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And yet you deny the blatant history of Christianity it the exact same atrocities that it has committed to further it's own conquest of the world. Tsk, tsk.

You conveniently forgot to be honest again snakemouth.

Everybody who has committed an atrocity against mankind has deliberately disobeyed the teachings of Christ, Jesus is the absolute authority on what constitutes Christianity.

Christ warned that many men would give their own commands as the doctrine of Christianity, He specifically stated that He does not recognize these workers of iniquity.

The reason you are dishonest with us is that you are apologizing for and supporting islamic human rights atrocities against the non believers.

Christ also warned that there would be liars who would deliberately lie in order to hate and persecute Christians.

So once again Christians can take heart from the fact that your lies are the living proof of the predictions in the Christian ism.

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Reply #106 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 3:58pm

moses wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 3:52pm:

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And yet you deny the blatant history of Christianity it the exact same atrocities that it has committed to further it's own conquest of the world. Tsk, tsk.

You conveniently forgot to be honest again snakemouth.

Everybody who has committed an atrocity against mankind has deliberately disobeyed the teachings of Christ, Jesus is the absolute authority on what constitutes Christianity.

Who cares, Moses? They didn't disobey what the Churches said Christ said... Roll Eyes

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Reply #107 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 4:12pm

Churches are not the supreme authority on Christianity snakemouth, there are many churches who give their own commands as the doctrine of Christianity.

The ultimate authority on the criteria for Christianity is, the teachings of Christ, nothing else.

If you deviate from the Words Of Christ, you are not a Christian.

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Reply #108 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 4:17pm

Frank wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 1:42pm:

Spelling out what needs to be done. Only Islamists and their enablers could disagree with anything she said.

Declaration of the Rights of Man - 1789
Articles:

10. No one shall be disquieted on account of his opinions, including his religious views, provided their manifestation does not disturb the public order established by law.

11. The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. Every citizen may, accordingly, speak, write, and print with freedom, but shall be responsible for such abuses of this freedom as shall be defined by law.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/rightsof.asp

Frank,

Good find.

Declaration of the Rights of Man - 1789
Approved by the National Assembly of France, August 26, 1789
Articles: 10 & 11

Appropriate to the argument; It is a FALSE PROPOSITION and a LIE, to argue that there is a moral equivalence between ISLAMIC societal/moral values [on the one side],
and JUDEO-CHRISTIAN societal/moral values [on the other side].

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1516682325/54#54

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556492091/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1601281379/6#6

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1565051771/33#33

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Reply #109 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 4:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 3:58pm:

moses wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 3:52pm:

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And yet you deny the blatant history of Christianity it the exact same atrocities that it has committed to further it's own conquest of the world. Tsk, tsk.

You conveniently forgot to be honest again snakemouth.

Everybody who has committed an atrocity against mankind has deliberately disobeyed the teachings of Christ, Jesus is the absolute authority on what constitutes Christianity.

Who cares, Moses? They didn't disobey what the Churches said Christ said... Roll Eyes

What would you like me to call you, Rim-meur?

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Reply #110 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 4:52pm

AUSTRALIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 5: No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 7: All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 16: 2. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

Article 17: 1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

islam is the polar opposite of all of the above articles.

islam specifically teaches its adherents to commit human rights atrocities against the non believer.

islam declares that non muslims are dhimmis who are second class citizens who are to be discriminated against at every level.

islam has child marriage, a child lacks the maturity and intellect to be able to give consent for marriage.

islam denies non muslims the right to own buildings for their non muslim purposes.

islam denies non muslims the right to freedom of thought, religion, beliefs etc. under pain of death.

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Reply #111 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Right wing violence has nothing to do with the vast majority of peaceful right wingers?
Mass shooters have nothing to do with the vast majority of peaceful gun owners?
Violent unionists have nothing to do with the vast majority of peaceful unionists who think the same but do not DO the same?
ETC? Ideology has nothing to do with how you act and speak in the world? as long as you are a Muslim? Really??

You excuse only Islam. Even when they behead people, drive trucks into crowds, rape and intimidate.

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Reply #112 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #113 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

If Brevik and Tarrant can be linked to right wingers and conservatives - then why can't all Muslims be liked to the head-choppers for Allah? They believe the same thing.
As always, you haven't thought about this, Bbwian.

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Reply #115 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 11:08pm

Frank wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

If Brevik and Tarrant can be linked to right wingers and conservatives - then why can't all Muslims be liked to the head-choppers for Allah? They believe the same thing.
As always, you haven't thought about this, Bbwian.

Au contraire, Soren. It is you who has failed to think about this. You refuse to accept responsibility for what Tarrant and Brievik did, despite being from the same side of politics yet you demand that all Muslims must bear responsibility for what Islamists do. Seems a trifle unfair to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk. When you accept responsibility for the likes of Tarrant and Brievik, come to talk to me about Muslims and Islamists... Roll Eyes

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Reply #116 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 6:28am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 11:08pm:

Au contraire, Soren.

