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Reply #150 - Jun 6^th, 2020 at 6:48pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2020 at 1:30am:

Frank wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

Muslims fund jihad. Muslims get money from 'halal certification'. Jihadists do not do ethical book-keeping. 'Halal certification' - and all other 'Islamic charities' - funnel money to jihad.

Jihad IS Islam's way of asserting itself. Halal certification is ONE way Islam funds its asserting itself through jihad. Halal certification IS jihad. All Muslims are jihadists. The shadow education minister in the NSW labor party is called jihad. Jihad is what Islam does.

Resisting their jihad - they call that 'Islamophobia'. You either go along with Islamic jihad - or you are a fearful hater, an 'Islamophobe. They - Muslims, Bwians, Pakis, Greens, SJWs etc - think you, non-Muslims, are stupid enough to be cowered by that assertion.

Interesting.

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So Muslims are not funding jihad, shitehead??

Only an unnamed percentage, dear boy. How many of your Ikea sales go towards the Anders Breivik Freedom fund?

Don't you dare say zero.

So now you are accusing IKEA to be funding murderers?
Can I send your post to their lawyers, arse bandit? You are only second to gweggy turd in evilness, paki.

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Reply #151 - Jun 7^th, 2020 at 9:49am

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 7:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:20pm:

Your own behaviour right here is evidence. If someone stole a million dollars from the AUF, and someone else told me not to ask where it went, I would assume something was up. You expect us to take you seriously when you assume the opposite. You are literally supporting the cover-up.

That is not evidence FD.

"the evidence that AFIC sends money to terrorists is....

gandalf doesn't want to speculate on where it went"

Have you ever heard anything so absurd?

My time away has clearly made you even more incoherent than you already were.

You did not merely refuse to speculate. You argued we should not try to find out where the money went and that there is no need to find out.

Again, are you seriously claiming this as some kind of "evidence"?

In what universe can this possibly make sense?

"evidence halal certifiers send money to terrorists is....
some random nobody on the internet is acting all slippery about his opinion on the matter"

say it to yourself out loud FD, you might get a sense of how mind-numbingly stupid it is.

And by the way, the discussion you refer to had nothing to do with halal fees, it was about state government funding of schools.

Not just you Gandalf. The entire Muslim community. This dragged on for years, and almost resulted in the closure of schools, they were so committed to being dodgy. I am yet to see a single Muslim demand the AFIC chase up what actually happened with the funds. They all parrot the same nonsense as you.

So final answer, what you first touted as "plenty" of evidence that halal certifiers send money to terrorists, turns out to be you throwing a hissy fit because you didn't hear of a single muslim demand that AFIC chase up what happened with government school funding that was deemed to be misused.

I doubt even the ideological dogmatism that you have so obviously submerged yourself in could prevent you realising how utterly childish and stupid such an attempt at an argument is.

Still, its probably a slight improvement on your previous "I'm sure the receipts are in order" argument.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51491 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #152 - Jun 7^th, 2020 at 10:02am You do this every single time Gandalf. You take one piece of evidence, try to misrepresent it as the entirety of the evidence, then complain that it is only one bit of evidence.
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Reply #153 - Jun 7^th, 2020 at 1:31pm

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2020 at 10:02am:

You take one piece of evidence, try to misrepresent it as the entirety of the evidence, then complain that it is only one bit of evidence.

And this is the bullshit routine you do every time FD - offer some variation of "gandalf gave the game away with his evasiveness" as your sole piece of evidence, and then pretend you actually had more than that.

We could go through every post you have made since your "there is plenty of evidence" post to see how exactly you have justified such a claim - if you really wanted to. Of course its possible that you do have some real evidence that you haven't revealed yet, but it would be strange that when given the opportunity to state it, you decide instead to lead with the face-palmingly stupid "well Gandalf sure acted evasive about it!"

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51491 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #154 - Jun 7^th, 2020 at 2:29pm I am just pointing out a logical fallacy you continually make Gandalf.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 53225 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #155 - Jun 7^th, 2020 at 6:29pm freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2020 at 10:02am: You do this every single time Gandalf. You take one piece of evidence, try to misrepresent it as the entirety of the evidence, then complain that it is only one bit of evidence. They teach that in Muslim Argument Skool.
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Reply #156 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 2:44am

Frank wrote on Jun 6^th, 2020 at 6:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2020 at 1:30am:

Frank wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

Muslims fund jihad. Muslims get money from 'halal certification'. Jihadists do not do ethical book-keeping. 'Halal certification' - and all other 'Islamic charities' - funnel money to jihad.

Jihad IS Islam's way of asserting itself. Halal certification is ONE way Islam funds its asserting itself through jihad. Halal certification IS jihad. All Muslims are jihadists. The shadow education minister in the NSW labor party is called jihad. Jihad is what Islam does.

