https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/alchemy-of-energy-breakthrough...

All you gotta do is tap your heels three times and believe.
I'm the Tin Man, Aquascoot is the Straw Man and Bojack is the Lion. Monk can be your little Toto if you like? Only a heartless Tin Man like me could post such a thing right? Let alone call you Dorothy, right?

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:11pm:




Werent you crapping on about hydrogen?

Is BH speaking in tongues ?

Now now Jasin, don't be too harsh on BH, as he is just a mild mannered armchair arm waver looking for a bit of a giggle every now and again.

Discussion about technical and scientific stuff gives him goose bumps.

Still, he is trying, as Hydrogen is very much in the news these days as it is obviously the fuel of the future as it will allow large trucks to produce zero pollution in the cities.

Large diesel trucks hauling containers from the wharves are a major cause of diesel pollution in the cities such as Los Angeles.

Now watch an Hydrogen BIG Truck running pollution free:-

  https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/774267360923648881/




Toyota unveils Project Portal 2.0 hydrogen fuel-cell semi truck. And now you can sleep in it!
Andrew Krok  July 31, 2018 8:15 a.m. P

It doesn't look that different than Project Portal 1.0, with the exception of the sleeper cab. All the trick tech is hidden under its skin, anyhow.


Toyota's efforts in developing hydrogen fuel-cell powertrains aren't limited to passenger cars -- it's also working to make semis a bit greener.

Toyota has unveiled the second iteration of its Project Portal hydrogen fuel-cell electric semi truck. The first version, which started testing last April, was created as a skunkworks project and made it from concept to production in just about a year, with Toyota's engineers working out of a garage in Michigan.

Project Portal gets its power from a pair of hydrogen fuel-cell stacks borrowed from the Mirai sedan. Combined with a 12-kWh battery, the truck put out an impressive 670-plus horsepower and 1,325 pound-feet of torque. Its total combined weight rating is a hefty 80,000 pounds. The first version's range was about 200 miles, but this second version pushes that range north of 300 miles. The new Project Portal also packs a sleeper cab and a revised powertrain that boosts cab space without requiring a longer wheelbase.

Project Portal 2.0 will begin its drayage work this fall. The pioneering variant has already clocked more than 10,000 miles as it transported goods over short distances in and around the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles. As with every other hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle, the only emissions byproduct is pure potable water, although I don't blame you if you're not comfortable enough to pour a glass and take a sip of tailpipe juice.

Toyota was wise to focus on improving drayage. As the automaker notes, more than 43,000 diesel trucks work at ports across the US, with the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles comprising more than one-third of that total. Replacing these polluting diesels with cleaner hydrogen-based power could go a long way in reducing local particulate emissions. Toyota hopes that its efforts can contribute to a complete elimination of carbon-dioxide emissions at its Port of Long Beach facility by 2050.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/toyota-project-portal-2-hydrogen-fuel-cell-se...

BH you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. It is not your fault you are like you are.

Oh yes to a very high level.  Not quite sure what you specialized in but it doesn't seem to be anything technical or scientific.

Perhaps Religion or Cooking or Disease Transmission or Arts ?

juliar wrote on Jul 8^th, 2020 at 5:03pm:



I currently teach anatomy, physiology, pathophysiology, microbiology, immunology, pharmacology.

My research background was materials chemistry and cancer pharmacology.

Depends on the flexibility of thinking.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 8^th, 2020 at 5:14pm:




Sure you might be 'formally' educated. But so far, you show little of what you know. You're just a 'process worker', not an original thinker. You can only follow a path that others (institutions) have set out for you. You can't cut your own path, because of your 'fear' of making a mistake. Diddums.

I may be 'down under' you Bojack, but I will always be a 'day ahead' of you. In the case of Immunology for Cancer, I seemed to have been decades ahead of you.

No offence Bojack. But from what you seem to be offering (not much) - we're not interested.

I reckon Bojack's lectures have the most 'sleep study' students (and they're not even listening to Ambient music).

See. Juliar can do it, why can't you Bojack.
Stand up like you've got a pair!

