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Re: Paintings
Reply #90 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 4:30pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 12:27pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 9:18am:

I think it is a mistake to interpret a meaning for such works, or for that matter to pass judgement on them. The only question I ask myself is, "Would I hang it on my wall?" I some cases, I would. As I have said before, the works that interest me the most are the ones where the viewer is allowed to do some of the work, which has been the case, thank God, since the Impressionists.[/size]

What is this ‘work’ you refer to?

What you are citing as Abstract Expressionism, but "what's in a name?"

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Reply #92 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:06pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott.

nah, I don't like that one.

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Reply #94 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:36pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:06pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott.

nah, I don't like that one.

Too red for me but she has some that I like. One of the best female impressionists of her time.

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Reply #95 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 5:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:36pm:

Too red for me but she has some that I like. One of the best female impressionists of her time.

Impressionist? Is that a joke?
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i was presented with a complete set of Arthur Mees Encyclopaedia before I even attended kindergarten, filled with copius numbers of illustrations, many of ‘great’ works of art. One particular image had a profound effect upon my view of our species, a view I’m still prone to. To learn at an early age that adults could behave this way was burnt into my mind never to leave me. Some would say it made me a cynic, I claim it made me a realist.

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Re: Paintings
Reply #96 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 8:51pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Citing?No, I'm not ‘citing’ the work as anything. Others, more familiar with the arcane game of academic fine arts classification, include that work in the category along with thousands of others.
Me, I’d be happier if this lot were classified as ’Informal Messiness School’ or similar.

"I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott."

You are citing Mary Abbott as an Abstract Expressionist. What game are you playing by denying it? Or are you just fond of being contrary?

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Reply #97 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 9:06pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 8:51pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Citing?No, I'm not ‘citing’ the work as anything. Others, more familiar with the arcane game of academic fine arts classification, include that work in the category along with thousands of others.
Me, I’d be happier if this lot were classified as ’Informal Messiness School’ or similar.

"I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott."

You are citing Mary Abbott as an Abstract Expressionist. What game are you playing by denying it? Or are you just fond of being contrary?

Possibly I didn’t express myself clearly enough to get my point through your thick, pointlessly argumentative head? I did not invent the classification ‘Abstract Expressionist’ nor did I apply it to that example. Academic art critics et al did. If you’d noticed i went on to say "I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint” you may have grasped my point. I’m tired of these absurd nit picking discussions.

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Re: Paintings
Reply #98 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 9:15pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 9:06pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 8:51pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:02pm:

Citing?No, I'm not ‘citing’ the work as anything. Others, more familiar with the arcane game of academic fine arts classification, include that work in the category along with thousands of others.
Me, I’d be happier if this lot were classified as ’Informal Messiness School’ or similar.

"I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott."

You are citing Mary Abbott as an Abstract Expressionist. What game are you playing by denying it? Or are you just fond of being contrary?

Possibly I didn’t express myself clearly enough to get my point through your thick, pointlessly argumentative head? I did not invent the classification ‘Abstract Expressionist’ nor did I apply it to that example. Academic art critics et al did. If you’d noticed i went on to say "I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint” you may have grasped my point. I’m tired of these absurd nit picking discussions.

Stop being silly, this is about Art.

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Re: Paintings
Reply #100 - Jan 6^th, 2021 at 1:19am

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 5:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:36pm:

Too red for me but she has some that I like. One of the best female impressionists of her time.

Impressionist? Is that a joke?
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This thread is interesting for reasons I hadn’t expected when it started. It’s telling us a lot about the minds of those posting here, often without them knowing it.
Take for instance

the little scenario below

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i was presented with a complete set of Arthur Mees Encyclopaedia before I even attended kindergarten, filled with copius numbers of illustrations, many of ‘great’ works of art. One particular image had a profound effect upon my view of our species, a view I’m still prone to. To learn at an early age that adults could behave this way was burnt into my mind never to leave me. Some would say it made me a cynic, I claim it made me a realist.

Amazing art.
I have never seen this before.

The subject matter, the gestures, lighting, tapestry of her dress, postures............

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