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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #15 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #16 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:13pm Indonesia is going to get its butt cracked by a alliance of Phillipines, PNG, E-Timor, Solomon Islands, Micronesia, Balinese and other Indo-Indigenous Non-Moslem minorities - when the big War lets a free-for-all go.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146271 Gender:	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #17 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:41pm rhino wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state. Why does that worry you so much?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51343 At my desk.	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #18 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:41pm: rhino wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state. Why does that worry you so much? Why do you need to ask? If they were progressing towards Nazism we would never hear the end of it.
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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #19 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:59pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state.

Why does that worry you so much?

Why do you need to ask? If they were progressing towards Nazism we would never hear the end of it.

I don't need to ask, but I am.

I'm wondering why people on here are getting so hysterical over things that have no effect on their own lives.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51343 At my desk.	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #20 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 8:01pm Looks like a simple statement of fact to me. The only thing approaching hysteria is the triggering of the limp wristed apologists every time someone states the bleeding obvious about Islam.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146271 Gender:	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #21 - Apr 18^th, 2020 at 8:04pm freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 8:01pm: Looks like a simple statement of fact to me. The only thing approaching hysteria is the triggering of the limp wristed apologists every time someone states the bleeding obvious about Islam. Why do you think rhino and Gnads are getting so hysterical? I'm curious.
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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #22 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 8:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 9:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:30am:

So, what exactly is the problem here?

And, what fraud are you referring to?

Halal Certification .... going beyond Halal & Haram food & food slaughter.

Why on earth would you think that material metal /plastic electronic white goods require Halal Certification?

Are you that thick?

Why do you get so upset over things that have no effect on your life?

Moreover, Halal (and haram) apply to all facets of life.

It's not just about food (I'm not sure who told you it was).

Maybe you should do some research - if you don't, your ignorance is going to continue to make you (unnecessarily) upset.

Listen Noddy when it pervades all non Muslims lives because companies pander to a minority to make an extra buck .....

& when material things require the certification & subsequent fees

it's a problem.

It becomes a religious/Islamic tax on non Muslims.

Pull your head out of your arse.

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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #23 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 8:14am

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 1:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 9:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:30am:

So, what exactly is the problem here?

And, what fraud are you referring to?

Halal Certification .... going beyond Halal & Haram food & food slaughter.

Why on earth would you think that material metal /plastic electronic white goods require Halal Certification?

Are you that thick?

Why do you get so upset over things that have no effect on your life?

Moreover, Halal (and haram) apply to all facets of life.

It's not just about food (I'm not sure who told you it was).

Maybe you should do some research - if you don't, your ignorance is going to continue to make you (unnecessarily) upset.

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Mr Mastuki, head of halal registration and certification centre of Indonesia’s Halal Product Guarantee Agency.

“If the product does not contain elements of animal, then there’s no need for a halal certificate.

But that's not what's happening is it?

Those goods from a large manufacturer(Sharp) have certification stickers on them & they plan to do more.

Those white goods are going to require a Halal certified certificate .... which comes at a cost ... & not because they contain elements of animal ...

but because they are used to store or cook food.

You would think that even you average Indonesian/Muslim would know/have the intelligence to know what's Halal or Haram ...... & only Halal foods would be in their home.

Plastics & metals don't contain HARAM elements.

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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #24 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 8:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state.

Why does that worry you so much?

Why do you need to ask? If they were progressing towards Nazism we would never hear the end of it.

I don't need to ask, but I am.

I'm wondering why people on here are getting so hysterical over things that have no effect on their own lives.

As I said ... pull you head out of your backside.

Halal Certification & it's costs are on the increase in Australia.

Those costs at the end of the day are not just paid by Australian Muslims .... it's non Muslims as well.

So it affects everyone.

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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #25 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 10:04am

Gnads wrote on Apr 19^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

Indonesia is steadily progressing regressing towards a fundamentalist Islamic state.

Why does that worry you so much?

Why do you need to ask? If they were progressing towards Nazism we would never hear the end of it.

I don't need to ask, but I am.

I'm wondering why people on here are getting so hysterical over things that have no effect on their own lives.

As I said ... pull you head out of your backside.

Halal Certification & it's costs are on the increase in Australia.

Those costs at the end of the day are not just paid by Australian Muslims .... it's non Muslims as well.

So it affects everyone.

Really?

What's it costing you?

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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #26 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 10:14am

Does Halal certification increase costs to consumers?

"The cost of obtaining Halal certification varies depending on the product involved, the organisation from which certification is sought and whether the goods are for export or domestic consumption. However, the fees are often modest.

"For large-scale manufacturing the cost of certification in the context of overall manufacturing, advertising and distribution costs has little, if any, impact on a product’s price.

"For example, in relation to Halal certification, the Senate Economics References Committee (the Committee) noted, in a 2015 report on third party certification of food that ‘evidence received by the committee overwhelmingly suggests that Halal certification does not result in increased food prices’."

Link: Parliament of Australia

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Re: HALAL Certified White Goods
Reply #27 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 10:36am

Gnads wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 9:26am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 12:22pm:

With all the focus on Corona virus lately
Gnads is suffering from Isalamphobia withdrawal syndrome

What does he mean by "fraud" and "scam"? Undecided

he thinks the microwave is made of animal skins and so shouldn't be certified.

Dickhead.

I wouldn't go that far. I think you're more likely to be a touch excitable, especially about thing you don't understand.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #28 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 10:38am

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 1:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 18^th, 2020 at 9:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:30am:

So, what exactly is the problem here?

And, what fraud are you referring to?

Halal Certification .... going beyond Halal & Haram food & food slaughter.

Why on earth would you think that material metal /plastic electronic white goods require Halal Certification?

Are you that thick?

Why do you get so upset over things that have no effect on your life?

Moreover, Halal (and haram) apply to all facets of life.

It's not just about food (I'm not sure who told you it was).

Maybe you should do some research - if you don't, your ignorance is going to continue to make you (unnecessarily) upset.

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Mr Mastuki, head of halal registration and certification centre of Indonesia’s Halal Product Guarantee Agency.

“If the product does not contain elements of animal, then there’s no need for a halal certificate.

and you have no need to go fishing often, and yet you do.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: HALAL Certified White Goods Reply #29 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 10:38am Why should we allow a Moslem Religion to profit for their Prophet with 'blessed' items to command a higher price against competitive Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox 'blessed' items? Ban HALAL and relegate it back down to the 'unworthy' level where it belongs.
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