You see Jasin, if Dr BH types Google he gets goose bumps.

Immunotherapy looks like a fertile field for Quacks.





Understanding Immunotherapy
Approved by the Cancer.Net Editorial Board, 05/2020

Immunotherapy is a type of cancer treatment that boosts the body’s natural defenses to fight cancer. It uses substances made by the body or in a laboratory to improve how your immune system works to find and destroy cancer cells.

How does the immune system fight cancer?
Your immune system consists of a complex process your body uses to fight illness. This process involves your cells, organs, and proteins. Cancer can commonly get around many of the immune system’s natural defenses, allowing cancer cells to continue to grow.

Different types of immunotherapy work in different ways. Some immunotherapy treatments help the immune system stop or slow the growth of cancer cells. Others help the immune system destroy cancer cells or stop the cancer from spreading to other parts of the body. Immunotherapy treatments can be used alone or combined with other cancer treatments.



Monoclonal antibodies and tumor-agnostic treatments, such as checkpoint inhibitors

Oncolytic virus therapy

T-cell therapy

Cancer vaccines



https://www.cancer.net/navigating-cancer-care/how-cancer-treated/immunotherapy-a...

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 8^th, 2020 at 5:14pm:


He 'specialises' in bovine scatology........

Because immunotherapy depends on hope and a wing and a prayer as there is no guarantee that it will work and it might even cause various side effects.

A patient, desperate for a cure, will grasp even a nettle and this is where the quacks come in feeding on the patient's desperation and the quack doesn't have to guarantee that it will work.


There is an odor of ancient witch craft about this.



Cancer Immunotherapy
December 5-6, 2018 | Dubai, UAE Saturday, September 1, 2018                                                

Immunotherapy is a treatment that uses certain parts of a man's invulnerable framework to battle illnesses, for example, growth.

Immunotherapy utilizes our resistant framework to battle growth.

It works by helping the invulnerable framework perceive and assault malignancy cells. A few kinds of immunotherapy are additionally called focused on medications or organic treatments or biotherapy.

This can be done in a couple of ways:
Stimulating your own immune system to work harder or smarter to attack cancer cells
Giving your immune system components, such as man-made immune system proteins

Immunotherapy incorporates medications that work in various ways.

Some lift the body's safe framework in an exceptionally broad manner.

Others help prepare the safe framework to assault malignancy cells particularly.

Immunotherapy works better for a few sorts of malignancy than for others.

It's utilized independent from anyone else for a portion of these growths, yet for others, it appears to work better when utilized with different sorts of treatment.

Natural treatment is a kind of treatment that utilizations substances produced using living beings to treat malignancy.

Read on here

http://cancertargets.blogspot.com/2018/09/cancer-immunotherapy.html

When it is described as "natural" treatment, one's suspicions are immediately aroused as visions of anti-vaxxers float past exposing babies to diseases like whooping cough at whooping cough parties to make them immune.

One imagines this would be a favorite with Indian "doctors" fleecing people.

This stuff is quite complex.




Fig. 1. Immuno suppressive regulators in tumor micro environment.

Tumors escape immunes or tumor immunity can be suppressed by various cell types including tumor cells, stromal cells and numerous soluble mediators such as arginase, prostaglandin E2, TGF-β, IDO, adenosine and NOS TGF-β, IDO and IL-10 suppress the activity of T cells and natural killer cells as well as cause the ex of DCs, CD4+and CD8+T cells.

Moreover, due to changes in epigenetic machinery of tumor celecules (CD80/CD86) is down-regulated which prevents successful antigen presentation and tumors that engage PD-1 receptor on the surface of activated T cell which cause the energy and exhaustion prevents antigen presentation.

Collectively, tumors escape immune surveillance via inhibitory

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Nanoparticulate-immunotherapy-for-cancer.-...

Cold and Flu are good for you.
K.I.S.S
...unless you're a fragile little eggshell hypochondriac dependent on an assortment of licorice all-sort pills provided by Pharma Internationals.

