issuevoter wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:32pm:


I can’t imagine what a subtle image of the Crucifixion would involve. Since early childhood I’ve found images of Christ on the cross deeply disturbing.  I still find the theology underlying images of a deity torturing his son (who is actually part of himself ) disturbing. I’ve probably said too much about all this on other sections of the forum so will resist sermonising.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm:

"For a specific example of Kemp’s mature work, we may take his winning entry in the 1968 Blake Prize entitled The Cross.  This is not just a cruciform design representing the cross of Calvary, which would give the painting a ready if shallow intelligibility.  It must be understood more profoundly in terms of the interplay of the symbols of his pictorial language.  It is an opening to a metaphysical, not a literally religious, meaning.  The cross, he said in a 1975 ABC interview, draws each person back to their own centre… We have lost our centre.  The cross is to bring us back.  People are alienated today.  The central cross is a point of balance, of reference.  The cross stands for rebirth.  The human figure of his earlier work remains embedded in his cruciform shapes.  Thus Kemp took up Gleeson’s metaphor: All the crosses in my paintings are like figures, like ballet choreography starting to move with the music.  They break and then come together" (The Australian, 9 September 1978).

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:27pm:


You're confused to your Christian theocracy. God didn't torture His Son. Mankind tortured and murdered His Son. The God-Deity did this so that Mankind could recognise the Evil in the heart of Man.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:04pm:

Biblical apologetics is a pathetic, third rate discipline and you’re not very good at it.
Possibly you should meditate upon God’s omniscience and it’s implications in the light of ‘him’ knowing where the creation of our species would end. You might also gain some understanding of the theological ‘mysteries’ by pondering where the creation of ’the evil in the heart of man’ came from. And don’t bother trying to pull that old trick of God having granted humankind free will. In the light of God’s omniscience the sadistic nature of that supposed being is fully illustrated in granting free will.You may also wish to digest the contradiction between Psalm 62 V 11 and Psalm 62 V 12.
If none of that works for you continue on your mission supported by the consolation of Romans Ch 10. V 15.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:


Never mind.

Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2020 at 9:26am:

I adore his work but at times it’s hard for me to be objective about many of his seaside views as I grew up on or near them. Makes me homesick at times.