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Jun 28th, 2020 at 10:33pm
 
Here is a 4 hour examination of the
U.S. Strategic Nuclear Policy.

It really is worth watching if you can allocate the time.
I've seen both 2 hour episodes.
It's a show for adults who want to understand what happened.
You will see the insanity of the world we live in.
It's amazing we're still here and even now
we are threatened by nuclear weapons.


U.S. Strategic Nuclear Policy, An Oral History, Part 1



U.S. Strategic Nuclear Policy, An Oral History, Part 2

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Reply #1 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:47pm
 
The question of making nuclear weapons safe -
an oxymoron.


Always/Never: The Quest for Safety, Control, and Survivability - Part 2


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Reply #2 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
Here is a 4 hour examination of the
U.S. Strategic Nuclear Policy.




Are you seriously expecting anyone to watch a 4 hour youtube video

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Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 7:03pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
Here is a 4 hour examination of the
U.S. Strategic Nuclear Policy.




Are you seriously expecting anyone to watch a 4 hour youtube video

Grin Grin Grin




It's 2   two hour videos.
I did say it was for adults.
Did you really expect 40 to 60 years of history
to be explained in a 5 minute video?

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Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 8:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:47pm:
The question of making nuclear weapons safe -
an oxymoron.


Always/Never: The Quest for Safety, Control, and Survivability - Part 2






I should have posted this one first:

Always/Never: The Quest for Safety, Control, and Survivability - Part 1



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Reply #5 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:23pm
 
What happened to Star Wars?

Reagan's Shield War And Peace In The Nuclear Age

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Reply #6 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 8:02am
 
'The Day After' Nuclear War/Deterrence Discussion Panel -
ABC News 'Viewpoint' (November 20 1983)



The panel, moderated by Ted Koppel, consists of (in no particular order):
- Carl Sagan (notable and distinguished scientist and an authority on the topic of Nuclear Winter)
- William F. Buckley Jr. (noted conservative political commentator, publisher of the National Review)
- Robert S. McNamara (United States Secretary of Defense to Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson)
- Henry Kissinger (National Security Adviser and later Secretary of State for President Richard Nixon)
- Brent Scowcroft (National Security Adviser for President Gerald Ford, and later National Security Adviser for President George H.W. Bush)
- Elie Wiesel (Nobel Peace Prize recipient and Holocaust survivor)
and a brief interview with George Shultz (then-Secretary of State to President Ronald Reagan at the time of the broadcast)

Again, this panel is extremely intriguing into the subject of nuclear war, the effects of it, the danger of it, nuclear deterrence and how it connects to the former subjects, tensions between the East and West, and various other things - all within the context of a time where all of these things were very present, very real realities that everyone living in that time had to live with and accept. I hope it's as intriguing to you all as it was to me.


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Reply #7 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 8:17am
 
Here's the good news -
the number of active nuclear weapons has decreased
from 70,000 down to about 10,000.


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https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/status-world-nuclear-forces/


By Hans M. Kristensen and Matt Korda
[Current update: April 2020] The number of nuclear weapons in the world has declined significantly since the Cold War: down from a peak of approximately 70,300 in 1986 to an estimated 13,410 in early-2020. Government officials often portray that accomplishment as a result of current or recent arms control agreements, but the overwhelming portion of the reduction happened in the 1990s. Some also compare today’s numbers with that of the 1950s, but that is like comparing apples and oranges; today’s forces are vastly more capable. The pace of reduction has slowed significantly compared with the 1990s. Instead of planning for nuclear disarmament, the nuclear-armed states appear to plan to retain large arsenals for the indefinite future, are adding new nuclear weapons, and are increasing the role that such weapons play in their national strategies.
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Reply #8 - Jul 1st, 2020 at 12:38am
 
Here's another great video which talks of modern times
and looks ahead to the future:






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On Deterrence is a documentary that presents a contemporary dialogue involving different viewpoints about the evolution of nuclear weapon deterrence since World War II and how deterrence may evolve in the future. The intent of this film is not to advocate any one viewpoint, but to make a lasting contribution to the history of deterrence and to the long-term dialogue about the role of U.S. nuclear weapons as a deterrent.

