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Reply #150 - Jan 16th, 2022 at 6:01pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 16th, 2022 at 5:41pm:
Valkie wrote on Jan 16th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
Yeah, but so were the kangaroos.

About tge same level of intelligence and involvement.


Australian aboriginals actually belong to the same species as you, didn't you know....

The fact that Australia remained  isolated from the centers of civilization for 10,000 years is pertinent.




Same species, but vastly different in so many ways.
Genetically speaking, the great apes share many of our genes so that they are virtually identical. But that in no way makes them equal.

The fact that they remained pre-stoneage right up to the arrival of their saviours, the magnificent whites, simply goes to show that they were and are too lazy to even advance their kultcha beyond sticks and stones.

Other indigenous people all over the world are far more advanced, even those island bound with little resources.
But here we have a country where coal, iron ore and copper is lying all over the ground and not one of these primitives woke up to the fact that they could process copper, or iron or steel.
Simply too lazy and primitive.
It was even beyond them to attach a rock to a stick.

Excuses abound to justify the aboriginal laziness.
But the simple fact is that if they couldn't burn it or eat it, it never entered their minds.

Does this not remind you of a monkey who's use of a stick as a tool which is is rudementary at best?

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Reply #151 - Jan 17th, 2022 at 2:16pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jan 16th, 2022 at 6:01pm:
Same species, but vastly different in so many ways.
Genetically speaking, the great apes share many of our genes so that they are virtually identical. But that in no way makes them equal.


Biologists and geneticists  wouldn't allow that statement to stand, I'm sure....but for the sake of the argument lets read on:

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The fact that they remained pre-stoneage right up to the arrival of their saviours, the magnificent whites, simply goes to show that they were and are too lazy to even advance their kultcha beyond sticks and stones.


You completely ignored the isolation of Australia and its separation from the advance of civilization.  Even Britons - at the edge of the Eurasian continent - were still illiterate when Caesar showed up, 2 millenia after the invention of Babylonian astronomy. 

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Other indigenous people all over the world are far more advanced, even those island bound with little resources.
 

Maoris? New Guineans? Amazonians?


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But here we have a country where coal, iron ore and copper is lying all over the ground and not one of these primitives woke up to the fact that they could process copper, or iron or steel.


Hunter gatherers don't NEED to process metals. And if the country doesn't have native grasses suitable for agriculture, it's impossible to stay in one place long enough  to develop those technologies. 

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Simply too lazy and primitive.
It was even beyond them to attach a rock to a stick.
Addressed above; geography, not lack of intelligence.

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Excuses abound to justify the aboriginal laziness.
But the simple fact is that if they couldn't burn it or eat it, it never entered their minds.
Does this not remind you of a monkey who's use of a stick as a tool which is is rudementary at best?


Monkeys don't develop complex song and dance traditions. 
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Reply #152 - Jan 17th, 2022 at 4:39pm
 
You spend so much time justifying the primitive.

Wasnt it pascoe who said abbos were not hunter gatherers?
As for "complex" song and dance.
A 5 year old can and do make up just as complex dances.
Like it or not
Abbos would never have survived this long of not for their saviors ( the whites)
Had the English not taken over, other ( far less tolerant races) woukd certainly have.
And they woukd not have put up with the bull shite we do.

If anything
The abbos should be heartfully thanking us every day for saving them
Tgey should walk up to every white and shake our hands and thank us for what we have done for them.

But no, instead they become terrorists and burn our buildings.
Ungrateful animals.
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Reply #153 - Jan 18th, 2022 at 2:44pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jan 17th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
You spend so much time justifying the primitive.


We were all "primitive" once.

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Wasnt it pascoe who said abbos were not hunter gatherers?


I think Pascoe has been refuted by real anthropologists...

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As for "complex" song and dance.
A 5 year old can and do make up just as complex dances.


Only the adult versions survive to become traditional.   

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Like it or not Abbos would never have survived this long of not for their saviors ( the whites)


Why not? They survived for 60 thousand years before the Brits turned up. 

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Had the English not taken over, other ( far less tolerant races) woukd certainly have.
And they woukd not have put up with the bull shite we do.
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Possibly, on both counts. [Personally I think the entire human race is headed to eventual 'assimilation', I see no problem with that].

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If anything
The abbos should be heartfully thanking us every day for saving them
We didn't save them, we destroyed their culture. Therefore it's our job  to pick up the pieces, on the way to cultural and racial assimilation. But to do that we have to change OUR culture.   

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Tgey should walk up to every white and shake our hands and thank us for what we have done for them.


Addressed above. Many are dispirited and angry because of  the destruction of their culture.

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But no, instead they become terrorists and burn our buildings.
Ungrateful animals.