No money to be made in the Cold & Flu angle and puts a lot of lab-rats out of work. 

juliar wrote on Jul 9^th, 2020 at 8:55pm:


About the same as I do you. All bullshite.

I bring them to you to dissect and anal-yse them. 

Is clean Hydrogen a lop eared wonky Greeny's dream come true ?


GREEN MACHINE: HOW HYDROGEN IS POWERING THE RIGHT BUS FOR THE PLANET
Marcus Roberts Thursday 5 December 2019 17:23


Powered up: one of the best new features of the buses will be USB charging points for phones and laptops

Next year, Transport for London (TfL) will roll out the gas-powered double deckers across three of its central routes – good news for passengers and those who have to breathe in the capital’s air on a daily basis, says Marcus Roberts

Cities all over the world are setting ever more ambitious targets for carbon neutrality and air quality – often ahead of national and international authorities. London is no exception, and is planning to pioneer cutting-edge technology – the world’s first hydrogen fuel cell double decker buses (single deckers are already on the streets).

These are electric, but unlike battery-powered vehicles that use lithium-ion batteries that require recharging, such as Nissan Leaf, say, the Tesla range or BMW i3, they use a chemical reaction “on board” to create the electricity that powers the motors, so the wheels on the bus go round and round, as the nursery song goes.




Ryse and Wrightbus have won a 10-year contract from TfL to convert 20 buses to run on hydrogen (Wrightbus)

Incidentally, one of the best new features of the buses will be USB charging points for phones and laptops, making buses more convenient for their users.

The company that will be making the new hydrogen buses for TfL is Wrightbus of Northern Ireland, which went bust this year and has been rescued by Jo Bamford, of the JCB family fame.

Wrightbus made the innovative and distinctive (but not entirely successful) new Routemasters that can still be seen on the streets of the capital – the so-called Boris Bus. By buying the company which makes the buses, Bamford believes he can leverage the expertise of his own company, Ryse Hydrogen, to help decarbonise London’s buses by 2030. Indeed, before Wrightbus went into administration in September, it had been planning to work with Ryse Hydrogen to create London’s first hydrogen-powered double decker.

Ryse is already an important player in this emerging technology. The company says it is on track to become the leading green and affordable hydrogen supplier in the UK, and with the contract to supply TfL with the first hydrogen London buses is on track with the mission to decarbonise the entire UK’s bus fleet within the next decade.




Hydrogen technology is an important part of the solution to carbon emissions, says Jo Bamford (TfL)

Air quality would be a major beneficiary of the new technologies being applied to public transport – and essential to meeting the World Health Organisation’s air quality guidelines by 2030.



Carbon dioxide from cars, buses and other transport traps heat in the atmosphere, preventing it from escaping from the Earth, adding to climate change and more severe weather patterns – hurricanes, floods, droughts and so on.



https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/hydrogen-powered-buses-tfl-wri...

A topic close to the Socialists' hearts.



This company is using a wastewater byproduct to fuel an Australian-first hydrogen project
Charlotte Barkla by Charlotte Barkla  June 17, 2020 in Energy


Biogas digesters. Source: Hazer presentation.

Western Australia (WA) may soon be a world-leader in hydrogen production, with a project to produce low-emission hydrogen and graphite from sewage set to launch next year.



The $16.65 million project uses technology first developed at The University of Western Australia, and later acquired by Hazer Group. It involves excess biogas – primarily composed of methane and carbon dioxide – being converted into low-emission hydrogen and graphite, using an iron ore catalyst.

The hydrogen produced could be used for vehicle fuel and chemical feedstock, while the graphite could be used in the production of lithium-ion batteries, water purification and advanced materials.

“This is a marvellous application of the Hazer process onto renewable biomass, with the carbon being sequestered as solid graphitic carbon, which has potential applications in batteries,” said Professor Chua from UWA’s School of Engineering, who led the initial research.


The Hazer process

“It is heartening that UWA technology is assisting with the Australian economy, especially in the renewable energy sector, in terms of generating employment and building resilience toward a low-emission future.”