The film features interviews from more than 30 experts, including: National Nuclear Security Administration head Gen. Frank Klotz; Ploughshares Fund president Joseph Cirincione; former U.S. senators Sam Nunn of Georgia and Jon Kyl of Arizona; Carnegie Endowment for International Peace senior associates Ashley Tellis and James Acton; former secretaries of defense James Schlesinger, Robert Gates and William Perry; former Los Alamos National Laboratory director Sig Hecker; Stanford University senior fellow Scott Sagan; and Rose Gottemoeller, former under secretary for Arms Control and International Security at the State Department
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2020 at 6:51am
 
I worry that nuclear weapons will be used in the next great war -
especially depth charges at sea.


Consider the captain of a an aircraft carrier -
US $13 billion + the cost of aircraft etc -\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Ford-class_aircraft_carrier

Then consider 5,000 crew aboard.

Lets' say the captain is convinced that an enemy sub is going to sink it -
and there's no time for conventional weapons.

He would be negligent if he didn't use a nuclear depth charge to do the job.


This is what would happen:






Also - the Chinese might do the same if an Australian sub
is too close to one of their carriers.
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Reply #10 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 1:45pm
 
Australia has been nuked 12 times.


The United Kingdom conducted 12 major nuclear weapons tests in Australia between 1952 and 1957. These explosions occurred at the Montebello Islands, Emu Field and Maralinga.


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/14/australia/australia-uk-nuclear-tests-annivers...

Australia is still dealing with the legacy of the UK's nuclear bomb tests, 65 years on

By James Griffiths, CNN

Updated 0016 GMT (0816 HKT) October 15, 2018




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"Ultimately, they settled on Australia, which had many benefits," said Elizabeth Tynan, author of "Atomic Thunder: The Maralinga story," a book about the tests. These includes a sympathetic, compliant government under the recently elected Anglophile Prime Minister Robert Menzies, and wide open spaces in which to carry out the detonations themselves.
In September 1950, British leader Clement Attlee sent Menzies a secret message asking whether his government "would be prepared in principle to agree that the first United Kingdom atomic weapon should be tested in Australian territory."
According to a later Australian Royal Commission investigation, Menzies "immediately agreed to the proposal," without consulting any of his cabinet colleagues or the Australian parliament. Indeed, until weeks before the first test was carried out, only three government ministers knew about it.
Menzies' enthusiasm for the British bomb "wasn't all sycophantism, it wasn't all sucking up to his colonial masters," said Tynan, though this was definitely a factor. The Australian leader also saw in the atomic age an advantage for his country, which was one of the few to have large stocks of uranium, a previously largely unwanted material.
The UK's first atomic bomb was detonated in the waters off the Montebello Islands, a small archipelago in north western Australia, in the early hours of October 3, 1952, officially making London the third member of the nuclear club, after the US and the Soviet Union.


Unlike the Montebello test, which went off largely as planned, the 9.1 kiloton Totem I sent a cloud of debris and smoke some 15,000 feet (4,500 meters) into the air, spreading fallout far higher and farther than originally expected.
The Royal Commission later found the test was carried out in inappropriate wind conditions and without proper consideration for people living nearby, examples of the often staggering lack of care taken by British officials overseeing the nuclear program, who frequently ignored or did not bother to seek out vital information about the potential effects of their tests on the host country.
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Reply #11 - Jul 10th, 2020 at 4:44pm
 
I'm surprised I didn't get a single comment on this thread.
I really tried to make an informative guide.

I suppose it's not something we want to think about
as it's just so awful?
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Reply #12 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 2:11pm
 
Even those with 2 bob between the ears today know that the Earth is too small for a nuclear war.

