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Oct 22nd, 2020 at 6:57pm
 

Samuel Paty beheading, in the wake of.....




Here are some of the many, immediate responses
      ....from members of moslem communities resident in Europe [and Tunisia],
to the brutal murder of the French school teacher Samuel Paty......



If you are a person who still insists that the followers of ISLAM [who are living within WESTERN nations] are being maliciously misrepresented and misunderstood.....



For more detail, WWW search these title lines....


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France: Muslim students cheer burning of French flags in response to Muhammad cartoons

Trotskyites: French ‘ruling elite’ is ‘whipping up an atmosphere of anti-Muslim hysteria’ in wake of jihad beheading

Tunisia: MP glorifies the beheading of a French teacher for showing a Muhammad cartoon

Sweden: Muslim migrant politician says criticism of Islam is a ‘dirty crime’ that ‘deserves punishment

Editor of UK Muslim news site 5Pillars: ‘#CharlieHebdo must be shut down immediately by French authorities’

Muslims hail beheading of teacher who showed Muhammad cartoons as heroic: ‘A warning to all critics of Islam’

Islamic scholar: Main crime was not the beheading, but the insults to Muhammad, and ‘we are winning this front’

Turkey: TV host calls on Macron to ‘reexamine’ the freedom of speech and criminalize blasphemy against Islam

Muslim mixed martial arts fighter praises Muslim who beheaded man over Muhammad cartoons as ‘hero of Islam’

France: Islamic preacher issued death fatwa against teacher who was beheaded for showing Muhammad cartoons




or find those title lines here....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/blasphemy



Also....,    some hope.....

WWW search....
France: Interior Minister wants to dissolve ‘anti-Islamophobia’ organization, calls it ‘enemy of the Republic’


Q.
Do you know what a 'flash in the pan' is ?

I hope that it isn't.


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CONSIDER;
These widespread responses to the brutal murder of French school teacher Samuel Paty, display how very 'dedicated', very many of the followers of ISLAM are, to support of their 'pushback' against any criticism of ISLAMIC 'ways'.


THE MESSAGE WHICH IS BEING COMMUNICATED BY THE 'SPOKESMEN' OF MOSLEM COMMUNITIES IN EUROPE, IS THIS;

'ISLAM is correct [i.e. ISLAM is virtuous, we are virtuous.].'

'Everyone else is in error, and/or, an oppressor of ISLAM and its followers.'




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Here is some information which is unrelated to the brutal murder of French school teacher Samuel Paty, in France...

WWW search....
Germany: Police statistics show that murder and manslaughter are mostly committed by asylum seekers


Q.
Why would that circumstance [fact] be so ???


A.
Because in the mosques of Europe, moslems are taught ISLAMIC precepts, from the contents of the Koran.


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you...."
- Koran

"When you meet the unbelievers (in battle), smite their necks until you have crushed them...."
- Koran


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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 9:23am
 
Imagine if the reaction to the the beheading of  Westerner by a Muslim was similar to the reaction to the death of George Floyd.

Peaceful protesters would be burning down mosques and coerce Muslims to renounce Islam on the streets.

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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 11:02am
 
These cartoons are a good idea, because Muslims have been hoodwinked so long, that finally having to face the truth is the first step in their freedom from these Gestapo-like mullahs and imams who have been brain-washing Muslims for far too long (1374 yrs)...

Maybe now Muslims will get the idea, that not only was Muhammad not a prophet, but he wasn't even a good human being. Muhammad raped, plundered and murdered, and he married a 6 yr old girl when he was in his 50's. He had everyone killed who disagreed with him. Muslims remain in denial about this guy....  He admitted twice in the Qur'an that he could do no miracles to show any divinity.  And Muhammad made no real prophecy.  In all the Qur'an Muhammad made only one (1) vague guess about the Romans winning some future battle; no time or place given.  That's it! One guess.  The real sad part is that Muslims are willing to, and gullible enough to bet their salvation on this guy.


Islam does not mean "Peace".   It means "Submission"!

Nobody is allowed to disagree with Islam... All MUST submit!



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The trouble is, there will always be radical muslims hiding in the so-called moderate muslim community in Western nations

The French didn't learn from the first attack on Charlie Hebdo. One day they might wake up






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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 12:36pm
 
Your language betrays your Islamophobia.  "The so-called moderate population".  Really?  They are overwhelmingly moderate.  The number of Islamists can be counted on one hand in comparison to the majority of mainstream Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 2:08pm
 
Men arrested as part of investigation into child sexual exploitation in Bolton

16:18 19/10/2020

Twenty-one men have been arrested as part of investigation into child sexual exploitation in Bolton.

Last week (Thursday 15 October 2020) officers from GMP's Bolton division attended addresses in Bolton, Bury and Chorley where five men aged between 19 and 20 were arrested on suspicion of engaging in sexual activity with a female Child.

These arrests follow further action taken the previous week on Tuesday 6 October where eight men were taken to custody, also on suspicion of offences ranging from rape of a female child and engaging in sexual activity with a female child.

Eight arrests had already been made prior to this in relation to the operation - launched in June 2018 following reports of offences committed against teenage girls.