It is you who has failed to think about this.

You refuse to accept responsibility for what Tarrant and Brievik did, despite being from the same side of politics yet

you demand that all Muslims must bear responsibility for what Islamists do.

Seems a trifle unfair to me, Soren. Tsk, tsk.

When you accept responsibility for the likes of Tarrant and Brievik, come to talk to me about Muslims and Islamists... Roll Eyes

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15
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You mean that we [infidels, on OzPol] are guilty of 'stereotyping' members of the Australian mainstream moslem community!!!!

Shock horror!!!!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....moslems!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....ISLAM [and with ISLAM's laws and tenets] !

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

WWW search....
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."

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ISLAM does NOT approve any of these Koran verses.

Nothing to do with ISLAM.

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #117 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You are not honest about this. Everyone is aware that there is Islamic jihad, that Muslims kill innocent Westerners for triflings.
Westerners are trying to accommodate Muslims but it is never enough, Muslims demand more and more special treatment in Western countries that take them in. Muslim refugees kill the people who took them in.

I am not aware of any Christian refugees in Muslim countries beheading their Muslim hosts. But it happens the other way round every other day. Yet you try to tell us that it's an even thing with no real difference.

You are not honest. You are simply not genuine. You are lying for some strange reason.
Why are lying?

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Reply #118 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:11pm

Bertie wrote on Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You are not honest about this. Everyone is aware that there is Islamic jihad, that Muslims kill innocent Westerners for triflings.
Westerners are trying to accommodate Muslims but it is never enough, Muslims demand more and more special treatment in Western countries that take them in. Muslim refugees kill the people who took them in.

I am not aware of any Christian refugees in Muslim countries beheading their Muslim hosts. But it happens the other way round every other day. Yet you try to tell us that it's an even thing with no real difference.

You are not honest. You are simply not genuine. You are lying for some strange reason.
Why are lying?

Brian has his own forum nobody goes there so he comes here to troll and feed his internet addiction.

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Reply #119 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:33pm

Bertie wrote on Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:47pm:

Bertie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2020 at 3:40pm:

Every Islamic extremist attack over the past five years has been shocking and disturbing. In France alone, around 250 people have been massacred by radical Islamists since 2015. But there is something especially horrific about the premeditated targeting of a teacher for doing his job – that is, encouraging his pupils to think critically. Parents of his pupils say he was a kind, enthusiastic teacher who always encouraged children to think about issues in depth. Sophie Vénétitay of the SNES-FSU teachers’ union was right to say that he was murdered for doing what good teachers are meant to do – ‘teach critical thought’. This attack targeted one man, but its aim was to terrorise an entire republic; to send a dire, Middle Ages-style warning to public servants that they will put themselves in danger if they dare, in the terrorist’s own words, to ‘belittle Muhammad’.

Again, it is in your own words, "one terrorist". Is it fair to target all Muslims because of what, "one terrorist" has done, Agatha? Really?

Really. What do all Muslims share with that 'one terrorist' of every day? Islam. That common link must be addressed. For you to insist that Islam, that single thing that binds all Islamic terrorists to all other Muslims, is the ONE thing that must not be invertered and dealt with is collaborationist and traitorous.

What does Breivik the Norwegian Terrorist share with all Right Wingers, Agatha? What about Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Belief in Right wing policies. Belief in that Xenophobia works. Should we treat all Right Wingers the same way?

Then we have Christian Terrorists like Mark Anthony Conditt, he liked to blow up churches. Funny that, should all Christians be judged the way he was? Roll Eyes

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You would never say anything remotely similar when looking at violence and political agitation by ANY other group. To your mind, ONLY Muslims can and do separate their ideology from their actions. Everyone else acts in accordance with them, except Muslims. You cannot possibly believe what you are advocating.

Christians often refuse to admit that Christian Terrorists exist. Moses, does. However, the evidence suggests otherwise. Time you realised that everything you accuse Muslims of, Christians have done and continue to do. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You are not honest about this. Everyone is aware that there is Islamic jihad, that Muslims kill innocent Westerners for triflings.

Au contraire, Agatha, I am being far more honest that you and your fellow Islamophobes. I learnt the lessons about persecution that the Holocaust taught, that you choose to ignore - you cannot apply blanket persecution and claim you were provoked into it. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Westerners are trying to accommodate Muslims but it is never enough, Muslims demand more and more special treatment in Western countries that take them in. Muslim refugees kill the people who took them in.

Some do, most don't, Agatha. Until you can work out the differences between an Islamist and a Muslim, it looks like you're pretty well fooked.

Why are lying? Why do you choose to persecute innocent people who have committed no crime? They are just believers in a different religion, nothing more. You have no personal experience of ordinary, everyday, peaceful, moderate, law-abiding Muslims. Agatha you are hardly a judge on them. Run along, now. Go down the nearest Mosque and meet a few... Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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