The detonation of 16 nuclear bombs (hydrogen bombs) in a short space of time will change the Earth for ever as we know it now.

As for the British and their nuclear tests here.

They should be made to fix the hole in the ozone layer above Australia.
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Reply #13 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 2:23pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 2:11pm:
Even those with 2 bob between the ears today know that the Earth is too small for a nuclear war.

The detonation of 16 nuclear bombs (hydrogen bombs) in a short space of time will change the Earth for ever as we know it now.

As for the British and their nuclear tests here.

They should be made to fix the hole in the ozone layer above Australia.




There have been a lot more tests than that
and we're still here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

There have been 2,121 tests done since the first in July of 1945, involving 2,476 nuclear devices. As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 megaton (Mt): 217 Mt from pure fission and 328 Mt from bombs using fusion, while the estimated number of underground nuclear tests conducted in the period from 1957 to 1992 is 1,352 explosions with a total yield of 90 Mt.[1]
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Reply #14 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 2:34pm
 
I did say in short space of time.

This will kick up enough dust to start the nuclear winter.

As for nuclear testing I think its criminal.

And lest not forget the indigenous people of Australia that coped the fall out.
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Reply #15 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 3:23pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
I did say in short space of time.

This will kick up enough dust to start the nuclear winter.

As for nuclear testing I think its criminal.

And lest not forget the indigenous people of Australia that coped the fall out.



Yes - definitely criminal behaviour which allowed
unnatural radioactive isotopes to enter the food chain
and even to this day we are all contaminated from it.
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Reply #16 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 7:21am
 
J. Robert Oppenheimer - Address to the American Philosophical Society (1945)




Transcript:
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/robertoppenheimeratomicbomb.htm
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Reply #17 - Sep 2nd, 2020 at 10:03am
 
I always said that the Chinese cannot be trusted.
How many of those nukes will be aimed at us in Australia?
What will ScoMo do about it?


China is aiming to double the size of its nuclear arsenal,
Pentagon report says


By Ryan Browne, CNN

Updated 1628 GMT (0028 HKT) September 1, 2020

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/01/politics/china-military-power-report/index.ht...


Washington (CNN)China is attempting to at least double the number of nuclear warheads in its arsenal in the next decade and its military has already equaled or surpassed the United States in a series of key areas, according to a new Pentagon report released Tuesday.
It suggests that Beijing has made major strides in areas such as ship building, the development of ballistic and cruise missiles as well as integrated air defense systems.
The report detailing China's military capabilities comes amid mounting tensions between the Washington and Beijing over a range of issues, including Chinese military activities in the South China Sea and US-support to Taiwan. It's also published in the run up to the 2020 election as President Donald Trump is looking to make his increasingly aggressive stance towards Beijing a key campaign issue.


"Over the next decade, China's nuclear warhead stockpile—currently estimated to be in the low- 200s—is projected to at least double in size as China expands and modernizes its nuclear forces," the report says, adding that the number of warheads on Chinese land-based Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that are "capable of threatening the United States is expected to grow to roughly 200 in the next five years."

"China's nuclear forces will significantly evolve over the next decade as it modernizes, diversifies, and increases the number of its land-, sea-, and air-based nuclear delivery platforms," the report said, adding that "China is pursuing a 'nuclear triad' with the development of a nuclear capable air-launched ballistic missile and improving its ground and sea-based nuclear capabilities."
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Reply #18 - Sep 2nd, 2020 at 11:54am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 10:03am:
I always said that the Chinese cannot be trusted.
How many of those nukes will be aimed at us in Australia?
What will ScoMo do about it?


China is aiming to double the size of its nuclear arsenal,
Pentagon report says


By Ryan Browne, CNN

Updated 1628 GMT (0028 HKT) September 1, 2020

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/01/politics/china-military-power-report/index.ht...