Addressed above.
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Reply #154 - Jan 19th, 2022 at 8:04am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 18th, 2022 at 2:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Jan 17th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
You spend so much time justifying the primitive.


We were all "primitive" once.




And we were all 2 year olds once.  But some of us have grown up.
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Reply #155 - Jan 19th, 2022 at 11:31am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2022 at 8:04am:
And we were all 2 year olds once.  But some of us have grown up.


All humans were  "primitive/uncivilized" once, but no longer.

But humans will always continue to be 2 year olds...when they are two years old .....no matter how civilized we become.

Just to spell it out to you.   


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Reply #156 - Jan 19th, 2022 at 6:22pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 19th, 2022 at 11:31am:
Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2022 at 8:04am:
And we were all 2 year olds once.  But some of us have grown up.


All humans were  "primitive/uncivilized" once, but no longer.

But humans will always continue to be 2 year olds...when they are two years old .....no matter how civilized we become.

Just to spell it out to you.   




Some remain primitive, some revert to primitivism. Some, like the Chinese, have primitivism thrust upon them.
Some revert to being 2 year old, some agitate for the Chinese model of soul-reprimitivisation for mere filthy lucre.





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Reply #157 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 2:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Some remain primitive, some revert to primitivism.


You are altering definitions.  All mankind began as primitives, and by now most of humanity have been exposed to civilization.

In that sense, homo sapiens  cannot 'revert to primitivism' (except perhaps if we survived a self-inflicted nuclear holocaust).

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Some, like the Chinese, have primitivism thrust upon them.


Oh dear...the nation will be world leaders in AI by 2025....

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Some revert to being 2 year old, some agitate for the Chinese model of soul-reprimitivisation for mere filthy lucre.


No one can 'revert to being 2 year old'.

As for planning to colonize Mars as the Chinese are doing, that's a glorious path for all mankind, regardless of 'filthy lucre' eg Musk selling 3 minute joyrides in space to millionaires.






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Reply #158 - Jan 20th, 2022 at 8:37pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 2:42pm:
No one can 'revert to being 2 year old'.


Of course they can! They can be any age or gender they choose to be in the moment. How binary can you get?! Shocked
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Reply #159 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:36pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 8:37pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 2:42pm:
No one can 'revert to being 2 year old'.


Of course they can! They can be any age or gender they choose to be in the moment. How binary can you get?! Shocked


Dont tgey teach at school that you can be anything you want to be.

From a different (or weird) sexual orientation to a box of matches.

Being 2 is just an easy one.

Just look at bwyannnnnnnnn
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Reply #160 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 8:37pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 20th, 2022 at 2:42pm:
No one can 'revert to being 2 year old'.


Of course they can! They can be any age or gender they choose to be in the moment. How binary can you get?! Shocked


You are confusing ideology with fact. You can only be 2 years old once in your life....regardless  of what gender (or anything else) you might  prefer to "choose".

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Reply #161 - Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:46pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jan 21st, 2022 at 3:36pm:
Dont tgey teach at school that you can be anything you want to be.

From a different (or weird) sexual orientation to a box of matches.

Being 2 is just an easy one.

Just look at bwyannnnnnnnn


You made the same mistake as Setanta. See reply #160
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Reply #162 - Jan 26th, 2022 at 9:39am
 
The Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear two cases challenging racial preferences in admissions at Harvard and the University of North Carolina. Kudos to the Justices for taking this opportunity to vindicate equal treatment under the law regardless of race, especially when the left is pushing racial calculations into policies far beyond campus.

This also is a chance for the Court to correct its own mistakes. Racial quotas are forbidden, but in Grutter v. Bollinger (2003), a 5-4 majority endorsed the idea that race could be a “plus” factor to help colleges seek “the educational benefits that fl5ow from a diverse student body.” Yet there was an expiration date: “We expect that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today.”

That deadline is almost here. But two decades later the progressive zeal for divvying up people by race, ethnicity and sexuality has increased. Colleges have begun hosting specific graduation events for black, “Latinx” or LGBT students. Some dorms provide optional “affinity housing.” States and hospitals lately have written race into their policies for allocating scarce Covid-19 treatments. The old goal of “equality” is now passe on the left, which wants “equity,” which means unequal treatment in an attempt to achieve equal results.

Also, what is the limit on a racial plus factor? Students for Fair Admissions, the petitioner in both cases, says Harvard admits 56.1% of black applicants in the top academic decile, compared with 31.3% of Hispanics, 15.3% of whites, and 12.7% of Asians. A black applicant who’s in the fourth-lowest decile, it adds, “has a higher chance of admission (12.8%) than an Asian American in the top decile.”

