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Reply #105 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:23pm:

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/terrorism-victim-calls-return-...

Dr Mohammad Alayan outside the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch.

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A man left fighting for his life in the wake of the "heinous" Christchurch mosque shootings has called for the death penalty to be reintroduced in New Zealand.

Mohammad Alayan, who owns An-Nur Early Childhood Education and Care Centre in South Dunedin, was at the Al Noor Mosque on March 15, 2019, when Australian gunman Brenton Tarrant shot him in the head and chest, and killed his son, Atta.

They were among the 51 people killed and 49 injured in the terrorist attack.

Dr Alayan, of Christchurch, has recovered from his injuries and has prepared his victim impact statement, to be read at the sentencing of Tarrant.

He provided a copy of it to the Otago Daily Times yesterday.

In it, he calls for New Zealand to bring back capital punishment.

"Since March 15, 2019 until writing this statement, my heart is yearning for restoration of justice to the victims of the heinous massacre, and a call for the death penalty for the brutal and conscienceless criminal," his statement says.

"Crimes like the one committed on March 15, 2019, are so heinous and inherently wrong that they demand the death penalty to deter such heinous crimes in the future, and to keep the society safe.

"The death penalty for the most heinous murders and the most brutal and conscienceless murderers, such as the terror attack on March 15, 2019, is a must if justice is to prevail.

"To sentence killers like Brenton Harrison Tarrant to less than death, would fail to do justice, because the penalty — presumably a long period in prison — would be grossly disproportionate to the heinousness of the crime."

New Zealand is an advanced, civilised country Booby.

They aren't going to bring back capital punishment.

You can put your chubby away for now.

Remember when you posted that you were going to emigrate there when Turnbull beat The Forehead in the general election? Like your infamous Trump promise; ie not a promise at all.

Yes, I remember it well.

Can't wait to settle there permanently.

Neither can we.

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #106 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:23pm:

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/terrorism-victim-calls-return-...

Dr Mohammad Alayan outside the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch.

PHOTOS: THE STAR (CHRISTCHURCH)/SUPPLIED
A man left fighting for his life in the wake of the "heinous" Christchurch mosque shootings has called for the death penalty to be reintroduced in New Zealand.

Mohammad Alayan, who owns An-Nur Early Childhood Education and Care Centre in South Dunedin, was at the Al Noor Mosque on March 15, 2019, when Australian gunman Brenton Tarrant shot him in the head and chest, and killed his son, Atta.

They were among the 51 people killed and 49 injured in the terrorist attack.

Dr Alayan, of Christchurch, has recovered from his injuries and has prepared his victim impact statement, to be read at the sentencing of Tarrant.

He provided a copy of it to the Otago Daily Times yesterday.

In it, he calls for New Zealand to bring back capital punishment.

"Since March 15, 2019 until writing this statement, my heart is yearning for restoration of justice to the victims of the heinous massacre, and a call for the death penalty for the brutal and conscienceless criminal," his statement says.

"Crimes like the one committed on March 15, 2019, are so heinous and inherently wrong that they demand the death penalty to deter such heinous crimes in the future, and to keep the society safe.

"The death penalty for the most heinous murders and the most brutal and conscienceless murderers, such as the terror attack on March 15, 2019, is a must if justice is to prevail.

"To sentence killers like Brenton Harrison Tarrant to less than death, would fail to do justice, because the penalty — presumably a long period in prison — would be grossly disproportionate to the heinousness of the crime."

New Zealand is an advanced, civilised country Booby.

They aren't going to bring back capital punishment.

You can put your chubby away for now.

Remember when you posted that you were going to emigrate there when Turnbull beat The Forehead in the general election? Like your infamous Trump promise; ie not a promise at all.

Yes, I remember it well.

Can't wait to settle there permanently.

Neither can we.

How will it make any difference to you?

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #107 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:23pm:

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/terrorism-victim-calls-return-...

