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Reply #75 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 5:54pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 4:59pm:

The greatest Australian Artist (and designer) that I know of is an American by chance. Burley-Griffith who was part of the greatest Artistic eras (Art Deco) which is still 'visually' more pure than any other decade and its cacophony of styles fighting it out.

The intelligent designs and visual angle Griffith bought to the concept of a 'City' is awesome.

I like Artists who 'Dream Big'.
More so than the likes of a painter on a 1m squared canvas.

The people of the World are waiting for a Dream Big (as big as a 'nation' Wink

) Artist.
Not some 'old' historic artist or some meaningless abstract kiddie art.
The people of the World want a Game Changer.

The majority of Australian Artists follow the Gov-General to European style Art or the PM to American/Disney style Art.
Or Media Art - which is all about Archibald 'celebritiness'.

Dream Big when it comes to Art in Australia.
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Sorry, I cannot agree with you. For one thing, I don't believe in one great artist as you do. As for the "people of the world" (your words) I don't believe they are waiting for anything. They, We, just stumble along through the centuries pushed this way and that by events. And most of them don't give a sh!t about art, artists or "big ideas.

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Reply #77 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 7:43pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 7:53am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2020 at 9:54pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 1:13pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 9:45am:

https://www.gustave-courbet.com/images/paintings/the-trout.jpg

"A Gustave Courbet portrait of a trout has more death in it than Rubens could get in a whole Crucifixion." Robert Hughes

Perhaps, but Courbet had the advantage of the evolution of painting by a couple of centuries. Silly comparison.

There is no 'evolution' in painting. Silly notion.

Primary school response.

One you cannot refute because you are pre-primary school.

Art is not accumulative, like Science. Any art that is referential of earlier art is derivative. It may be illuminating or felicitous but those are not the main purposes of art.

Kafka said this about books but it stands for art generally.

“We need books that affect us like a disaster, that grieve us deeply, like the death of someone we loved more than ourselves, like a suicide. A book must be the axe for the frozen sea within us. That is my belief.”

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60161 Here Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #78 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:21pm A lot of nice ones here not all my cup of tea but have to respect the eye of others. I was always fond of Monet among others.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #79 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:23pm Willy Pogany was a famous Hungarian illustrator in the Art Nouveau period.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60161 Here Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #80 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:27pm They say that Turner painted with light. Many of his pieces are unbelievable.
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #81 - Jan 3^rd, 2021 at 10:23am I’m surprised nobody has included an etching in this thread but maybe using the term ‘painting’ excludes such works? A shame because some of the bitch sessions - - er - - threads on this forum descend into remind me of Gustav Dore’s “Michael finds Discord presiding over an election in the monastery."
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Reply #82 - Jan 3^rd, 2021 at 10:26am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:23pm:

Willy Pogany was a famous Hungarian illustrator in the Art Nouveau period.

https://i.postimg.cc/htQgMzZ4/Pogany-001.jpg

Thanks for posting this. I’m impressed by what I’ve found of Pogany on the web. Art is so endless we need more than a few lifetimes to take in even a part of what’s been produced.
Do I detect the influence of Aubrey Beardsley?

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Reply #83 - Jan 3^rd, 2021 at 11:34am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 5:54pm:

Sorry, I cannot agree with you. For one thing, I don't believe in one great artist as you do. As for the "people of the world" (your words) I don't believe they are waiting for anything. They, We, just stumble along through the centuries pushed this way and that by events. And most of them don't give a sh!t about art, artists or "big ideas.[/size]

True, but some of them are unknowingly influenced by them, especially by religious art.

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Reply #84 - Jan 3^rd, 2021 at 11:51am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 8:18am:

There's a lot of this kind of painting around today, where the draughtsmanship has old-school accuracy, and the colour palette is hyper-primary. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand the choices.

https://i.postimg.cc/TY9rv54T/S-Fisher.jpg

For me I only have to like it. The same pure landscape would likely have been boring.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #85 - Jan 3^rd, 2021 at 1:35pm Some of Thomas Baines' paintings in Northern Australia remind me of the way the Hudson River school depicted the vastness of the American landscape, when such views were unfamiliar to Western eyes.
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Paintings Reply #86 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:24am There’s more than ‘vastness’ being portrayed in those paintings.
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Reply #87 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:30am

I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by Mary Abbott.

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Reply #88 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 9:18am

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 8:30am:

I have to lay my cards on the table when is comes to Abstract Expressionism. I’m more often than not unable to deduce what the hell is being expressed other than “OOh! I do love playing with paint". My cynical side tells me works such as these retain their value simply due to the number of cocktail parties the artist attends, the impossibility of forging them and the pretentious drivel art critics, by some miracle, manage to write about them. This one is by

I think it is a mistake to interpret a meaning for such works, or for that matter to pass judgement on them. The only question I ask myself is, "Would I hang it on my wall?" I some cases, I would. As I have said before, the works that interest me the most are the ones where the viewer is allowed to do some of the work, which has been the case, thank God, since the Impressionists.

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Reply #89 - Jan 4^th, 2021 at 12:27pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 4^th, 2021 at 9:18am:

I think it is a mistake to interpret a meaning for such works, or for that matter to pass judgement on them. The only question I ask myself is, "Would I hang it on my wall?" I some cases, I would. As I have said before, the works that interest me the most are the ones where the viewer is allowed to do some of the work, which has been the case, thank God, since the Impressionists.[/size]

What is this ‘work’ you refer to?

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