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NSW Lib Premier hit below the waterline
Oct 16th, 2020 at 1:18am
 
Jeez - Janet Albrechtsen is tweeting potshots at Gladys now.... the writing is on the wall.

The party will play it as a plus+plus for Gladys and then later, when it has quietened down, retire her quietly.... to spend more time with her family, perhaps?

So many are saying how wonderful she is - she stuffed the train platforms and sold off the rails while Minister for Transport, and she has followed the party line of selling off everything at the expense of the common people and organising multi-billion dollar contracts to offshore providers instead of local labour/industry in situations where there is zero possibility of a mutual exchange of contracts, thus removing at a stroke billions from Australians without possibility of return - while she rides far above such considerations as having to pay privatised tolls or pay handsomely to ride a privatised train and will retire on a huge income for life for being a total stuff-up.....

Time To Leave!  I sense a Constance in the wings waiting for his cue....

WHY is this not upfront for everyone - in General perhaps?  Such a disaster impacts on the nation as a whole, surely??

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Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 8:16am
 
Whichever way it is "sliced", it is not a good look when the Premier was in a "close personal relationship" with a man who (1) was a Minister in the Government she led, and (2) has made certain - what might be termed "damning" - admissions under affirmation at an ICAC inquiry.

As you point out, if the Conservative media is gunning for her, that's a doubly bad look.

You'd want to hope that -  post the Obeid saga -  Labor's closet has been fully and appropriately emptied of skeletons, if they're to take the moral high ground.

Above all else, though, it's confirmation of the need for robust ICACs in all jurisdictions.

Makes one wonder why, then, the Federal LNP are trying to establish the farcical "NIC", instead of a proper ICAC.
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:06am
 
Speaking of "waterline" ...

Sing-a-long time!





Dire Straits – Down To The Waterline

Sweet surrender on the quayside
You remember we used to run and hide
In the shadow of the cargoes I take you one time
And we're counting all the numbers down to the waterline

Near misses on the dog leap stairways
French kisses in the darkened doorways
A foghorn blowing out wild and cold
A policeman shines a light upon my shoulder

Up comes a coaster fast and silent in the night
Over my shoulder all you can see are the pilot lights
No money in our jackets and our jeans are torn
Your hands are cold but your lips are warm

She can see him on the jetty where they used to go
She can feel him in the places where the sailors go
When she's walking by the river and the railway line
She can still hear him whisper
Let's go down to the waterline
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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:12am
 
Leave Gladys alone, she was conned by a conman!  Happens to a lot of females.  He could have been her "soul mate" (so she thought).  Who knows? I feel sorry for her.
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Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 10:51am
 
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:12am:
Leave Gladys alone, she was conned by a conman!  Happens to a lot of females.  He could have been her "soul mate" (so she thought).  Who knows? I feel sorry for her.



Gladys is the Premier of NSW and as such has a responsibility to the people. Poor choices in her personal life does not men she can get away with abusing her public position, which is looking more and more likely as evidence comes before  ICAC.

I did not mind Gladys as Premier, even though I disagreed with many government decisions.  But now it seems she must go.   
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Reply #5 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 10:59am
 
When I look at the hopeful leadership contenders waiting in the wings, I hope she weathers the storm.
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Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 11:15am
 
Belgarion wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 10:51am:
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:12am:
Leave Gladys alone, she was conned by a conman!  Happens to a lot of females.  He could have been her "soul mate" (so she thought).  Who knows? I feel sorry for her.



Gladys is the Premier of NSW and as such has a responsibility to the people. Poor choices in her personal life does not men she can get away with abusing her public position, which is looking more and more likely as evidence comes before  ICAC.

I did not mind Gladys as Premier, even though I disagreed with many government decisions.  But now it seems she must go.   


Yes, I know.  I just feel sorry for the poor woman.  He could have been her "first love" or something. Yikes!  Shocked  Otherwise she has been a good Premier I guess. I don't follow what goes on in Sydney. Wink
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Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 12:12pm
 
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 11:15am:
Belgarion wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 10:51am:
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:12am:
Leave Gladys alone, she was conned by a conman!  Happens to a lot of females.  He could have been her "soul mate" (so she thought).  Who knows? I feel sorry for her.



Gladys is the Premier of NSW and as such has a responsibility to the people. Poor choices in her personal life does not men she can get away with abusing her public position, which is looking more and more likely as evidence comes before  ICAC.

I did not mind Gladys as Premier, even though I disagreed with many government decisions.  But now it seems she must go.   


