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Aug 30th, 2020 at 1:25pm
 
Big problem looms for 40% of Aussies who accessed super early   Sad



Newds.com.au
AUGUST 19, 2020

New research has revealed 40 per cent of Australians who withdrew superannuation from July 1 were potentially ineligible, leaving themselves exposed to an expensive ATO fine.

Under the Super Early Release Scheme, which was introduced to help Aussies through the coronavirus crisis, eligible Australians were able to take $10,000 from their super last financial year and a further $10,000 this financial year.

But to meet the criteria, a citizen or permanent resident of Australia and New Zealand must need the cash as a direct result of the economic impact of COVID-19, and must be either unemployed, receiving government benefits such as JobSeeker, have been made redundant as of January 1 or had their work hours cut by at least 20 per cent.

Sole traders are also eligible if their business was suspended or had a drop in turnover of 20 per cent or more.

However, applicants do not have to attach evidence to support their claim, with the Australian Taxation Office simply advising “you should keep records and documents to confirm your eligibility as we may ask you for this information”.

Now, analytics company AlphaBeta and credit bureau illion have crunched the numbers and found 40 per cent of Australians who made a second withdrawal from July 1 didn’t lose any income during the coronavirus pandemic.   Sad



Prime Minister Scott Morrison previously said he didn’t want to ‘give lectures’ to Aussies when it came to their super.




The analysis found those people had spent an extra $3618 on average in the fortnight after receiving the cash compared with their normal spending habits.


And 64 per cent was spent on non-essential items such as alcohol and clothing.

The research also revealed an average of $219 was spent on alcohol and tobacco in the fortnight after the second superannuation withdrawal, compared with $157 the first time around. Clothing and department store spending was also up from $296 to $317, as was spending in restaurants and cafes at $287, up from $207.

However, the tax office has since revealed a superannuation rort crackdown, with the rollout of a preliminary examination of eligibility for claims.

It has also confirmed that those found breaking the rules could face separate financial penalties of up to $12,600 on each respective claim.

It means double-dipping account holders who lied about financial stress induced by COVID-19 could be fined a maximum penalty of $25,200, if the ATO deems the applications to be false and misleading.

ATO assistant commissioner Sonia Corsini previously told news.com.au while the “vast majority” of those who had withdrawn super were “honest and doing the right thing”, the tax office would take action when people “deliberately exploit the system”.
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Reply #1 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 3:34pm
 
I gotta get me some super.
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Reply #2 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 3:45pm
 
i got mine out and went and bought some gold and silver like they should have done years ago instead of holding worthless paper and promissory notes used to gamble on the national share-market casino for big losses Sad At least I can say that I now have a balanced portfolio with some capital growth that survives share market crashes and corrections and I don't have the thieves stealing their fees from it like they do for the rest of the punters Wink

Who the f.cken hell do these super fund scammers think they are preaching to everyone not to take out their super when they literally steal the equivalent amount in fees each year !! Fricken arrogant pieces of sh,t !! Why isn't the ATO looking into that instead of chasing the battlers ??





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Reply #3 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 3:51pm
 
Hi Nail,
theft of super by fund managers who
take out fees and drive around in luxury cars.


Even after a lifetime of being taken by friends and enemies alike -
and then, just when you feel you have your possessions sure -
your health begins to fade -
that is of course the ultimate theft.
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Reply #4 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2020 at 3:51pm:
Hi Nail,
theft of super by fund managers who
take out fees and drive around in luxury cars.


Even after a lifetime of being taken by friends and enemies alike -
and then, just when you feel you have your possessions sure -
your health begins to fade -
that is of course the ultimate theft.


Something very wrong with the whole setup and the way the pollies pensions are guaranteed by the tax payer of Australia instead of being thrown at the national sharemarket casino like the rest of us have to endure Sad
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Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 4:30pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 30th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2020 at 3:51pm:
Hi Nail,
theft of super by fund managers who
take out fees and drive around in luxury cars.


Even after a lifetime of being taken by friends and enemies alike -
and then, just when you feel you have your possessions sure -
your health begins to fade -
that is of course the ultimate theft.


Something very wrong with the whole setup and the way the pollies pensions are guaranteed by the tax payer of Australia instead of being thrown at the national sharemarket casino like the rest of us have to endure Sad



The politicians should have to use the same super fund as us.
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Reply #6 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 7:08pm
 
It won't work. It's a 'default' claim by the ATO to use this action to 'cash in' more than people withdrew. They didn't provide this information up front before allowing the Super Releases. Thus, it can be used as 'misleading' the Public and the Public can plead innocent to not being cautioned.

If they release a 3rd $10,000 super next year - then people are then 'cautioned' and can be instantly fined.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 30th, 2020 at 7:15pm
 
Fined for taking your own money....well done Australia.  Grin
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Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:03am
 
Poor diddums.

Im living off my super now

SO THE GRUBBERMENT CAN STUFF THEIR FINES RIGHT UP THEIR USELESS KYBERS
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Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:24am
 
Less accumulated super in retirement = higher burden on social security?

Seems that the 'right' here are as intent on destroying this 'socialist super' as they are on destroying this 'socialist healthcare'... thick as two planks nailed end to end.....

Now what kind of damned idiot would say:- "spend your accumulated funds now and let the future worry about itself" - KNOWING that this 'future' means greater reliance on public funding?

Keep your fingers in those dykes, boys... one day it might even stop raining...
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Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:28am
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 30th, 2020 at 7:08pm:
It won't work. It's a 'default' claim by the ATO to use this action to 'cash in' more than people withdrew. They didn't provide this information up front before allowing the Super Releases. Thus, it can be used as 'misleading' the Public and the Public can plead innocent to not being cautioned.

If they release a 3rd $10,000 super next year - then people are then 'cautioned' and can be instantly fined.




Wait until they try on the old 'ignorance of the law is not an excuse' - well, sonny (ATO) this is not Law - it's your imposing a 'regulation', and you can stick it.

We desperately need a revolution in this nation, or at the very least a new party that works for the people first and isn't just another fat and easy career path for a bunch of old school mates.
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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:35am
 
The Super Releases have allowed a 43% increase in 'own business' Registrations this year. That's great towards a self-sufficient domestic economy.
Under the threat of death by Covid-19, people are using that money now (stimulus back into the Economy), for they might not be alive to use it later. Does your unused Super pass to Family members, because you are dead?

$20,000 can make a difference 'now' - that you might not need your Super later, because you've achieved financial independence down the track thanks to the early release.

This is a Crises time. This is where the Super is best used 'now', rather than later. The Super Release is providing the missing Stepping Stone to allow access for many across the stream of Crises flowing.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #12 - Aug 31st, 2020 at 9:03am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 31st, 2020 at 8:24am:
Less accumulated super in retirement = higher burden on social security?

Seems that the 'right' here are as intent on destroying this 'socialist super' as they are on destroying this 'socialist healthcare'... thick as two planks nailed end to end.....

Now what kind of damned idiot would say:- "spend your accumulated funds now and let the future worry about itself" - KNOWING that this 'future' means greater reliance on public funding?

Keep your fingers in those dykes, boys... one day it might even stop raining...


Not a higher burden if all the old ppl die

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