Washington (CNN)China is attempting to at least double the number of nuclear warheads in its arsenal in the next decade and its military has already equaled or surpassed the United States in a series of key areas, according to a new Pentagon report released Tuesday.
It suggests that Beijing has made major strides in areas such as ship building, the development of ballistic and cruise missiles as well as integrated air defense systems.
The report detailing China's military capabilities comes amid mounting tensions between the Washington and Beijing over a range of issues, including Chinese military activities in the South China Sea and US-support to Taiwan. It's also published in the run up to the 2020 election as President Donald Trump is looking to make his increasingly aggressive stance towards Beijing a key campaign issue.


"Over the next decade, China's nuclear warhead stockpile—currently estimated to be in the low- 200s—is projected to at least double in size as China expands and modernizes its nuclear forces," the report says, adding that the number of warheads on Chinese land-based Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that are "capable of threatening the United States is expected to grow to roughly 200 in the next five years."

"China's nuclear forces will significantly evolve over the next decade as it modernizes, diversifies, and increases the number of its land-, sea-, and air-based nuclear delivery platforms," the report said, adding that "China is pursuing a 'nuclear triad' with the development of a nuclear capable air-launched ballistic missile and improving its ground and sea-based nuclear capabilities."


You can blame Clinton the pedo on all of this. He was the one who put the chinks on the map when he brought them into the WTO !! They broke every rule in the rule book to get where they are today and the greedy West turned a blind eye because they were getting stuff made on the cheap. Now our day of reckoning is fast approaching Sad

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Reply #19 - Sep 2nd, 2020 at 11:57am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 11:54am:
You can blame Clinton the pedo on all of this. He was the one who put the chinks on the map when he brought them into the WTO !! They broke every rule in the rule book to get where they are today and the greedy West turned a blind eye because they were getting stuff made on the cheap. Now our day of reckoning is fast approaching Sad




ScoMo could go to the United Nations.
He could call for an arms treaty.
The military buildup is just like before WW2.

Instead ScoMo wants people to sell vitamins.
He's an idiot.

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 11:57am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 11:54am:
You can blame Clinton the pedo on all of this. He was the one who put the chinks on the map when he brought them into the WTO !! They broke every rule in the rule book to get where they are today and the greedy West turned a blind eye because they were getting stuff made on the cheap. Now our day of reckoning is fast approaching Sad




ScoMo could go to the United Nations.
He could call for an arms treaty.
The military buildup is just like before WW2.

Instead ScoMo wants people to sell vitamins.
He's an idiot.



No but scomo has a letter from the chinks like Neville Chamberlain did saying it's all ok so no need to panic Cheesy LOL
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Reply #21 - Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:08pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:05pm:
No but scomo has a letter from the chinks like Neville Chamberlain did saying it's all ok so no need to panic Cheesy LOL



At least Neville had a piece of paper.  Grin


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Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:05pm:
No but scomo has a letter from the chinks like Neville Chamberlain did saying it's all ok so no need to panic Cheesy LOL



At least Neville had a piece of paper.  Grin


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/54dd24_204d5a67abc849fb9e1d5f2e062f2c35~mv2.j...


And we know how much that piece of paper was worth. Cry
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Reply #23 - Sep 3rd, 2020 at 1:30pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 3rd, 2020 at 12:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 2nd, 2020 at 12:05pm:
No but scomo has a letter from the chinks like Neville Chamberlain did saying it's all ok so no need to panic Cheesy LOL



At least Neville had a piece of paper.  Grin


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/54dd24_204d5a67abc849fb9e1d5f2e062f2c35~mv2.j...


And we know how much that piece of paper was worth. Cry



It turned out to be worth nothing but
at least Neville tried to stop the upcoming war.
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Kim Jong Un has a nuclear missile
that he could aim at us:


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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/10/asia/north-korea-military-parade-new-missiles...


North Korea unveiled what analysts believe to be the world's largest liquid-fueled intercontinental ballistic missile at a parade in Pyongyang early Saturday.