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Reply #163 - Jan 26th, 2022 at 4:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 9:39am:
The Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear two cases challenging racial preferences in admissions at Harvard and the University of North Carolina. Kudos to the Justices for taking this opportunity to vindicate equal treatment under the law regardless of race, especially when the left is pushing racial calculations into policies far beyond campus.

This also is a chance for the Court to correct its own mistakes. Racial quotas are forbidden, but in Grutter v. Bollinger (2003), a 5-4 majority endorsed the idea that race could be a “plus” factor to help colleges seek “the educational benefits that fl5ow from a diverse student body.” Yet there was an expiration date: “We expect that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today.”

That deadline is almost here. But two decades later the progressive zeal for divvying up people by race, ethnicity and sexuality has increased. Colleges have begun hosting specific graduation events for black, “Latinx” or LGBT students. Some dorms provide optional “affinity housing.” States and hospitals lately have written race into their policies for allocating scarce Covid-19 treatments. The old goal of “equality” is now passe on the left, which wants “equity,” which means unequal treatment in an attempt to achieve equal results.

Also, what is the limit on a racial plus factor? Students for Fair Admissions, the petitioner in both cases, says Harvard admits 56.1% of black applicants in the top academic decile, compared with 31.3% of Hispanics, 15.3% of whites, and 12.7% of Asians. A black applicant who’s in the fourth-lowest decile, it adds, “has a higher chance of admission (12.8%) than an Asian American in the top decile.”

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i agree this culture/race crap is dispiriting...but such 'identity politics' follows the Left's failure to confront the real villain in the piece, namely, the current evil economic orthodoxy which forces everyone to compete in the free-market economy,   regardless of ability and circumstance. [I've already addressed the point that welfare is a disastrous cop-out proffered by the current evil economic orthodoxy].

As to the OP's  heading:"Racial and cultural diversity-bad for any country", it is plain wrong. Who among us can't enjoy those fabulous Greek or Indian festivals...? Or even - for those who appreciate dance - aboriginal-derived dance theatre?

What IS wrong is trying to establish a separate identity for aboriginals in Oz - aka 'aboriginal sovereignty' - when what is required is a guarantee of above poverty participation in the nation's economy, to 'close the gap'.

But as I said, the orthodox market economy is evil, and therein lies the problem.   

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Reply #164 - Jan 26th, 2022 at 9:06pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2022 at 9:39am:
The Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear two cases challenging racial preferences in admissions at Harvard and the University of North Carolina. Kudos to the Justices for taking this opportunity to vindicate equal treatment under the law regardless of race, especially when the left is pushing racial calculations into policies far beyond campus.

This also is a chance for the Court to correct its own mistakes. Racial quotas are forbidden, but in Grutter v. Bollinger (2003), a 5-4 majority endorsed the idea that race could be a “plus” factor to help colleges seek “the educational benefits that fl5ow from a diverse student body.” Yet there was an expiration date: “We expect that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today.”

That deadline is almost here. But two decades later the progressive zeal for divvying up people by race, ethnicity and sexuality has increased. Colleges have begun hosting specific graduation events for black, “Latinx” or LGBT students. Some dorms provide optional “affinity housing.” States and hospitals lately have written race into their policies for allocating scarce Covid-19 treatments. The old goal of “equality” is now passe on the left, which wants “equity,” which means unequal treatment in an attempt to achieve equal results.

Also, what is the limit on a racial plus factor? Students for Fair Admissions, the petitioner in both cases, says Harvard admits 56.1% of black applicants in the top academic decile, compared with 31.3% of Hispanics, 15.3% of whites, and 12.7% of Asians. A black applicant who’s in the fourth-lowest decile, it adds, “has a higher chance of admission (12.8%) than an Asian American in the top decile.”

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i agree this culture/race crap is dispiriting...but such 'identity politics' follows the Left's failure to confront the real villain in the piece, namely, the current evil economic orthodoxy which forces everyone to compete in the free-market economy,   regardless of ability and circumstance. [I've already addressed the point that welfare is a disastrous cop-out proffered by the current evil economic orthodoxy].

As to the OP's  heading:"Racial and cultural diversity-bad for any country", it is plain wrong. Who among us can't enjoy those fabulous Greek or Indian festivals...? Or even - for those who appreciate dance - aboriginal-derived dance theatre?

What IS wrong is trying to establish a separate identity for aboriginals in Oz - aka 'aboriginal sovereignty' - when what is required is a guarantee of above poverty participation in the nation's economy, to 'close the gap'.

But as I said, the orthodox market economy is evil, and therein lies the problem.   




You: a common cause and solidarity is not as good as a diverse cause and fragmented solidarity.

Why am I not surprised that you ask such stupid questions and that you need the obvious spelled out for you?
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