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Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2020 at 10:54pm
 
I'm pretty sure there would have been an auto mode to start those huge motors rather than a bloke run all over the place, it was good to see it in the manual mode though.

Ship engines get that big that the grease monkeys actually get inside them.
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Reply #16 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 10:40am
 
I've been toying with the idea of getting one of these, just to "stick it in the shed", and start it once in awhile.

I just need to:

1) Build a shed large enough to house it and,

2) Commercialise the arrangement, so I can hook it to the local grid, and power our town in the event of a power outage Wink

The engine is the The Wärtsilä RT-flex96C, "a two-stroke turbocharged low-speed diesel engine designed by the Finnish manufacturer Wärtsilä. It is designed for large container ships that run on heavy fuel oil. Its largest 14-cylinder version is 13.5 metres (44 ft) high, 26.59 m (87 ft) long, weighs over 2,300 tons"
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Reply #17 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 11:10am
 
Now, THIS is a ship engine!!



One of two reciprocating four-cylinder, triple-expansion steam engines used on the Titanic and her 2 sister ships, they drove the 2 outside 'wing' propellers.

63 feet long, 30 feet high, 720 tons (plus an extra 195 tons for the engine bedplates).

The propeller shaft extended from the left side of the engine shown in the animation.
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Reply #18 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 7:23pm
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 11:10am:
Now, THIS is a ship engine!!



One of two reciprocating four-cylinder, triple-expansion steam engines used on the Titanic and her 2 sister ships, they drove the 2 outside 'wing' propellers.

63 feet long, 30 feet high, 720 tons (plus an extra 195 tons for the engine bedplates).

The propeller shaft extended from the left side of the engine shown in the animation.



What is a ' triple-expansion steam engine ' ?
Seems it has square cylinders?
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Reply #19 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 7:29pm
 
I'm pretty vague on this, thought ship engine ran on heavy diesel fuel.

One of the posts mentioned ' ........  Heavy Fuel Oil ....... '



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...............  Heavy Fuel Oil (HFO) is a category of fuel oils of a tar-like consistency identified as a "worse case substance".[This quote needs a citation]
Also known as bunker fuel, or residual fuel oil, HFO is the result or remnant from the distillation and cracking process of crude oil.
For this reason, HFO is contaminated with several different compounds including aromatics, sulfur and nitrogen, making emission upon combustion more polluting compared to other fuel oils.[1]
HFO is predominantly used as a fuel source for marine vessel propulsion due to its relatively low cost compared to cleaner fuel sources such as distillates.[2][3]
The use and carriage of HFO on-board vessels presents several environmental concerns, namely the risk of oil spill and the emission of toxic compounds and particulates including black carbon.
Presently, the use of HFOs is banned as a fuel source for ships travelling in the Antarctic as part of the International Maritime Organization's (IMO) International Code for Ships Operating in Polar Waters (Polar Code).[4]
For similar reasons, an HFO ban in Arctic waters is currently underway as IMO committed to the prohibition of the use or carriage of HFO within the next several years.      ...................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_fuel_oil
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Reply #20 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 8:16pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 7:29pm:
I'm pretty vague on this, thought ship engine ran on heavy diesel fuel.

One of the posts mentioned ' ........  Heavy Fuel Oil ....... '



Quote:
...............  Heavy Fuel Oil (HFO) is a category of fuel oils of a tar-like consistency identified as a "worse case substance".[This quote needs a citation]
Also known as bunker fuel, or residual fuel oil, HFO is the result or remnant from the distillation and cracking process of crude oil.
For this reason, HFO is contaminated with several different compounds including aromatics, sulfur and nitrogen, making emission upon combustion more polluting compared to other fuel oils.[1]
HFO is predominantly used as a fuel source for marine vessel propulsion due to its relatively low cost compared to cleaner fuel sources such as distillates.[2][3]
The use and carriage of HFO on-board vessels presents several environmental concerns, namely the risk of oil spill and the emission of toxic compounds and particulates including black carbon.
Presently, the use of HFOs is banned as a fuel source for ships travelling in the Antarctic as part of the International Maritime Organization's (IMO) International Code for Ships Operating in Polar Waters (Polar Code).[4]
For similar reasons, an HFO ban in Arctic waters is currently underway as IMO committed to the prohibition of the use or carriage of HFO within the next several years.      ...................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_fuel_oil


You are talking about two different eras/engines.

The one linked by Carl D was in the Titanic. It "ran" on steam (or more correctly the expansion of steam). That ship carried some 6000 tons of coal to fire its boilers.

At the time locomotives, too, were steam powered.

Diesel engines were more efficient, producing more power/torque per fuel unit consumed. As a result Steam engines fell out of favour.

The engine I linked does, indeed, run on heavy fuel oil (a very basic distillate).

That engine was in service in the mid noughties (I believe several still are, in various sizes/configurations).
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Reply #21 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 11:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
What is a ' triple-expansion steam engine ' ?
Seems it has square cylinders?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_steam_engine

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A typical arrangement for a compound engine is that the steam is first expanded in a high-pressure (HP) cylinder, then having given up heat and losing pressure, it exhausts directly into one or more larger-volume low-pressure (LP) cylinders. Multiple-expansion engines employ additional cylinders, of progressively lower pressure, to extract further energy from the steam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triple_expansion_engine_animation.gif

In the case of Titanic and her 2 sisters, after the steam went through the 2 reciprocating engines it was then passed to a low pressure Parsons turbine engine which drove the centre propeller before the remaining steam returned to the condensers where it was cooled, turning it back to water, ready to be passed to the boilers where the whole process starts all over again, thus extracting the maximum amount of power from the steam.



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