Dr Mohammad Alayan outside the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch.

PHOTOS: THE STAR (CHRISTCHURCH)/SUPPLIED
A man left fighting for his life in the wake of the "heinous" Christchurch mosque shootings has called for the death penalty to be reintroduced in New Zealand.

Mohammad Alayan, who owns An-Nur Early Childhood Education and Care Centre in South Dunedin, was at the Al Noor Mosque on March 15, 2019, when Australian gunman Brenton Tarrant shot him in the head and chest, and killed his son, Atta.

They were among the 51 people killed and 49 injured in the terrorist attack.

Dr Alayan, of Christchurch, has recovered from his injuries and has prepared his victim impact statement, to be read at the sentencing of Tarrant.

He provided a copy of it to the Otago Daily Times yesterday.

In it, he calls for New Zealand to bring back capital punishment.

"Since March 15, 2019 until writing this statement, my heart is yearning for restoration of justice to the victims of the heinous massacre, and a call for the death penalty for the brutal and conscienceless criminal," his statement says.

"Crimes like the one committed on March 15, 2019, are so heinous and inherently wrong that they demand the death penalty to deter such heinous crimes in the future, and to keep the society safe.

"The death penalty for the most heinous murders and the most brutal and conscienceless murderers, such as the terror attack on March 15, 2019, is a must if justice is to prevail.

"To sentence killers like Brenton Harrison Tarrant to less than death, would fail to do justice, because the penalty — presumably a long period in prison — would be grossly disproportionate to the heinousness of the crime."

New Zealand is an advanced, civilised country Booby.

They aren't going to bring back capital punishment.

You can put your chubby away for now.

Remember when you posted that you were going to emigrate there when Turnbull beat The Forehead in the general election? Like your infamous Trump promise; ie not a promise at all.

Yes, I remember it well.

Can't wait to settle there permanently.

As for the other promise?

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #108 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 1:23pm:

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/terrorism-victim-calls-return-...

Dr Mohammad Alayan outside the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch.

PHOTOS: THE STAR (CHRISTCHURCH)/SUPPLIED
A man left fighting for his life in the wake of the "heinous" Christchurch mosque shootings has called for the death penalty to be reintroduced in New Zealand.

Mohammad Alayan, who owns An-Nur Early Childhood Education and Care Centre in South Dunedin, was at the Al Noor Mosque on March 15, 2019, when Australian gunman Brenton Tarrant shot him in the head and chest, and killed his son, Atta.

They were among the 51 people killed and 49 injured in the terrorist attack.

Dr Alayan, of Christchurch, has recovered from his injuries and has prepared his victim impact statement, to be read at the sentencing of Tarrant.

He provided a copy of it to the Otago Daily Times yesterday.

In it, he calls for New Zealand to bring back capital punishment.

"Since March 15, 2019 until writing this statement, my heart is yearning for restoration of justice to the victims of the heinous massacre, and a call for the death penalty for the brutal and conscienceless criminal," his statement says.

"Crimes like the one committed on March 15, 2019, are so heinous and inherently wrong that they demand the death penalty to deter such heinous crimes in the future, and to keep the society safe.

"The death penalty for the most heinous murders and the most brutal and conscienceless murderers, such as the terror attack on March 15, 2019, is a must if justice is to prevail.

"To sentence killers like Brenton Harrison Tarrant to less than death, would fail to do justice, because the penalty — presumably a long period in prison — would be grossly disproportionate to the heinousness of the crime."

New Zealand is an advanced, civilised country Booby.

They aren't going to bring back capital punishment.

You can put your chubby away for now.

Remember when you posted that you were going to emigrate there when Turnbull beat The Forehead in the general election? Like your infamous Trump promise; ie not a promise at all.

Yes, I remember it well.

Can't wait to settle there permanently.

Neither can we.

How will it make any difference to you?

