way in front.




OR

buy a new 4wd
spemnd a fortune fixing the "built in redundancies"
junk it at 180,000 km when the cost becomes overwhelming

get me to tow it to the wreckers for you in my indestructable toyota

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Re: Is a V8 petrol comparable to a V8 diesel for towin
Reply #31 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 1:56pm
 
Given how right you are about well everything, yep I'll still go wit hme.
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Reply #32 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:27pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 5th, 2020 at 1:56pm:
Given how right you are about well everything, yep I'll still go wit hme.


Sprint wants a good experience touring OZ.
I'd advise a low km diesel 6 from Toyota with a good service history, preferably from western nsw or qld where it hasn't been on the beach and has mainly done highway miles.

Us farmers get them sans sales tax and with a deisel fuel rebate.

Such a car , with say 150 k still has 350 k of great motoring and sprint can service it himself.


Or he can spend more than that on an endless money pit, over engineered modern turbo deisel and suffer the indignity of breakdowns
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Reply #33 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
I'd advise a low km diesel 6 from Toyota with a good service history, preferably from western nsw or qld where it hasn't been on the beach and has mainly done highway miles.



When was the last time Toyota didn't have a turbo diesel 6 in Oz. I'd suggest its 20 years at least,
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Reply #34 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:46pm
 
heres one from car sales.


gawd they hold their value.

thats because the market agrees with aquascoot.

a 14 yo car still want 38 k for it.

you buy a new car today and it will be worth nothing in 14 yrs

Toyota Landcruiser HZJ105R 2006 Diesel Wagon, 97,000km. $37,500 with RWC and Registration.
Regretful sale. Fantastic Reliable Vehicle.Second owner, always serviced as per maintenance schedule.
Very good condition, clean car, fully set up for camping, has never done beach work, Country Car, Rides and Runs Well.
Excellent Aircon, Bull Bar, LED Spotlights, Lift Kit, Headers, Dual Fuel Filters and Tanks, Side Steps, Side Awning, Two Rear Drawers and Fridge Slide, Tow Bar and Ball, Dual Optima Batteries, Anderson Plugs Front and Rear also standard Solar Sonnectors at rear, Heavy Duty Clutch, Catch Can Pro with new Filter, K &N Air Filter, running Nulon Semi-Synthetic oil with Ryco SynTec Oil Filter, Genuine Roof Racks, Canvas Custom Front Seat Covers, Spare Key, Desert Dueller Tyres with good tread including the spare, set up with Third 130AH battery in rear with C-Tek battery to battery charger and C-Tek Bluetooth Battery Monitor, Excellent A/C, Bluetooth Stereo with Hands Free and Phone Holder.
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Reply #36 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:49pm
 
No guts to it. This whole modern engines/cars suck thing is tiresome.
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Reply #37 - Nov 5th, 2020 at 3:01pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:49pm:
No guts to it. This whole modern engines/cars suck thing is tiresome.



You have got to be joking.

Modern cars are DESIGNED to last just a bit longer then the warranty and they are DESIGNED to only be serviceable by dealers whose BUSINESS MODEL is based on high costs due to built in complexity.

Even the modern hilux requires a special tool and a change of a factory only washer to change a simple oil filter.

They don't want you doing it .

They suggest a 20000 service interval knowing it will die at 7 years and you have to buy a new one,

Manufacturers seal their transmissions so it is close to impossible to change the fluid and the car is junk at 7 years.

They put plastic parts in engines that they KNOW will crack after a certain number of heating/ cooling cycles and cause a failure.

They want people changing cars like they change phones.

That's why a 2006 land cruiser holds its value and a modern car does not
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Reply #38 - Nov 6th, 2020 at 9:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:46pm:
heres one from car sales.


gawd they hold their value.

thats because the market agrees with aquascoot.

a 14 yo car still want 38 k for it.

you buy a new car today and it will be worth nothing in 14 yrs

Toyota Landcruiser HZJ105R 2006 Diesel Wagon, 97,000km. $37,500 with RWC and Registration.
Regretful sale. Fantastic Reliable Vehicle.Second owner, always serviced as per maintenance schedule.
Very good condition, clean car, fully set up for camping, has never done beach work, Country Car, Rides and Runs Well.
Excellent Aircon, Bull Bar, LED Spotlights, Lift Kit, Headers, Dual Fuel Filters and Tanks, Side Steps, Side Awning, Two Rear Drawers and Fridge Slide, Tow Bar and Ball, Dual Optima Batteries, Anderson Plugs Front and Rear also standard Solar Sonnectors at rear, Heavy Duty Clutch, Catch Can Pro with new Filter, K &N Air Filter, running Nulon Semi-Synthetic oil with Ryco SynTec Oil Filter, Genuine Roof Racks, Canvas Custom Front Seat Covers, Spare Key, Desert Dueller Tyres with good tread including the spare, set up with Third 130AH battery in rear with C-Tek battery to battery charger and C-Tek Bluetooth Battery Monitor, Excellent A/C, Bluetooth Stereo with Hands Free and Phone Holder.


They certainly are one of the better vehicles at holding their price.
I think  this one is a bit optimistic. it does have low kms and has many extras.

it is certainly NOT a good buy

Quote:
......... Private Price Guide      $17,000 - $19,800
*Trade In Price Guide      $12,800 - $15,600
*Average Km      210,000 - 350,000
*Price When New      $52,900*         ..........


https://www.redbook.com.au/cars/details/2006-toyota-landcruiser-standard-manual-...
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Re: Is a V8 petrol comparable to a V8 diesel for towin
Reply #39 - Nov 6th, 2020 at 9:44pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 5th, 2020 at 2:49pm:
No guts to it. This whole modern engines/cars suck thing is tiresome.


Totally

https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/toyota-landcruiser-troopy-fuel-consumption-why-i...

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.............Toyota should bite the bullet and put a Prado engine in the Troopy.........

Then you consider other similar engines in the market.

Hyundai/Kia 2.2 @ 147 kW & 440 Nm I4

Mazda 2.2 @ 140 kW & 450 Nm I4
...........All these four-cylinder engines are doing a V8’s job, notionally...............

........... the single turbo 4.5 V8 is a rubbish engine - like it’s the cheap, nasty version of the 4.5 twin-turbo in the LandCruiser 200 Series          ........
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