Yes, I know.  I just feel sorry for the poor woman.  He could have been her "first love" or something. Yikes!  Shocked  Otherwise she has been a good Premier I guess. I don't follow what goes on in Sydney. Wink


Poor old Gladys. The problem is she's really really uggs. Now that usually isn't a problem as there is someone for everyone, but she's uggs, and intelligent and in a position of power so she won't settle for some equally uggs guy who works at the Reject Shop.

I reckon here dance card was never very full so when a bloke in a reasonably similar position to her paid her some attention, she took it.
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Reply #8 - Oct 16th, 2020 at 1:16pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 12:12pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 11:15am:
Belgarion wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 10:51am:
Neferti wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 9:12am:
Leave Gladys alone, she was conned by a conman!  Happens to a lot of females.  He could have been her "soul mate" (so she thought).  Who knows? I feel sorry for her.



Gladys is the Premier of NSW and as such has a responsibility to the people. Poor choices in her personal life does not men she can get away with abusing her public position, which is looking more and more likely as evidence comes before  ICAC.

I did not mind Gladys as Premier, even though I disagreed with many government decisions.  But now it seems she must go.   


Yes, I know.  I just feel sorry for the poor woman.  He could have been her "first love" or something. Yikes!  Shocked  Otherwise she has been a good Premier I guess. I don't follow what goes on in Sydney. Wink


Poor old Gladys. The problem is she's really really uggs. Now that usually isn't a problem as there is someone for everyone, but she's uggs, and intelligent and in a position of power so she won't settle for some equally uggs guy who works at the Reject Shop.

I reckon here dance card was never very full so when a bloke in a reasonably similar position to her paid her some attention, she took it.



... hook, line and sinker...... doesn't speak well to the balance of the person in the hot seat though - but, of course, historically and hysterically she's not alone there on all political sides .... I reckon she could have done better .... a nice disposition will overcome a native lack of perceived beauty..... and all she needed was the confidence to look around a bit and be more accepting of the 'lesser' (and better) types.....
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Reply #9 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 9:56am
 
You should all beware of perpetuating the myth of female lack of personal responsibility. 

As Janet Albrechtsen said, on the one hand it makes of women the children that many of them are in reality and removes their personal sovereignty, and thus their 'right' to function as fully participating members of society.   Until they are made fully responsible for their own actions instead of being treated like children, they will always remain second class.

On the other hand, it perpetuates the myth that men are responsible for every wrong, and thus are open to attack on any field at any time - in this day and age, most sinisterly in the West - on the grounds that they MIGHT be guilty of something in the future, or - even worse - that they must have been guilty of it at some time in the past so there is no reason to not attack them when they have done nothing now.

i.e. - Men Evil/Women Angels - one of the myths that is surely but slowly destroying the West as we knew it.... and causing shattered families, destroyed family economies, kids on the rampage, poverty on the major scale for the many, and many deaths and injuries.

Stop The War On Men!

Gladys is just as responsible for their actions as Maguire is.... get used to it.... and the fact that she continued with the "on/off relationship" for two years after he was in deep do-do is indicative of a mind either guilty or incapable of handling the truth and establishing her priorities.

I sympathise with her to some extent and feel she may well be a nice person, but she IS a political animal and thus sociopathic in behaviour - and as Gordon said long ago - she is not a fifteen year old school girl.... she is the State Premier, and her judgement here is savagely in question. 

You don't say that a surgical stuff-up is just a thing for some lady surgeon, chuck her cheeks and so, oh, well - "your (male) teachers didn't do well enough for you", do you?

Gladys will not stand down, since to do so would be to admit guilt... and her party would die a million deaths (or cause a million deaths) before admitting such a thing... but I predict she will weather this with a little tarnish, will be polished up and spruiked anew to a gullible public, and an adequate period of time will be allowed to elapse, before being quietly retired to take up with 'that person' Maguire again.

Catch me if you can ..........
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Reply #10 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 10:34am
 
So much going on in this wonderful cartoon:

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Reply #11 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 10:38am
 
sadly women are the first to condemn a women for being a well....... women wanting a man in their life even if they are unworthy....she didnt even tell her family about him.....what does that tell you???....

at the end of the day she looks a fool....and she knows it....he is more than despicable  as he doesnt seem in the least embarrassed by all this.....hes probably writing his book as we chat.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

of course she should have  backed away a long time ago.. but women forgive.. remember?.. we tend to believe their lies.....I will never do it again..

is a good one.. Roll Eyes

sadly this saga has turned into a gladys saga   when hes the one that should be in the headlines.. Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #12 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 11:25am
 
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2020 at 10:38am:
she didnt even tell her family about him.....what does that tell you???....