Hong Kong (CNN)North Korea unveiled what analysts believe to be one of the world's largest ballistic missiles at a military parade celebrating the 75th anniversary of the Workers' Party broadcast on state-run television on Saturday.
The massive weapon was carried by an 11-axle truck at the climax of the almost two-hour ceremony and military parade in the capital of Pyongyang.
Analysts said the new missile is not known to have been tested, but a bigger weapon would allow North Korea to put multiple warheads on it, increasing the threat it would pose to any targeted foe.

"Largest *road-mobile* liquid-fueled missile anywhere, to be clear," tweeted Ankit Panda, senior fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
"Liquid fuel, Huuuuge, capable of carrying MIRV nuclear warheads," tweeted Melissa Hanham, deputy director of Open Nuclear Network at Stanford University.
"What North Korea has shown us, what appears to be a new liquid-fueled ICBM that seems to be a derivative of what was tested back in late 2017, known as the Hwasong-15, is much bigger and clearly more powerful than anything in the DPRK's arsenal," said Harry Kazianis, senior director of Korean studies at the Washington DC-based Center for the National Interest.

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Reply #26 - Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:47pm
 
We only live because Kim lets us live.

Send the dear leader flowers and presents.
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Reply #27 - Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 12:47pm:
Kim Jong Un has a nuclear missile
that he could aim at us:


So, he has one missile? Don't you think he has far more important targets to aim it at, Bobby?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 12:47pm:
Kim Jong Un has a nuclear missile
that he could aim at us:


So, he has one missile? Don't you think he has far more important targets to aim it at, Bobby?   Roll Eyes



How many more does he have?
How many will he make?
Pine Gap is the most important target in the world
and it's right here near Alice Springs.
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Reply #29 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:24am
 
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54500550


North Korea has unveiled a new ballistic missile whose "colossal" size has surprised even seasoned analysts of the country's arsenal. Defence expert Melissa Hanham explains what the missile is and why it is a threat to the US and the world.


On 1 January 2020, Mr Kim gave his annual New Year's address wherein he announced that North Korea was "developing the state-of-the-art weapons system possessed only by advanced countries".

He specifically referred to a "strategic" - meaning nuclear - weapons system under development.

Mr Kim pointedly tied the weapon to the US, stating "in the future, the more the US stalls for time and hesitates in the settlement of DPRK-US relations, the more helpless it will find itself before the might of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, which is growing stronger beyond prediction, and the deeper it will fall into an impasse".

    North Korea crisis in 300 words
    What does North Korea want?
    What we know about North Korea's missile programme

This new ICBM is Mr Kim's promised strategic weapon. It absolutely targets the US, and is delivered as a fait accompli in the face of failed negotiations with the Trump administration.
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:53pm:
So, he has one missile?



Poor Bwian. How did you arrive at that conclusion? Because he didn't parade any more? Grin Grin Grin Grin

"North Korean leader Kim Jong Un warned that his country would “fully mobilize” its nuclear force if threatened as he took center stage at a military parade that unveiled what appeared to be a new intercontinental ballistic missile and other weapons."

https://apnews.com/article/seoul-south-korea-north-korea-parades-kim-il-sung-754...

A nuclear force of one? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

How many ICBM's does he have? How many other missiles to be launched from Subs etc? Wink
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lee wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 1:53pm:
So, he has one missile?



Poor Bwian. How did you arrive at that conclusion? Because he didn't parade any more? Grin Grin Grin Grin

"North Korean leader Kim Jong Un warned that his country would “fully mobilize” its nuclear force if threatened as he took center stage at a military parade that unveiled what appeared to be a new intercontinental ballistic missile and other weapons."

https://apnews.com/article/seoul-south-korea-north-korea-parades-kim-il-sung-754...

A nuclear force of one? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

How many ICBM's does he have? How many other missiles to be launched from Subs etc? Wink



Kim has the power:


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Reply #32 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:17pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17823706

Hours before state media showed North Korean leader Kim Jong-un inspecting what it said was a hydrogen bomb.

