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Reply #120 - May 29^th, 2020 at 3:41pm

Would totally depend on whether any of said divers were actually into child porn.

I have no idea at all if there are any, I would venture to say that most likely there are none, as I've found that on the whole sportsman are really good people, just as academics are also.

Now with muslim terrorism, every body knows that terrorism is a core teaching of islam, it is part and parcel of the islamic package.

So given the widespread support for terrorism among the muslims, once again I'd venture to say that some halal fees are used to support terrorism.

How much is anybodies guess.

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Reply #121 - May 29^th, 2020 at 5:52pm

moses wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 3:41pm:

Would totally depend on whether any of said divers were actually into child porn.

I have no idea at all if there are any, I would venture to say that most likely there are none, as I've found that on the whole sportsman are really good people, just as academics are also.

Now with muslim terrorism, every body knows that terrorism is a core teaching of islam, it is part and parcel of the islamic package.

So given the widespread support for terrorism among the muslims, once again I'd venture to say that some halal fees are used to support terrorism.

How much is anybodies guess.

He's getting all convoluted now, FD. Let's see, we have some tapdancing, backpedaling, contorting, a nice bit of spineless apologetics. I think most of our beloved cliches are covered in this post, don't you?

But Moses didn't say 0%, so unlike G, he's at least got his maths right.

G's a Muslim, so what do you expect? I never did meet one who could count.

Abu, Falah, G, and that other one - we know four, right?

My maths have never been my strong point either, but I'm an apologist - half a point higher on the inferior culture scale.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #122 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:26pm karnal why the inferiority complex about tinted in a massive amount of your posts?
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Reply #123 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:20pm

moses wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:26pm:

karnal why the inferiority complex about *tinted* in a massive amount of your posts?

Though we know K would deny it, .....his constant proclivity to wishing to divide peoples into the *tinted* and the non-*tinted* camps,
just goes to prove what a racist K is.

Why else, the persistent differentiation he makes in many of his posts, between this human being, and another human being,
based upon their differing skin colour ???

You are a naughty man, K.

Don't you know that even though my skin colour is different from yourself, in the eyes of God, i'm still your brother ?

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35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

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And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

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Reply #124 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 5:58pm

freediver wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Do you think 2 logical fallacies is better than 1?

zero logical fallacies are better than one FD, But lets focus on the question at hand shall we? Are you going to be consistent and insist that saying that child-pornography rings get zero percentage of your spear-fishing club's funds is equally as outrageous as saying that terrorists get zero percentage of halal certifier's funds - when there is no evidence to say otherwise? Because there is literally no difference between the two. None. ziltch.

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You lied. You made up statistics.

well the post before I was delusional, so best you stick to one story because it can't be both.

In any case, thats fine - just so long as you insist with the same vigour that insisting that zero percent of your spear fishing club's funds go to child pornography rings is also lying and "making up statistics". Or, even that zero percentage of ozpolitics ad revenues are sent to far-right terrorists. That has to be an outrageous lie and "making up statistics" also.

Though alas, somehow I can't quite invisage you shrieking around like a pork chop about those "lies" as you do with a muslim or muslim-apologist daring to say the same about halal fees. Can you?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #125 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:03pm

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Are you going to be consistent and insist that saying that child-pornography rings get zero percentage of your spear-fishing club's funds is equally as outrageous as saying that terrorists get zero percentage of halal certifier's funds - when there is no evidence to say otherwise?

There is plenty of evidence of terrorism funding.

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Because there is literally no difference between the two. None. ziltch.

Sure there is. In addition to all the evidence of terrorism funding, there is also a massively different sample size.

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well the post before I was delusional, so best you stick to one story because it can't be both

Another logical fallacy. It is entirely possible to be delusional and to make stuff up.

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Reply #126 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:09pm

Karnal wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

freediver wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

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FD, why is it that you ignore my spear-fishing analogy every time I bring it up?

Do you think 2 logical fallacies is better than 1?

You lied. You made up statistics. And you apparently think it is rational to justify those statistics because you can't cope with them being wrong. And you are are attempting to pretend that your motivation for telling these lies is something other than Islam.

He's got you there, G. The only reason you're saying 0% is you're a Muslim. Your religion blinds you to the facts. Anything up to a hundred percent of your money funds terrorism.

The rest of us can see this all too clearly. We're not members of a retarded subspecies who's members worship a satanic moon god, squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards, you see.

We haven't swallowed the Kool Aid.

How's this for kool Aid:

In the absense of any evidence that indicates otherwise, I'm going to insist that precisely zero percent of FD's ozpolitic ad revenue is sent to far-right terrorists.

There, instant lie and "making up statistics", and only something a deluded and/or lying muslim would say. Say it isn't so FD.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #127 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:23pm

FD I think see your problem. You are confusing/deliberately conflating the tiny number of individuals who are in the Australian halal certifying industry with "muslims en-masse".

Am I right in saying your "evidence" that halal certifiers engage in this illegal funding is to equate any and every Australian muslim terrorist-funding suspect with the halal certifiers - on no other basis except the most tenuous religious association?

Or perhaps you might surprise me and refer me to some actual evidence implicating halal certifiers in this illegal activity? Hopefully something other than a glib quip like "I'm sure the receipts are all in order".

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:03pm:

Another logical fallacy. It is entirely possible to be delusional and to make stuff up.

Not about the same lie though.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #128 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:23pm:

FD I think see your problem. You are confusing/deliberately conflating the tiny number of individuals who are in the Australian halal certifying industry with "muslims en-masse".

What do you think the AFIC did with all that stolen loot? So far your only comment has been to reassure us there is no need to think about where the money ended up.

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Reply #129 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:25pm

Muslims fund jihad. Muslims get money from 'halal certification'. Jihadists do not do ethical book-keeping. 'Halal certification' - and all other 'Islamic charities' - funnel money to jihad.