Resisting their jihad - they call that 'Islamophobia'. You either go along with Islamic jihad - or you are a fearful hater, an 'Islamophobe. They - Muslims, Bwians, Pakis, Greens, SJWs etc - think you, non-Muslims, are stupid enough to be cowered by that assertion.

Interesting.

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

So Muslims are not funding jihad, shitehead??

Only an unnamed percentage, dear boy. How many of your Ikea sales go towards the Anders Breivik Freedom fund?

Don't you dare say zero.

So now you are accusing IKEA to be funding murderers?
Can I send your post to their lawyers, arse bandit? You are only second to gweggy turd in evilness, paki.

We've nearly finished the survey, FD. Here's the old boy's thoughts.

So far, the maths aren't looking good. G should be able to fill you in.

The old boy's still trying to come to terms with it. It's not easy.

He suffers from a gaseous anal fissure, you see, most painful.

Otherwise, he's really quite nice.

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #157 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 2:52am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2020 at 1:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2020 at 10:02am:

You take one piece of evidence, try to misrepresent it as the entirety of the evidence, then complain that it is only one bit of evidence.

And this is the bullshit routine you do every time FD - offer some variation of "gandalf gave the game away with his evasiveness" as your sole piece of evidence, and then pretend you actually had more than that.

We could go through every post you have made since your "there is plenty of evidence" post to see how exactly you have justified such a claim - if you really wanted to. Of course its possible that you do have some real evidence that you haven't revealed yet, but it would be strange that when given the opportunity to state it, you decide instead to lead with the face-palmingly stupid "well Gandalf sure acted evasive about it!"

You're right, G. FD may still have the evidence.

I guess we'll never know.

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #158 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 4:56pm

I believe I know!

Given that terrorism is a sacred duty in islam, the fact that muslim terrorists are our greatest global terrorism threat, the fact that muslims don't tell us how much money they spend on this sacred duty, I'd like to be as sure of winning the lotto as I am that a portion of halah fees are used to fund islamic terrorism.

I mean come on, who in their right mind would accept that terrorism is funded by muslims, but there is no way that muslims use any halal fees for terrorism?

Or is the muzzie troll singing the truth?

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cows will jump over the moon

dishe will run away with spoon

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cos allah knows best.

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Reply #159 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:55pm

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2020 at 2:29pm:

I am just pointing out a logical fallacy you continually make Gandalf.

translation: I'm just tapdancing to avoid providing any sort of evidence for my libelous smear against halal certifiers - or (heaven forbid), being man enough to retract it.

How do you think your smear would hold up in court FD?

"But it true your honour! Of course those filthy halal certifiers send money to terrorists - because gandalf on the internet didn't want to talk about it!!"

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51491 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #160 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:59pm Quote: translation: I'm just tapdancing to avoid providing any sort of evidence for my libelous smear against halal certifiers - or (heaven forbid), being man enough to retract it. What smear? That you lied by making up statistics and tried to pretend it was rational to lie?
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Reply #161 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:20pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:59pm:

What smear?

That AFIC sends money to terrorists, and that there is "plenty of evidence" for it. But please do keep playing the "me no speaka da English" game, it suits you.

Tell me FD, would you be willing to utter this libelous smear outside the coward's-safety of an anonymous internet user? How do you think it would hold up in court when the people you smear sue you?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51491 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #162 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:24pm You can only get sued for things you actually say Gandalf.
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Reply #163 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 11:53pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:24pm:

You can only get sued for things you actually say Gandalf.

So how did Abu keep ending up in the Wiki? You only put him there when he gave up answering your questions. The Wiki became a long list of things Abu didn't say, just lots of long FD questions - PROOF of Abu's devious, two-faced trechery.

Do you, Abu, want to kill gays who do it Mardi Gras-style?

...

I knew it! And do you, Abu, want to shoot 8 year old girls in the back of the head for going to school? Come on, don't go all shy...

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You see? Typical Muslim. And do you, Abu, want to tax our Vegemite and send the proceeds to al Qaida to blow us all up? Speak up, man...

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Aha! Yes, yes and yes. Aren't you all glad I started the Wiki? Abu?

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Abu says yes. He's just, er, having a bit of a rest, aren't you, dear?

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #164 - Jun 11^th, 2020 at 1:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:24pm:

You can only get sued for things you actually say Gandalf.

You said in 2016 that AFIC sends money to terrorists FD, I remember it like it was yesterday. Your defence of this libelous smear at the time was "I'm sure the receipts are in order". This latest round of hysterics from you is just the latest incarnation of this same smear.

In any case, stating that there is "plenty of evidence" that halal certifiers send money to terrorists, as you did in this thread, is a bad enough smear. Especially when it turns out this "evidence" amounts to saying 'Gandalf and muslims are acting "dodgy" about it'.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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