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3 September 2017 - 'the biggest yet'

North Korea claimed it has successfully tested what the world has worried about - a miniaturised hydrogen bomb that could be loaded on to a long-range missile.

Seismic readings of 6.3 indicated the test was bigger than any other that has been conducted.

Some early estimates said that the test came in at about 100-150 kilotonnes, potentially 10 times larger than last time.

North Korean state media called it a "perfect success" and a "very meaningful step in completing the national nuclear weapons programme".
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Reply #33 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:22pm
 
Kim likes his missiles all painted in test markings.  I wonder why?  Perhaps because he hasn't test them recently.   Lee, you, like Bobby are a fool.  The DPRK has far more important targets for it's limited number of ICBMs than wasting them on Australia.

Oh, and the DPRK has not have any submarine launched SLBMs. It have a SLBM but no submarines capable of launching them.  Funny that.  Just for your information...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #34 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Kim likes his missiles all painted in test markings.  I wonder why?  Perhaps because he hasn't test them recently.   Lee, you, like Bobby are a fool.  The DPRK has far more important targets for it's limited number of ICBMs than wasting them on Australia.

Oh, and the DPRK has not have any submarine launched SLBMs. It have a SLBM but no submarines capable of launching them.  Funny that.  Just for your information...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian,
Kim murdered his brother and his cousins and many Generals and other people -
he's a murderer - he's a beast -
and now he has nukes that he can point at us
or our allies.
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Kim likes his missiles all painted in test markings.  I wonder why?  Perhaps because he hasn't test them recently.   Lee, you, like Bobby are a fool.  The DPRK has far more important targets for it's limited number of ICBMs than wasting them on Australia.

Oh, and the DPRK has not have any submarine launched SLBMs. It have a SLBM but no submarines capable of launching them.  Funny that.  Just for your information...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian,
Kim murdered his brother and his cousins and many Generals and other people -
he's a murderer - he's a beast -
and now he has nukes that he can point at us
or our allies.


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We are covered by the US Nuclear Umbrella, Bobby.  Any nuclear attack on us means the DPRK would be turned into a glass ash tray.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 10:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 10:04pm:
We are covered by the US Nuclear Umbrella, Bobby.
Any nuclear attack on us means the DPRK would be turned into a glass ash tray.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Are you sure Brian?
Trump has been accused of being an isolationist.
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Reply #37 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 10:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Lee, you, like Bobby are a fool.  The DPRK has far more important targets for it's limited number of ICBMs than wasting them on Australia.



Where did I say Australia was a target? Tsk, Tsk. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Oh, and the DPRK has not have any submarine launched SLBMs. It have a SLBM but no submarines capable of launching them.


"Yes, North Korea Does Have a Nuclear Missile Submarine"

"This marks the second ballistic missile submarine (SSB) deployed by Pyongyang since the Gorae-class Sinpo-B submarine test-fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) in 201(sic)."

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/yes-north-korea-does-have-nuclear-missile...

"‘Of great significance’: North Korea hails submarine launch of ballistic missile "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/03/of-great-significance-north-korea-...

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You do like to believe Propaganda, don't you, Lee?   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 11:09pm:
You do like to believe Propaganda, don't you, Lee?



Poor petal. is that the best you could do? Couldn't actually show it was propaganda only? Tsk, Tsk.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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We all have the residue of atomic tests in our bodies:


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Reply #41 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 4:34pm
 
I have been watching a program on Foxtel's History Channel called "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch". They mention all sorts of things, including nuclear bomb testing, disappearances, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch

https://play.history.com/shows/the-secret-of-skinwalker-ranch

I do not believe in "aliens" of any description and the strange things happening must be caused by something else - microwaves, electromagnetic radiation, etc.

Quote:
Microwaves are electromagnetic waves with wavelengths longer than those of terahertz (THz) wavelengths, but relatively short for radio waves. Microwaves have wavelengths approximately in the range of 30 cm (frequency = 1 GHz) to 1 mm (300 GHz).


