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Reply #90 - Nov 2nd, 2020 at 7:17pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 2nd, 2020 at 3:51pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2020 at 10:32am:
No Ajax that would be you.

The MWP and the LIA were not concurrently global—neither period was warm or cool over the whole globe and the LIA was mainly a North Atlantic phenomenon.


You are wasting your time JM

Ajax is a deluded conspiracy theorist
lee is a parasite whose only posts on this forum are to try and discredit other peoples posts. He contributes nothing.


Barny where you been hanging out dude, miss your commentary....... Smiley Wink

Always good to hear from you.... Cheesy
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Reply #91 - Nov 2nd, 2020 at 7:22pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Ajax is a decent guy, will willingly give him some of my time.

Prefer to do that in my board tho Ajax.


JV when you defend the hockey stick you're flogging a dead horse mate.

A bit like FD and the unions.

You choose to stick your head in the sand and listen to the IPCC, we cannot have a conversation when you are trying to defend an organization that many scientists claim is more political than scientific.

I have given you many examples in this thread yet you will not listen. and dismiss it straight away.

Sorry champ but you are following an organisation whose scientific credibility was shot many moons ago.

I'm telling you the grass is green and you're telling me its blue....... Cheesy
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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101
Reply #92 - Nov 3rd, 2020 at 2:19pm
 
How much CO2 would be left in the atmosphere...???

If all nations were to spend billions of dollars on the stock exchange mitigating manmade CO2 emissions.

Some science first to get in the picture,

Manmade atmospheric CO2 emissions are approximately less than 5% of the natural atmospheric CO2 that degases from oceans and land every year.

The IPCC actually gives a residence time of about 4 years in the 2007 AR4 WG1 report (see page 948) see below,

The IPCC say manmade CO2 emissions are 35GT/yr from fossil fuels and

Natural CO2 emissions are 766GT every year from oceans and land.

Therefore from the total amount of CO2 in our atmosphere today of approximately 410ppm then,

Berry (2016) estimates the following,

392ppm comes from natural degassing of ocean and land every year and

18ppm are due to manmade emissions

410ppm - 18ppm = 392ppm,

So if we got rid of all manmade CO2 in the atmosphere we would be left with 392ppm from 410ppm.

Is it really worth it, to try and get rid of so little for so much.

This little bit doesn't really make any difference in the end.

Do you really want to spend billions of tax payer monies on the stock market

to reduce the small amount of manmade atmospheric CO2

content of which is 18ppm because the rest 392ppm is natural, unless we attack nature herself..?

Think of it this way how much more higher would the temperature be from 392ppm to 410ppm

I don't think that's the sort of mitigation the IPCC is talking about.


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Why human CO2 does not change climate by Edwin Berry, PhD

https://edberry.com/blog/climate/climate-physics/human-co2-not-change-climate/


Below Scientific papers that conclude human emissions cause only a minor change in the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Manmade CO2 emissions do not continually increase the atmospheric CO2 content as the IPCC claims.

The IPCC Bern model about the accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere is wrong, see papers below.

Information based on Berry (2016)

Revelle and Suess (1957)
Star (1992)
Segalstad (1992, 1996, 1998, 2009)
Rorsch, Courtney, & Thoenas (2005)
Courtney (2008)
Siddons & D’Aleo (2007)
MacRae (2008, 2015)
Essenhigh (2009)
Glassman (2010)
Wilde (2012)
Caryl (2013)
Humlum et al. (2013)
Salby (2012, 2015, 2016)
Berry (2016)
Harde (2017)


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"Carbon dioxide (CO2) is an extreme example. Its turnover time is only about four years because of the rapid exchange between the atmosphere and the ocean and terrestrial biota."

IPCC 2007 AR4 WG1 report (see page 948),

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ar4-wg1-annexes-1.pdf


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Reply #93 - Nov 3rd, 2020 at 2:32pm
 
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“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
•Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

“The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”
•Dr David Frame, Climate modeler, Oxford University

"It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true."
•Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace

"Unless we announce disasters no one will listen."
•Sir John Houghton, First chairman of IPCC

"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world."
•Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment

Now on to the Club of Rome.


"The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
•Alexander King Co-Founder of the Club of Rome, (premier environmental think-tank and consultants to the United Nations) from his 1991 book The First Global Revolution

"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."
•Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Biology and Global Change. Professor Schneider was among the earliest and most vocal proponents of man-made global warming and a lead author of many IPCC reports. He is a member of the Club of Rome.

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy."
•Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation and member of the Club of Rome.

"Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

"[The Earth Summit will play an important role in] reforming and strengthening the United Nations as the centerpiece of the emerging system of democratic global governance."

"The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security."

•Maurice Strong, Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), Al Gore's mentor and executive member of the Club of Rome.