All 21 men - aged between 18 and 58 - have been released on bail with conditions.
https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2020/october/men-arr...

They are other evils, beside beheading.  This has been going on for years across the UK and Europe. Why are Muslim men targeting white and sikh girls. Is this not systemic racism by Muslims?
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Reply #5 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 2:17pm
 
A gang of over 50 Muslims was uncovered in Scotland in january.


2018

Grooming gangs abused more than 700 women and girls around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims
'Sexual exploitation is happening in towns and cities across the country,' serious case review warns
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-uk-britain-newcastle-...


2016

It’s not only Germany that covers up mass sex attacks by migrant men... Sweden’s record is shameful
Stockholm police were warned not to give descriptions of the perpetrators lest they were accused of being racist





Crying islamophobia' is cowardly and immoral.


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Reply #6 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 2:38pm
 
What is wrong with the sick leftards who apologize for islam all the time?

islamic terrorism is a global problem, why?

muslims are slaughtering non muslims globally, some places it is actually genocide muslims are carrying out, why?

muslim refugees are a global crime problem, why?

The answer is, the qur'an urges them to carry out their human rights atrocities, as a sacred duty of muslims against the non believers.

islam is a death cult, pure and simple.

While ever the qur'an exists in its' present form, the world will always experience islamic terrorism, rape, torture and mass slaughter, of the non believers by muslims.

The one and only answer to this problem is to tell the truth about islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an, guns bombs and bullets are not the answer to the never ending islamic human rights atrocities.

The *moderates* know this is the only answer, but they refuse to be truthful as this will destroy islam in the process.

The lunatic leftards know this as well, so they in turn also refuse to be truthful about islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an.

Both of them prefer the status quo of islamic terrorism, rape, torture and mass slaughter, over telling the truth which while destroying the islamic human rights atrocities, will destroy islam at the exact same time.

How long before we decide to be truthful about islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an?
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Reply #7 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 2:56pm
 
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Islamophobia writ large.  Tsk, tsk, didn't we learn anything from the antics of Tail Gunner Joe?  You cannot attack an entire type of people 'cause you will invariably attack the very people who support your views.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:20pm
 
Could you tell us where are the muslims, who are calling for the qur'an to be changed, in order to stop the global problem we face with fundamentalist muslims?

Or are you just lying again?
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Reply #9 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:26pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:20pm:
Could you tell us where are the muslims, who are calling for the qur'an to be changed, in order to stop the global problem we face with fundamentalist muslims?

Or are you just lying again?


Nope.  They, like Christians just reinterpret what their prophet(s) said, Moses.  You completely ignore half of the Bible when it suits you.  You know, the "Old Testament" that driving force of so many Christian Terrorists?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, caught out again, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:26pm:
moses wrote on Oct 24th, 2020 at 3:20pm:
Could you tell us where are the muslims, who are calling for the qur'an to be changed, in order to stop the global problem we face with fundamentalist muslims?

Or are you just lying again?


Nope.  They, like Christians just reinterpret what their prophet(s) said, Moses.  You completely ignore half of the Bible when it suits you.  You know, the "Old Testament" that driving force of so many Christian Terrorists?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, caught out again, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have never seen a reinterpretation of the Koran, probably because, being eternal and unchangeable, no believing Muslim would ever think of updating it.
The Bible, not having such restrictions, spawns reformations every other day.

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Reply #12 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 5:23pm
 
The way things are in October, 2020.

Islam and the West: We must strike back or soon we’ll all be Samuel Paty
HENRY ERGAS