Any "phenomena" like this and the Yanks immediately think of UFOs and Aliens trying to "observe" them and pinch their inventions, military secrets and so forth.  Grin 

I think it could have something to do with "the centre of the earth" or something, not being a scientist, that is just my thoughts others might think a lot difference though.
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Reply #42 - Oct 13th, 2020 at 4:56pm
 
Neferti wrote on Oct 13th, 2020 at 4:34pm:
I do not believe in "aliens" of any description and the strange things happening must be caused by something else - microwaves, electromagnetic radiation, etc.




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No not that bloke and his "aliens".
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Campaigners have hailed a "new chapter" after a key step by the United Nations towards banning nuclear arms.

Honduras has become the 50th country to ratify the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons so it will now come into force in 90 days time.

But what it will actually achieve remains in doubt because the five recognised nuclear powers have not signed the accord.

Supporters hope it will nevertheless have a deterrent effect.
What's in the treaty?

The accord was approved by 122 countries at the UN General Assembly in 2017 but needed to be ratified by at least 50 before being enacted.

It declares that those countries that ratify it must "never under any circumstances develop, test, produce, manufacture, otherwise acquire, possess or stockpile nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices".

    Who can have nuclear weapons?
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    Q&A: New Start

The treaty outlaws the use or threat to use nuclear arms, and bars signatories from allowing "any stationing, installation or deployment of any nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices" on their territory.
What has the reaction been?

The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (Ican) described the 50th ratification as heralding "a new chapter for nuclear disarmament".

Beatrice Fihn, the head of Ican, which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2017, said: "Decades of activism have achieved what many said was impossible: nuclear weapons are banned."

The president of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Peter Maurer, said: "Today is a victory for humanity, and a promise of a safer future."

A statement from the UN Secretary-General, Antonio Guterres, described the move as "a meaningful commitment towards the total elimination of nuclear weapons, which is the highest disarmament priority of the United Nations".

There has been no immediate reaction from the five main nuclear powers - the US, Russia, China, the UK and France. But the US and the UK made clear their opposition in 2017.


What is being done to eliminate them?

The Non-Proliferation Treaty, backed by 190 countries in 1970, commits countries which signed up, including the US, Russia, France the UK and China, to reducing their stockpiles and bars others from acquiring nuclear weapons.

India, Pakistan and Israel did not sign up and North Korea left in 2003. The US, Russia and the UK have been reducing their inventories.

Russia and the US are trying to extend their last remaining nuclear arms agreement which is due to expire in February.

New Start, signed in 2010, limits the number of long-range nuclear warheads each can possess to 1,550.

The US recently pulled out of another treaty, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty signed during the Cold War, after accusing Russia of violating it.
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Reply #45 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 6:12am
 
Australia hasn't signed the treaty.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Prohibition_of_Nuclear_Weapons

This is why:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-18/australia-shouldnt-sign-nuclear-ban-treat...

Australia could be dangerously exposed if we sign the nuclear ban treaty

By Ashley Townshend and Madelyn Creedon
Posted TueTuesday 18 DecDecember 2018 at 5:00am

Take the joint facilities at Pine Gap for example. Pine Gap has long provided early warning of ballistic missile attack as a ground station for satellites that scan the earth's surface for infrared signatures. Because satellite sensors have vastly improved, they can now also be used for fire detection, identifying aircraft accidents, and arms control.

But as the satellites that perform this work are an integral part of the US nuclear command and control system, Australia's ability to support them would be outlawed under the Ban Treaty, rendering Pine Gap useless.
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Reply #46 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 6:13am
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54680893


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Campaigners have hailed a "new chapter" after a key step by the United Nations towards banning nuclear arms.

Honduras has become the 50th country to ratify the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons so it will now come into force in 90 days time.