Under the recent agreement, delivery of biogas is scheduled to begin in 2021 and continue for three years. Western Australia Regional Development Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the project was well-aligned with the state’s Renewable Hydrogen Strategy.

“Hydrogen is an increasingly important renewable fuel source, and this world-leading project will showcase our State’s capability in the hydrogen industry through the commercialisation of a technology developed right here in WA,” MacTiernan said.

“This initiative represents an important first step towards kick-starting renewable hydrogen production capacity and driving the use of zero-emissions transport fuel for buses, heavy trucking, waste collection, and light vehicle fleets.”

https://www.createdigital.org.au/wastewater-byproduct-fuel-australian-first-hydr...

Another ref:-  https://reneweconomy.com.au/w-a-backs-wastewater-hydrogen-project-using-australi...

Now they are proposing converting existing petrol and diesel car engines to running on hydrogen just like the LPG conversions. The Hydrogen Energy Revolution is just around the corner.

The electric fan boys and girls are scowling in their unsafe dead end dud electric inconveniences as they wait 3 hours in the queue at the recharge station.



Hydrogen for all the cars
30 June, 2020


Hydrogen for all the people.

There is a growing demand for hydrogen fuelling networks, following the introduction of commercial Fuel Cell Electrical Vehicles from most leading car manufacturers, although according to the principles of the circular economy, there are millions of cars in circulation around the world using internal combustion engines, namely Otto and Diesel Cycles.




TecnoVeritas was awarded an R&D project under Portugal 2020, with such purpose. The project named GreenH2ICE, as the name indicates is all about the production of Green hydrogen to be used by Internal Combustion Engines, allowing a fast, but also an economic penetration of hydrogen and a drastic reduction of carbon dioxide emissions.


The objectives behind the project are, the production of one high-efficiency electrolyser, capable of operating from renewable sources, eventually installed in or in the vicinity of the service stations, to supply hydrogen as a fuel to cars.

A second objective was the research and development of a conversion system to get the car converted at a price not much bigger than that of converting it to LPG.

The car to demonstrate the concept is a DACIA, equipped with Otto cycle internal combustion engine. The system developed, allow the use of gasoline as before or hydrogen as required, so hydrogen can be used inside the cities while ensuring an outstanding autonomy.

Also, with Diesel engines, a system was developed to allow the use of hydrogen, however, this is still under adjustments, it is possible to be available shortly. In short, the systems allow the vehicle to be dual or multi-fuel.

Hydrogen as Natural gas is suffering from the “chicken and egg” problem, but we at TecnoVeritas are convinced, that this is the way to make to happen, by creating users, for the deployment of more and more hydrogen fuelling stations, therefore spurring the decarbonisation as well as the circular economy.

The project congregated several different pieces of knowledge, namely, mechanical, electronics, chemistry, electricity, and legal.

Regarding the legal, knowledge, it is interesting to refer that EU has its laws and regulations (2007/46/CE) for the use of hydrogen as a “fuel” for internal combustion engines since 2007, however, when hydrogen is referred as a vehicular “fuel” it is immediate its association to Fuel Cells.

As, internal combustion engines are very well known for more than one century, and therefore incorporate a multitude of technological improvements, they are now in some applications achieving thermal efficiencies slightly above 50%, which are in the same magnitude as the fuel cells, except with higher reliability to offer, so there are no reasons not to consider them as an option along with the fuel cells.

So right now, TecnoVeritas is capable of integrating hydrogen in existing gas stations networks, or establishing entirely new hydrogen fuelling networks, with on-site and/or centralized hydrogen production depending on the project economics. TecnoVeritas can build it all – from production to distribution.

https://www.tecnoveritas.net/media/articles/hydrogen-for-all-the-cars/?fbclid=Iw...

Another Socialist knocker and mocker who knows very very little about hydrogen cars. Quite normal as they resent anything they did not think of. The Not Invented Here (NIH) syndrome tinged with a dash of jealousy.

The hydrogen storage thing was solved by Toyota some years ago. It is NOT liquid hydrogen at all.