I'll feel better in the knowledge.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 115486 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today Reply #109 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 2:56pm I hope that Greggy goes to NZ and in NZ they cut off the internet to this political subversive site.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today Reply #110 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 3:00pm He'll get raped by a gang of Maoris in South Aukland on the first day
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 115486 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today Reply #111 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 3:03pm Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 3:00pm: He'll get raped by a gang of Maoris in South Auckland on the first day Only if he wears his tutu.
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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #112 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 4:54pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Now then. children - we are, as usual dragged off the topic by The Usual Suspects ... so let's restore some balance here:-

NOBODY here EVER supported the actions of Tarrant.

NOBODY here EVER said he was justified.

MOST here called for the highest level of punishment for his crimes, Bobby went the whole hog.

NOBODY here EVER 'blamed the victims'. Some of us very clearly have stated repeatedly that this group attacked are a peaceful lot of refugees who have done nothing to NZ, and that the perpetrator is a traitor to the white race and is unworthy of it.

I'm afraid you are wrong there Grappler

Jasin wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

Whiteys do a 'Terrorist' attack against Moslems in their own Mosques
Grin

I was wondering when some Whiteys get some balls to give the Moslems a taste of their own 'actions'. Even the gutless IRA haven't the balls to take on Moslems.

You watch Tourism boom in Christchurch now that it is being 'cleansed' of Moslems. Christians will flood in from everywhere now that they know they now have a Moslem Free Safe Zone.

REJOICE !!!!

And I can assure you that plenty of the posts, while not actually promoting Tarrant's actions, were sympathetic to them.

Valkie wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

But, how many Christian churches have been burned to the ground white the people were inside?
How many Christians have been murdered in the name of Islam in Islamic countries?
Perhaps this may wake a few people up.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 16^th, 2019 at 3:45pm:

He's not a white supremacist .... he claims to be defending Western culture from barbarians, not seeking supremacy of anything but safety of the west, according to his own ideas .... thank you for coming...

The claims he is making are more White Equalist, as much as - say - an Arab or Black African will say he wants to protect his land etc from outsiders....

Nothing supremacist about it at all....just preserving his idea of a status quo...

And that was just a quick scan of the posts from back then.

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #113 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 5:00pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 4:54pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Now then. children - we are, as usual dragged off the topic by The Usual Suspects ... so let's restore some balance here:-

NOBODY here EVER supported the actions of Tarrant.

NOBODY here EVER said he was justified.

MOST here called for the highest level of punishment for his crimes, Bobby went the whole hog.

NOBODY here EVER 'blamed the victims'. Some of us very clearly have stated repeatedly that this group attacked are a peaceful lot of refugees who have done nothing to NZ, and that the perpetrator is a traitor to the white race and is unworthy of it.

I'm afraid you are wrong there Grappler

Jasin wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

Whiteys do a 'Terrorist' attack against Moslems in their own Mosques
Grin

I was wondering when some Whiteys get some balls to give the Moslems a taste of their own 'actions'. Even the gutless IRA haven't the balls to take on Moslems.

You watch Tourism boom in Christchurch now that it is being 'cleansed' of Moslems. Christians will flood in from everywhere now that they know they now have a Moslem Free Safe Zone.

REJOICE !!!!

And I can assure you that plenty of the posts, while not actually promoting Tarrant's actions, were sympathetic to them.

Valkie wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

But, how many Christian churches have been burned to the ground white the people were inside?
How many Christians have been murdered in the name of Islam in Islamic countries?
Perhaps this may wake a few people up.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 16^th, 2019 at 3:45pm:

He's not a white supremacist .... he claims to be defending Western culture from barbarians, not seeking supremacy of anything but safety of the west, according to his own ideas .... thank you for coming...

The claims he is making are more White Equalist, as much as - say - an Arab or Black African will say he wants to protect his land etc from outsiders....

Nothing supremacist about it at all....just preserving his idea of a status quo...

And that was just a quick scan of the posts from back then.