22      OCTOBER 2020
Samuel Paty, the French schoolteacher decapitated last Friday for showing his students a caricature of the Prophet Mohammed, did not lose his life in a clash of civilisations; he lost it in a clash between civilisation and barbarism.
And five years after the attacks on Charlie Hebdo and on the ¬Hypercacher supermarket, it is barbarism, not civilisation, that is steadily gaining ground.
To say that is not to underestimate the damage al-Qaeda and ISIS have suffered in recent years. Nor is it to ignore French President Emmanuel Macron’s firm -reaction to the latest outrage.
“Now,” he said the other day, “fear will change sides: it is the terrorists who will no longer sleep well at night.”
But even the steeliest resolve cannot disguise the fact that Islamic fundamentalism, which provides the seedbed from which the terrorists sprang, is even more deeply entrenched in the West today than it was in 2015.
Nowhere are the trends clearer than in France itself. As Bernard Rougier — an eminent scholar of Islamic society who heads the Sorbonne’s Centre for Arab and Oriental Studies — shows in a book published earlier this year, “the territories conquered by Islamism” in France and its near neighbours have expanded steadily, while Islamism’s stranglehold over those territories has become stronger and more unshakeable.
Rougier does not present the Islamists as a monolithic bloc; rather, he highlights their diversity, as well as the intense rivalry between them. And he also shows that instead of weakening them, competition has made the Islamists stronger, eliminating the poorer performers and forcing the stronger to innovate constantly.
But while they compete ruthlessly, the Islamists share a common goal: to create, in the areas they control, “total societies” in which every contact between individual Muslims and the social world confirms their sense of apartness, heightens their perception of being besieged by an “impure” West and intensifies their commitment to the Islamist cause.
At the same time, by imposing a suffocating conformism, the Islamists seek — almost always successfully — to drive non-Muslims out of those areas, narrowing the cultural influences to which their inhabitants are exposed and creating an echo chamber in which Islamist rhetoric is constantly ¬reaffirmed and magnified.
A portrait of French teacher Samuel Paty is projected onto the facade of the Hotel de Region in Montpellier this week. Picture: AFP
Macron has described the Islamists’ program as a form of separatism. But their objective is not to secede from the West; it is to destroy it and build a House of Islam on its smouldering remains.
Few things are more important to them, in the pursuit of that goal, than undermining the education system’s capacity to promote the values of freedom of thought and of expression.
The extent of their efforts has been chillingly highlighted by Jean-Pierre Obin, an enormously influential former Inspector-¬General of National Education, in a book that appeared merely weeks before Paty’s murder.
A lifelong man of the left who spent his youth helping the newly independent Algeria to rebuild, Obin is hardly a supporter of Marine Le Pen. But as he demonstrates in compelling detail, the Islamists and their fellow travellers have launched attack after attack on the school teachers who defend the “liberty, equality and fraternity” that have always been his lodestar. And instead of abating since 2015, the scale and virulence of those attacks has increased.
The crucial factor is that the Islamists have learned to imitate the tactics pioneered by #metoo and Black Lives Matter. Previously, their campaigns focused on generic issues, such as the ban on headscarfs. Now, helped by front organisations — such as the Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) — they target individual teachers, especially those who are Jewish, launching massive campaigns of demonisation on social media.
The CCIF-supported campaign that precipitated Paty’s murder should therefore have come as no surprise; nor should it be surprising that in the wake of that atrocity, so many teachers have disclosed instances in which they, too, felt threatened.
The effects Obin documents of the systematic intimidation are stark: over half the state school teachers in predominantly Muslim areas regularly self-censor the curriculum, glossing over the required topics — such as the Holocaust, the conflict in the Middle East, the right to freedom of religion and of expression and the importance of equality between the sexes — which most frequently trigger noisy protests by Muslim students and carefully ¬orchestrated allegations of Islamophobia from their parents.
Meanwhile, in the rapidly growing Islamic schools — which, as a condition of their generous taxpayer funding, should be following the national curriculum — teaching of those topics is often distorted beyond recognition.
The results are apparent in a large-scale survey, conducted three months ago, of France’s young Muslims, which found that nearly half regard upholding Islamic values as more important than preserving freedom of religion, thought and expression. And with more than a quarter refusing to condemn the 2015 terror attacks, the prospects for a peaceful future seem all too bleak.
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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 5:26pm
 
No one believes these problems lend themselves to easy solutions. What is clear, however, is that the standard response of governments, including our own — which involves reaching out to ¬Islamic leaders after each terror attack, while vastly increasing spending on community programs in areas with significant Muslim populations — is deeply counterproductive.
Rougier’s findings confirm the conclusions of French socialist Malek Boutih’s official report on the 2015 terrorist attacks: rather than undermine the Islamists’ position, the torrents of poorly monitored public funding have gifted them a host of readily captured revenue sources, thus boosting their organisational capabilities.
As for the prominence governments accord to religious leaders, it has entrenched Islam’s role as the community’s point of reference, making it even easier and more rewarding for disciplined Islamists to displace their generally ineffectual moderate rivals.
With the grim reality of last Friday’s murder sinking in, Macron appears to have recognised these policy failures, relying instead on tough-minded deterrence as the primary response. Claiming there will be no more “trembling hands”, his government seems set to ban the Anti-¬Islamophobia Collective, along with up to 50 other Islamic organisations and “charities”, close several mosques (including one whose iman welcomed the beheading of “a blasphemer”), deport a host of Islamists and strictly monitor Islamic schools.
What will come of those commitments remains to be seen. But we, too, need to reconsider our approach before more grisly attacks soil our streets. After all, from Sydney’s Lakemba to Melbourne’s Broadmeadows, the Islamists are quietly building up positions every bit as impregnable as those they now hold in Paris’s Aubervilliers and Brussels’ Molenbeek.
Faced with that threat, the Peter Pan strategy — close your eyes and wish really hard — promises one thing and one thing only: tomorrow, we will all be Samuel Paty.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/islam-and-the-west-we-must-strike-ba...

Ergas is always worth reading.

Henry Ergas AO is an economist who spent many years at the OECD in Paris before returning to Australia. He has taught at a number of universities, including Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the University of Auckland and the École Nationale de la Statistique et de l'Administration Économique in Paris, served as Inaugural Professor of Infrastructure Economics at the University of Wollongong and worked as an adviser to companies and governments.
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Reply #14 - Oct 24th, 2020 at 7:06pm
 
It's not enough to go lay some flowers and light some candles, BAN THEM, shut them down.

Macron seems to be catching on.

Australian politicians bring these people in by the hundreds of thousands, they are festering and multiplying.

"We will decide who comes here and the circumstances under which they come"  we meaning the politicians who answer to political correctness.


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