But what it will actually achieve remains in doubt because the five recognised nuclear powers have not signed the accord.

Supporters hope it will nevertheless have a deterrent effect.
What's in the treaty?

The accord was approved by 122 countries at the UN General Assembly in 2017 but needed to be ratified by at least 50 before being enacted.

It declares that those countries that ratify it must "never under any circumstances develop, test, produce, manufacture, otherwise acquire, possess or stockpile nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices".

    Who can have nuclear weapons?
    Is nuclear control set to self-destruct?
    Q&A: New Start

The treaty outlaws the use or threat to use nuclear arms, and bars signatories from allowing "any stationing, installation or deployment of any nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices" on their territory.
What has the reaction been?

The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (Ican) described the 50th ratification as heralding "a new chapter for nuclear disarmament".

Beatrice Fihn, the head of Ican, which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2017, said: "Decades of activism have achieved what many said was impossible: nuclear weapons are banned."

The president of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Peter Maurer, said: "Today is a victory for humanity, and a promise of a safer future."

A statement from the UN Secretary-General, Antonio Guterres, described the move as "a meaningful commitment towards the total elimination of nuclear weapons, which is the highest disarmament priority of the United Nations".

There has been no immediate reaction from the five main nuclear powers - the US, Russia, China, the UK and France. But the US and the UK made clear their opposition in 2017.


What is being done to eliminate them?

The Non-Proliferation Treaty, backed by 190 countries in 1970, commits countries which signed up, including the US, Russia, France the UK and China, to reducing their stockpiles and bars others from acquiring nuclear weapons.

India, Pakistan and Israel did not sign up and North Korea left in 2003. The US, Russia and the UK have been reducing their inventories.

Russia and the US are trying to extend their last remaining nuclear arms agreement which is due to expire in February.

New Start, signed in 2010, limits the number of long-range nuclear warheads each can possess to 1,550.

The US recently pulled out of another treaty, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty signed during the Cold War, after accusing Russia of violating it.
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Imagine a world where just x10 Nukes are exploded around the world and x10 Nuclear Radiation Clouds swirling around the world on the winds to spread out even more into other wind trajectories.
One wiff of that Radiation and your kids come out mangled and costly high care (unless you throw them in the pit like a Spartan).

If 100 Nukes are exploded - then Humanity is going to have a long sick recovery in 'sterile' environments worse than any Lock Down Melbournians could cry about.
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Reply #48 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 11:31am
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 26th, 2020 at 7:52am:
Imagine a world where just x10 Nukes are exploded around the world and x10 Nuclear Radiation Clouds swirling around the world on the winds to spread out even more into other wind trajectories.
One wiff of that Radiation and your kids come out mangled and costly high care (unless you throw them in the pit like a Spartan).

If 100 Nukes are exploded - then Humanity is going to have a long sick recovery in 'sterile' environments worse than any Lock Down Melbournians could cry about.


There have already been 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests

There have been 2,121 tests done since the first in July of 1945, involving 2,476 nuclear devices. As of 1993, worldwide, 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions (including 8 underwater) have been conducted with a total yield of 545 megaton (Mt): 217 Mt from pure fission and 328 Mt from bombs using fusion, while the estimated number of underground nuclear tests conducted in the period from 1957 to 1992 is 1,352 explosions with a total yield of 90 Mt.[1]
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Great doco -
first of a 7 part series all about nuclear weapons.
All 7 parts are on YouTube.

Going Nuclear - The Science Of Nuclear Weapons - Part 1 - Just a Theory








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Going Nuclear is a multi part series where I go into detail on how nuclear weapons work, looking deep at the science and explaining how some curious discoveries in the early 20th century lead to the most powerful weapons ever used in war, and how those were tuned and evolved into the smaller, more powerful modern weapons.

Part 1 covers the early experimental discoveries and how they provided the theoretical underpinnings to show that Atomic chain reactions would work and how that might lead to a new form of energy.
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