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Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2022 at 9:06pm:


I asked two questions in my post (but really the same question):

1. Who among us can't enjoy those fabulous Greek or Indian festivals...?

2. Or even - for those who appreciate dance - aboriginal-derived dance theatre?

....as a rebuttal of the OP's assertion: "Racial and cultural diversity is bad for any country"

Why am I not surprised you replied ONLY to my simple observation above, which you have managed to turn into
"common cause and solidarity" versus "diverse cause and fragmented solidarity". 

As always you can't debate the substantive issue in my post,  namely:

I agree this culture/race crap is dispiriting...but such 'identity politics' follows the Left's failure to confront the real villain in the piece, namely, the current evil economic orthodoxy which forces everyone to compete in the free-market economy,   regardless of ability and circumstance. [I've already addressed the point that welfare is a disastrous cop-out proffered by the current evil economic orthodoxy].

I have to disagree with you there a little Frank.

I have many friends of many nationalities.
They love Australia and are what I would call true blue Aussies.
But they also revere their cultural heritage and still enjoy celebrating their history and culture.
This has enriched Australian society immensely,
With their food, their sense of fun, family values and cultural diversity.

But, and this is where it gets complicated.
If a culture prioritises their culture over their new adopted country,
We have a problem.
When they pit their culture against our and openly seek to destroy, usurp or denigrate our culture, they are no longer welcome.
When they create unrest, refuse to even participate in our values or, as a group, become criminal ridden or problematic.
They should be deported, as they are no longer of any value to Australia.

The old immigrants have been wonderful for our country.
The new illegal and criminal immigrants we see now are harming our country.
We do not need our laws changed
We do not need criminal groups invading homes, shooting people, raping our women and defrauding our welfare system.

Get rid of them.

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:


Hey I'll take that point head on, and note that homo sapiens is becoming less tribal and more multi-cultural as time moves on.

Not everyone can travel overseas; and it is the destiny of the "New World"  to receive immigrants from the Old.

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I see this in terms of history: humanity is barely out of its infancy...and is still behaving as such (that is, terribly...).

As to "erasing national culture", the trick is to ditch what is obsolete and absorb what is valuable, from ANY culture.

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Agreed, but as I said, glorious song and dance and art can be  wonderful to experience regardless of origin.

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Ah ...competition among "free" sovereign individuals.

Just watch out to avoid tripping over the homeless on the footpaths on a Saturday night...

Setanta wrote on Feb 13^th, 2022 at 5:37pm:


Note: that's not debate. I accept your concession.

So, now you can be born overseas,,,,do a crime in Australia but not be deported if you play the system and claim to be aboriginal.
Not sure its worth it.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/oct/14/australia-seeks-to-overturn-landmark-ruling-preventing-deportation-of-aboriginal-people

miketrees wrote on Mar 12^th, 2022 at 9:57pm:


I reckon Oz should be able to deport criminals born overseas who do not have Oz citizenship.

Especially since the idea of aboriginality is increasingly absurd, as more and white people claim to be aboriginal....