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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: scab Reply #120 - Oct 22^nd, 2020 at 7:03pm freediver wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2020 at 7:02pm: If you are pretending to be an idiot, you are doing a very good job. I have never pretended to be you FD.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53061 At my desk.	Re: scab Reply #121 - Oct 22^nd, 2020 at 9:27pm So why all the fuss about getting me to explain the bleeding obvious?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53061 At my desk.	Re: scab Reply #122 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:00am Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?
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Reply #123 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:45am

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:00am:

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

the only facts you've presented so far are off your ever increasing stupidity.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53061 At my desk.	Re: scab Reply #124 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:47am I see I was setting the bar too high when I suggested we consider the matter on principle.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: scab Reply #125 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:53am freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:47am: I see I was setting the bar too high when I suggested we consider the matter on principle. By making up lies?
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90219 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: scab Reply #126 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 11:49pm No bar should ever be more than two feet high so you can still grasp your drink even when lying on the floor.... you do meet a better class of low-life down there, though....
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Reply #127 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:10am

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:00am:

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

Your matter of principle is an outright lie.

More jobs mean more members, more members = more membership dues.

Unemployed people don't pay Union dues.

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Reply #128 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:16am

And the odd angry shot arose from the mob of employees.
"Pay me and I'll all get you a pay rise!"

They paid him each a small slice of their cake and he did indeed get them a pay rise (by gunpoint and some hired help) by the Employer (now shaken) - very small rise for starters. Wouldn't want to solve the problem in one go. Union Man gotta keep getting paid by his fellow workers - though he spends more time just talkin the workers up to go on strike and not work too.

In the end, the Workers had a great work environment, conditions and pay. The Union guy had saved them.

The following week the Factory shut down. The employer went broke. Everyone was unemployed again. The Union Rep ran away with their money.

...in South America. Many 'workers' own their Companies and Businesses, with CEO's and Managers hired by the Workers. No need for Union Reps. They stay employed, they have a job-roof over their heads and they can sack a CEO/Manager/etc any time.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #129 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:57am

Jasin wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:16am:

And the odd angry shot arose from the mob of employees.
"Pay me and I'll all get you a pay rise!"

They paid him each a small slice of their cake and he did indeed get them a pay rise (by gunpoint and some hired help) by the Employer (now shaken) - very small rise for starters. Wouldn't want to solve the problem in one go. Union Man gotta keep getting paid by his fellow workers - though he spends more time just talkin the workers up to go on strike and not work too.

In the end, the Workers had a great work environment, conditions and pay. The Union guy had saved them.

The following week the Factory shut down. The employer went broke. Everyone was unemployed again. The Union Rep ran away with their money.

...in South America. Many 'workers' own their Companies and Businesses, with CEO's and Managers hired by the Workers. No need for Union Reps. They stay employed, they have a job-roof over their heads and they can sack a CEO/Manager/etc any time.

What a load of bs.

And your STh American example is that of a Cooperative .... which have been around forever...

Even they go broke when they are mismanaged or there is disharmony amoungst the members who want more.

It doesn't alter the fact that you take what has been hard won by others and don't contribute....

That's a scab.

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Reply #130 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:32pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:10am:

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:00am:

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

Your matter of principle is an outright lie.

More jobs mean more members, more members = more membership dues.

Unemployed people don't pay Union dues.

Do all unionists struggle with the concept of a principle?

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Reply #131 - Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:20am

Can any of the unionists here give a straight answer to this?

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

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Reply #132 - Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:30am

freediver wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 6:10am:

freediver wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 8:00am:

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

Your matter of principle is an outright lie.

More jobs mean more members, more members = more membership dues.

Unemployed people don't pay Union dues.

Do all unionists struggle with the concept of a principle?

You don't have any principles.

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Reply #133 - Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:32am

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:20am:

Can any of the unionists here give a straight answer to this?

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

It's not a fact. Simple as that.

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Reply #134 - Nov 12^th, 2020 at 8:02am

Gnads wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:32am:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 8:20am:

Can any of the unionists here give a straight answer to this?

Let's put aside for the moment the fact that unions increase unemployment and consider this on a matter of principle. If you do someone a favour that they did not ask for, and they do not want to hand over their money in return or obey your insane edicts, do you think you have the right to force them to?

It's not a fact. Simple as that.

It is a fact that you are afraid to answer the question.

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