LPG cars have been running around for quite some years now with no problems.

The dead end dud electrical inconveniences have a heavy Lithium Ion battery which is prone to explode in a fiery inferno releasing clouds of poisonous gas during charging or subject to a sudden jolt.

The simple FACT that hydrogen buses and trains and trucks etc are being increasingly used around the world to cut pollution is surely testament that they are quite safe.

In the mean time the rest of the enlightened world including Australia rushes to embrace the pollution free hydrogen Energy Revolution.

The simple reason hydrogen is the favorite choice is because hydrogen can be used to replace polluting diesel trucks and produce the same or more HP and the same or more range with quick refuel.

No little mousepower dangerous unsafe Lithium Ion battery can do that. But Socialists are generally technically agnostic.

Suitably ticked off ajax whimpers a few excuses. But he is forgiven for not knowing everything as the Hydrogen Energy Revolution is creeping up everywhere all around the world and most people misled by Greeny and GetUp! and Musky propaganda are not even aware of it.

The simple driving force around the world is POLLUTION in the big cities caused largely by diesel pollution especially from big trucks moving freight.

The ONLY thing holding Hydrogen back is simply infrastructure. The truck impetus will accelerate the hydrogen infrastructure and once it is established then hydrogen cars will follow as the dangerous unsafe pollution spewing electric inconveniences go into the junk yards just like back in the 1800's.

Hydrogen infrastructure now is at the same stage that petrol and diesel infrastructure was back in the 1800's after the invention of the starter motor which spelled the death of the electric cars at that time.

Nowadays hydrogen is stored at pressure in the vehicle tanks just like LPG. The tanks are not metal and are a special design perfected by Toyota.

For export to Japan and Sth Korea hydrogen is converted to ammonia which is easily handled and then converted back for use.


How the HUGE Hydrogen fuel and export industry is taking place in Australia. It is BIG and worth billions!!!



And SA is going full bore getting its hydrogen economy going.

Hydrogen Park South Australia Takes Shape
17 Apr 2020  by Joanna Sampson   

Australia’s largest renewable gas project Hydrogen Park South Australia (Hyp SA) is starting to take shape.



Based at the Tonsley Innovation District in Adelaide, the $11.4m demonstration project, delivered and funded by Australian Gas Networks (AGN), will produce renewable hydrogen using water and renewable electricity through electrolysis from mid-2020.

The project will demonstrate the feasibility of blending hydrogen into the South Australian gas network and inform the South Australian Government’s planning to transition the gas distribution network.

AGN will supply more than 700 properties in the nearby suburb of Mitchell Park with a blend of 5% renewable hydrogen in natural gas, delivered through the existing gas network.

Australian energy and infrastructure services company Valmec is currently completing the concrete works for the electrolyser shed slab foundation and the stand-alone foundations for the balance of plant supporting packages.

The next phase of the project involves the construction of the electrolyser shed and the positioning of supporting packages on the foundations.

Once operational, the facility is set to produce renewable hydrogen by mid-2020, for blending with natural gas, and supply to nearby properties via the existing gas network as part of a five-year demonstration.

https://www.world-energy.org/article/8405.html



Now how hydrogen is stored on a vehicle.


HYDROGEN COMPRESSED STORED GAS



Compressed hydrogen in hydrogen tanks at 350 bar (5,000 psi) and 700 bar (10,000 psi) is used for mobile hydrogen storage in hydrogen vehicles. It is used as a fuel gas.

Compressed hydrogen is a storage form where hydrogen gas is kept under pressures to increase the storage density. Compressed hydrogen in hydrogen tanks at 350 bar (5,000 psi) and 700 bar (10,000 psi) is used for hydrogen tank systems in vehicles, based on type IV carbon-composite technology. Car manufacturers have been developing this solution, such as Honda or Nissan.