"I believe it is appropriate to have an 'over-representation' of the facts on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience."
•Al Gore, member of the Club of Rome and set to become the world's first carbon billionaire. He is also the largest shareholder of Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), which looks set to become the world's central carbon trading body.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/a5q2k/the_club_of_romes_world_govern...



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The Global Warming Hoax
In The Words of The Club of Rome


Some of the Club of Rome members are: David Rockefeller, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Mikhail Gorbachev, Kofi Annan, Bill Gates, Ted Turne, Tony Blair, Robert Muller, The Dalai Lama, Hassan bin Talal, Javier Solana, Javier Perez de Cuellar, Gro Harlem Bruntland, Garret Hardin, King Juan Carlos of Spain and his wife Queen Sophia, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Prince Philippe of Belgium, and about 80 other wealthy elites, new age cultists, former and current U.N. figures, and political figures. 

http://real-world-news.org/articles-rwn/warming.html


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Global Leadership for Climate Action is a joint initiative of the United Nations Foundation and the Club of Madrid which “aims to design a framework for a new enforceable international agreement on climate change.”

The GLCA has editorial input into reports and assessments produced by the IPCC and provides “technical expertise on the implications and communication of climate change science.”

By my count more than two-thirds of the GLCA members are also members of the CoR including: George Soros, Ted Turner, Timothy Wirth, Gro Harlem Brundtland, Mary Robinson, Sir Crispin Tickell, Kim Campbell, Wangari Maathai, Petre Roman and Richard Lagos.

Now I have to wonder what qualifies George Soros and Ted Turner to provide technical advice on climate change science!!


Have a look at the network of organisations and their influence on world matters, these PIGS control.....truly scary.........even if you support them....or their ideology like AGW....!!!!

http://recyclewashington.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/unraveling-the-club-of-rome-pa...


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Reply #94 - Nov 3rd, 2020 at 3:10pm
 
WHEN YOU SUPPORT ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING THESE ARE THE PEOPLE AND THEIR VIEWS THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING.

I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN ALARMIST BUT IF THEY HAD THEIR WAY US PLEBS WOULD BE BACK IN THE CAVES..!

BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL APPLY TO THE ELITE, THE OLIGARCHY..........HAVE ANYONE OF THEM LED BY EXAMPLE........?


2052 A GLOBAL FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FORTY YEARS

The club of Rome - the high priests of the Anthropogenic Global Warming Religion (AGW).

If you can't be bothered watching it all, go to the 36 minute mark of the third video from the left and view it for 15 minutes.

Truly scary stuff that we need saving by these PIGS...!!!



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Reply #95 - Nov 15th, 2020 at 3:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2nd, 2020 at 10:23am:
Mann’s hockey stick has been replicated by dozens of other paleoclimate studies. So it has been validated many times over.

The temperature difference between the MWP and LIA on those hand drawn charts is far too big. It was a very few tenths of a degree Celsius difference.

Many hockey sticks:



If you do the same thing and use the same methods the result will be the same.

"Knowledge of climate variability over the last 1 to 2 kyr in the SH and tropics is severely limited by the lack of palaeoclimatic records. In the NH, the situation is better, but there are important limitations due to a lack of tropical records and ocean records. Differing amplitudes and variability observed in available millennial-length NH temperature reconstructions, and the extent to which these differences relate to choice of proxy data and statistical calibration methods, need to be reconciled."


"Lead Authors:

Keith R. Briffa (UK), Jean-Claude Duplessy (France), Fortunat Joos (Switzerland), Valérie Masson-Delmotte (France), Daniel Olago (Kenya), Bette Otto-Bliesner (USA), W. Richard Peltier (Canada), Stefan Rahmstorf (Germany), Rengaswamy Ramesh (India), Dominique Raynaud (France), David Rind (USA), Olga Solomina (Russian Federation), Ricardo Villalba (Argentina), De’er Zhang (China) "

https://archive.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch6.html

Somewhat of  walk back. Wink
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Reply #96 - Nov 15th, 2020 at 6:12pm
 
The Anthro-Android Evolution is beginning.
Will you 'evolve' with the times>?

Being an Aussie Ranga. Ajax really does have a good grasp upon the 'Global' Scene.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #97 - Nov 16th, 2020 at 9:36am
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2020 at 6:12pm:
The Anthro-Android Evolution is beginning.
Will you 'evolve' with the times>?

Being an Aussie Ranga. Ajax really does have a good grasp upon the 'Global' Scene.


Well thanks mate.... Smiley

But the truth is when I was in my late teens early twenties I used to see the people demonstrating at the CHOGM meetings and other etc, against free trade and globalisation and I use to roll my eyes thinking they were idiots. Roll Eyes

Wasn’t interested back then had no time for them, to find out WHY they were protesting. Huh

Now that I’m older and have looked into it, now I understand WHY….!... Shocked

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