That tell me she didn't want her family to know she was in a relationship with a guy who wasn't Armenian


They are a pretty close knit group and pride themselves in being Armenian, and they send money back to the poor in Armenia via their organized unions and parties


Organisations

All traditional Armenian diaspora parties have established in the country:

    Social Democratic Hunchakian Party[4]
    Armenian Democratic Liberal Party
    Armenian Revolutionary Federation

There are also many associated political groupings like:

    Armenian Youth Federation of Australia[5]
    Armenian National Committee of Australia[6]

Other operating social and cultural organisations within the Armenian Australian community:

    Armenian General Benevolent Union
    Hamazkayin Regional Committee breaking down into sub-divisions/committees.[7][8]
    SBS Armenian Radio[9]
    Armenian Chamber of Commerce in Australia[10]



Today the Australo-Armenian community includes members born in up to and over 43 different countries. The main concentration of Armenians in Sydney are in the City of Ryde (12,000 - 15,000) followed by City of Willoughby[3] and City of Warringah. Smaller communities exist in Adelaide, Brisbane, and Perth.

Interestingly, Australians of Armenian descent are recognized for their success in Banking, Financing, Law and Business.


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Reply #13 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 3:35pm
 
Mix_Master wrote on Oct 16th, 2020 at 8:16am:
Whichever way it is "sliced", it is not a good look when the Premier was in a "close personal relationship" with a man who (1) was a Minister in the Government she led, and (2) has made certain - what might be termed "damning" - admissions under affirmation at an ICAC inquiry.

As you point out, if the Conservative media is gunning for her, that's a doubly bad look.

You'd want to hope that -  post the Obeid saga -  Labor's closet has been fully and appropriately emptied of skeletons, if they're to take the moral high ground.

Above all else, though, it's confirmation of the need for robust ICACs in all jurisdictions.

Makes one wonder why, then, the Federal LNP are trying to establish the farcical "NIC", instead of a proper ICAC.



The thing is - regardless of her personal feelings about her totally honest approach to Maguire's issues - she knew enough to say she didn't need to know any more - which clearly indicates she knew enough to know better.

TECHNICALLY she may say she knew nothing.. NOTHING! ... but the reality is she knew the background enough to know it was suspect.

Her proper course of action should have been to say:-

"We really DO need to talk about all this, and preferably with someone independent along to give sound advice.  Just my KNOWING of your activities which may be suspect is cause for serious caution and concern."

Instead she swept it under the carpet while perhaps honestly feeling that she was doing nothing wrong by simply not hearing every detail of what she had to know was a suspect deal, and hid it for over two years.

This does not speak well of anyone who would do that, regardless of their feelings of personal integrity... more properly read 'calculated confusion'.

See my blurb below.... that might clarify it for you if you're a bit slow off the mark...
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Reply #14 - Oct 18th, 2020 at 6:29pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 17th, 2020 at 9:56am:
You should all beware of perpetuating the myth of female lack of personal responsibility. 

As Janet Albrechtsen said, on the one hand it makes of women the children that many of them are in reality and removes their personal sovereignty, and thus their 'right' to function as fully participating members of society.   Until they are made fully responsible for their own actions instead of being treated like children, they will always remain second class.

On the other hand, it perpetuates the myth that men are responsible for every wrong, and thus are open to attack on any field at any time - in this day and age, most sinisterly in the West - on the grounds that they MIGHT be guilty of something in the future, or - even worse - that they must have been guilty of it at some time in the past so there is no reason to not attack them when they have done nothing now.

i.e. - Men Evil/Women Angels - one of the myths that is surely but slowly destroying the West as we knew it.... and causing shattered families, destroyed family economies, kids on the rampage, poverty on the major scale for the many, and many deaths and injuries.

Stop The War On Men!

Gladys is just as responsible for her actions as Maguire is.... get used to it.... and the fact that she continued with the "on/off relationship" for two years after he was in deep do-do is indicative of a mind either guilty or incapable of handling the truth and establishing her priorities.

I sympathise with her to some extent and feel she may well be a nice person, but she IS a political animal and thus sociopathic in behaviour - and as Gordon said long ago - she is not a fifteen year old school girl.... she is the State Premier, and her judgement here is savagely in question. 

You don't say that a surgical stuff-up is just a thing for some lady surgeon, chuck her cheeks and so, oh, well - "your (male) teachers didn't do well enough for you", do you?

Gladys will not stand down, since to do so would be to admit guilt... and her party would die a million deaths (or cause a million deaths) before admitting such a thing... but I predict she will weather this with a little tarnish, will be polished up and spruiked anew to a gullible public, and an adequate period of time will be allowed to elapse, before being quietly retired to take up with 'that person' Maguire again.

Catch me if you can ..........

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