Hydrogen gas has good energy density by weight, but poor energy density by volume versus hydrocarbons, hence it requires a larger tank to store. A large hydrogen tank will be heavier than the small hydrocarbon tank used to store the same amount of energy, all other factors remaining equal. Increasing gas pressure would improve the energy density by volume, making for smaller, but not lighter container tanks. Compressed hydrogen is estimated to cost about 2.1% of the energy content to power the compressor for a large scale underground facility such as an underground cavern or aquifer from 1 to 200 bar. Higher compression without energy recovery will mean more energy lost to the compression step. Compressed hydrogen storage can exhibit very low permeation.

The first type IV hydrogen tanks for compressed hydrogen at 700 bars (70 MPa; 10,000 psi) were demonstrated in 2001, the first fuel cell vehicles on the road with type IV tanks are the Toyota FCHV, Mercedes-Benz F-Cell and the GM HydroGen4.

Various applications have allowed the development of different H2 storage scenarios. Recently, the Hy-Can consortium has introduced a small one liter, 10 bars (1.0 MPa; 150 psi) format. Horizon Fuel Cells is now selling a refillable 3 megapascals (30 bar; 440 psi) metal hydride form factor for consumer use called HydroStik.



http://www.change-climate.com/Renewables/Hydrogen_Compressed_Gas_Storage_Technol...

Thanks Juliar for proving my point.

You will be sitting on a cryogenic bomb......!

70 bar that is equivalent to approximately 70 atmospheres at -240 degrees Celsius.

I have always considered LPG tanks a bomb and they work at 17.6 bar -42 degrees Celsius.

I hope you now understand what will be under your arse when you are driving around with a H2 fuel tank.........

Hydrogen is the future. A true zero emissions tech, especially if the sun is used to generate it.

But, and I know this will trigger Juliar, it's an emerging tech that's been held down time and time again by established energy and it has some massive technological hurdles to overcome, and safety is one of them.

It's not a reason not to try, but Juliar, at least for once don't be so afraid of reality.

juliar wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 8:58pm:


I'm convinced you don't read anything anymore do you... You just see who posted and copy/paste your trolling remarks...

As usual, I was agreeing with you and you're still being a dick head.

Well done.

For a section of the forum that is dealing with Technology, you don't actually want to talk about the technology, you just want t platform to post what you like, make statements about it based on your opinion and then end the discussion.

Go start a wordpress blog, this is not the right platform for you princess.

The inevitable Socialist mockers and knockers are out and about. Contribute nothing understand nothing just mock and knock and attack the poster they hate.

But ignoring the Socialist hate and back to the topic of the Glorious hydrogen energy revolution that the world is embracing.
Hydrogen is like the rebirth of oil.

Of course the electric Fan Boys and Girls are incensed that they have been conned into buying dead end dud electric inconveniences that will plummet in value assuming the lithium ion battery does not explode first.

The efficiency of hydrogen as a storage for surplus renewable energy is vastly better than the silly little tiny batteries that last for only a few minutes and waste 90% of the energy available as the capacity of hydrogen is limited only by the size of the storage tanks.



Hydrogen to become gamechanger as large-scale source of cleaner power, reveals GlobalData
By Joanna Sampson on Jul 06, 2020



Hydrogen is likely to play a crucial role in clean energy transition in sectors such as transportation, buildings and power generation.

Interest in the use of hydrogen technology is increasing in a range of niche transport market segments, besides other applications.

In the short to medium term, hydrogen technology could be used to replace compressed natural gas (CNG) in some areas with minor changes to the existing infrastructure, says data and analytics company GlobalData.

GlobalData’s latest report, Thematic Research: Hydrogen, highlights that countries worldwide are striving to accelerate the development and use of hydrogen technology to tackle environmental concerns and enhance energy security.



“Currently, in the power industry, hydrogen accounts for less than 0.2% of electricity generation, mainly within the steel sector, petrochemical plants and refineries.”



“When it comes to long-term and large-scale energy storage, hydrogen – in the form of compressed gas, ammonia (NH3) or synthetic methane – has a role to play in balancing seasonal variations in electricity supply and demand from renewable energy sources.”



https://www.h2-view.com/story/hydrogen-to-become-gamechanger-as-large-scale-sour...

Genius. Human inventiveness.