Jihad IS Islam's way of asserting itself. Halal certification is ONE way Islam funds its asserting itself through jihad. Halal certification IS jihad. All Muslims are jihadists. The shadow education minister in the NSW labor party is called jihad. Jihad is what Islam does.

Resisting their jihad - they call that 'Islamophobia'. You either go along with Islamic jihad - or you are a fearful hater, an 'Islamophobe. They - Muslims, Bwians, Pakis, Greens, SJWs etc - think you, non-Muslims, are stupid enough to be cowered by that assertion.i

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Reply #130 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:33pm

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

Muslims fund jihad. Muslims get money from 'halal certification'. Jihadists do not do ethical book-keeping. 'Halal certification' - and all other 'Islamic charities' - funnel money to jihad.

Jihad IS Islam's way of asserting itself. Halal certification is ONE way Islam funds its asserting itself through jihad. Halal certification IS jihad. All Muslims are jihadists. The shadow education minister in the NSW labor party is called jihad. Jihad is what Islam does.

Resisting their jihad - they call that 'Islamophobia'. You either go along with Islamic jihad - or you are a fearful hater, an 'Islamophobe. They - Muslims, Bwians, Pakis, Greens, SJWs etc - think you, non-Muslims, are stupid enough to be cowered by that assertion.

Interesting.

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

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Reply #131 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 9:25pm:

Muslims fund jihad. Muslims get money from 'halal certification'. Jihadists do not do ethical book-keeping. 'Halal certification' - and all other 'Islamic charities' - funnel money to jihad.

Jihad IS Islam's way of asserting itself. Halal certification is ONE way Islam funds its asserting itself through jihad. Halal certification IS jihad. All Muslims are jihadists. The shadow education minister in the NSW labor party is called jihad. Jihad is what Islam does.

Resisting their jihad - they call that 'Islamophobia'. You either go along with Islamic jihad - or you are a fearful hater, an 'Islamophobe. They - Muslims, Bwians, Pakis, Greens, SJWs etc - think you, non-Muslims, are stupid enough to be cowered by that assertion.

Interesting.

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

Are you saying Trump is as bad as AFIC?

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Reply #132 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 10:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:09pm:

Karnal wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

freediver wrote on May 28^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

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FD, why is it that you ignore my spear-fishing analogy every time I bring it up?

Do you think 2 logical fallacies is better than 1?

You lied. You made up statistics. And you apparently think it is rational to justify those statistics because you can't cope with them being wrong. And you are are attempting to pretend that your motivation for telling these lies is something other than Islam.

He's got you there, G. The only reason you're saying 0% is you're a Muslim. Your religion blinds you to the facts. Anything up to a hundred percent of your money funds terrorism.

The rest of us can see this all too clearly. We're not members of a retarded subspecies who's members worship a satanic moon god, squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards, you see.

We haven't swallowed the Kool Aid.

How's this for kool Aid:

In the absense of any evidence that indicates otherwise, I'm going to insist that precisely zero percent of FD's ozpolitic ad revenue is sent to far-right terrorists.

There, instant lie and "making up statistics", and only something a deluded and/or lying muslim would say. Say it isn't so FD.

FD, can you tell us the truth? How much of your ad revenue goes to decent white people everywhere?

Don't lie. We'll need a percentage, please.

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Reply #133 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 4:53pm

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In the absense of any evidence that indicates otherwise, I'm going to insist that precisely zero percent of FD's ozpolitic ad revenue is sent to far-right terrorists.

The other ‘imminent’ terror attacks Australia narrowly escaped
THE police foiling of an alleged plot to blow up a plane in a suspected terror attack is not the first time Australia has come this close to being struck on home soil. July 31, 2017 10:06am

AUSTRALIA would have experienced 15 terror attacks including public beheadings on home soil over the past three years if most plots in their advanced stages hadn’t been foiled, according to police.

The terror attacks police were unable to prevent include the Lindt Cafe siege in Sydney in which manager Tori Johnson and mother-of-three Katrina Dawson lost their lives; the killing of police accountant Curtis Cheng by 15-year-old schoolboy Farhad Khalil Mohammed Jabar in Parramatta and the non-fatal stabbing of Wayne Greenhalgh in Minto last year. In Victoria, Numan Haider, 18, attacked two police officers with a knife outside the Endeavour Hills police station before being shot dead in September 2014.

Among the alleged “imminent” terror plots foiled by police in the last two years were advanced plans to kidnap members of the public in Sydney and Brisbane then behead them on camera and release the footage; detonate bombs at a Mother’s Day running event; stab and shoot police and members of the public at Anzac Day ceremonies; and target government buildings including the Garden Island Navy base and Parramatta Court House.

This is a couple of years old, but the overwhelming fact is that it seems to be the muslims who are the greatest threat we face.

So in light of this fact and the obvious lack of far right terrorism, one could say that on the law of probability there are zero % funds going to right wing terrorism.

Also one could say that on the law of probability, because of the staggering amount of muslim terrorist kills / beheadings and near misses in Australia, muslims must spend a large proportion of their money on terrorism.

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Reply #134 - Jun 4^th, 2020 at 6:05pm

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 6:23pm:

FD I think see your problem. You are confusing/deliberately conflating the tiny number of individuals who are in the Australian halal certifying industry with "muslims en-masse".

What do you think the AFIC did with all that stolen loot? So far your only comment has been to reassure us there is no need to think about where the money ended up.

No, my only comment so far has been 'I don't know' and 'I know of no evidence that it went to terrorists, and neither do you'. That will continue to be my only comment until such time as the evidence situation changes.

Is this what passes as "evidence" in FD universe? Asking stupid rhetorical questions?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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