JaSin is in his own world - as for my post - you understand what is this 'claims' and what the entire comment means?

NOTHING in my post defends or supports Tarrant's actions.... I merely point out the enormous discrepancies in reasoning that go into issues such as this, and refute the claim that there are all these 'white supremacists' running around Australasia doing stuff (one person) and that the very idea of a 'white supremacist ideology' is absurd ... keep up in class.... the same as Ahab and Oooga-Booga, HIS ideas are that he is simply seeking justice and equality.

I'm sure you would readily leap to give reasons for the actions of an Islamic villager whose family was killed by bombs - and show those as a tempering influence on judgement of those actions while pointing out the endless futility of such events... the same rule applies to Tarrant.

As Tim O'Brien said about the My Lai massacre - he could understand it - but he could not condone it. There is a world of difference, and unless we begin to seek understanding of these issues and their mechanisms, they will continue from all sides - tit for tat.

I say again - nothing in my posts supports Tarrant's actions - but instead seeks understanding of them .... and attempts, futiley it seems, to get youz lot thinking about the realities of these things rather than applying a monochromatic, cardboard cutout 'reality' to them..

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today Reply #114 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 5:41pm So by saying that...."perhaps the moslems had something like this coming.....it now means you support the actions of the perp. Wow....people really are fuct up now.
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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #115 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 5:50pm

Well - such an event was inevitable at some time... unfortunately it happened next door in Nu Zulland and was perped by an 'Australian'

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...

Wonder if anyone here can work out what that means? They seem an unusually obtuse lot today.... something to do with that monochromatic, cardboard cutout approach to reality....

Some here remind me of the 'Radical Black Guy' in Balls of Steel - the moment you mention a 'trigger' word - he went off...

"Can I buy a packet of black jelly beans?"

"No - they come in all colours in the packet."

**trigger, wham, hit the roof**

"It was inevitable that some Westerner would hit back at Islam using the same approach of murder of innocents."

**trigger, wham, hit the roof, screech Islamophobe, victim blaming, support/justification for murderer et cetera et cetera et cetera ...**

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89473 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today Reply #116 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 5:57pm "owns An-Nur Early Childhood Education and Care Centre in South Dunedin" Red Flag... is he being inspected? After experience across the Big Blue Water in the West Islands ....
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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #117 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:02pm

Anyway - an old mate of mine who was WO at Moorebank Provosts (Military Police) would be slavering at the thought of having Tarrant in his custody..... life without, you say.... OOOO...KKKK - we can make that life without a quiet day every day.......and yesterday was the good day... 5am rattling the bars with a billy club.....

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #118 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:10pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:02pm:

Anyway - an old mate of mine who was WO at Moorebank Provosts (Military Police) would be slavering at the thought of having Tarrant in his custody..... life without, you say.... OOOO...KKKK - we can make that life without a quiet day every day.......and yesterday was the good day... 5am rattling the bars with a billy club.....

I'm surprised a 10,000 person lynch mob
is not outside the courthouse with a noose ready.

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Re: Brenton Tarrant's sentencing today
Reply #119 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:10pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 25^th, 2020 at 6:02pm:

Anyway - an old mate of mine who was WO at Moorebank Provosts (Military Police) would be slavering at the thought of having Tarrant in his custody..... life without, you say.... OOOO...KKKK - we can make that life without a quiet day every day.......and yesterday was the good day... 5am rattling the bars with a billy club.....

I'm surprised a 10,000 person lynch mob
is not outside the courthouse with a noose ready.

They probably are.... lot of people very angry about this one.... He'll get the same treatment as that idiot in Manchester. They all give the good people a bad name.

You want Guantanamo? You looking for a holiday, maggot?

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Yes 2 (20.0%) No 6 (60.0%) Undecided 2 (20.0%) Total votes: 10 « Created by: greggerypeccary on: Aug 28^th, 2020 at 2:53pm »