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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37838 Gender:	Re: “A Regime Ender”: Coronavirus impact on China. Reply #15 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:58pm Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:56pm: We'll need regime change in Australia if the Libs and Labs don't stop borrowing money we may not need it but we will certainly get it
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Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 1:10pm

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

With the virus now RE infecting, starting up again, and infecting new people that are ordered to go back to work in China, when is enough ... enough?

That army, they are exempt from this invisible enemy?

So this probable regime ender, may not happen overnight, but a first step to that 1000 mile journey.... the virus took the first step already.
Plus the second step is, the rest of the world is pizzed off with China.

Lets hope thats not the case, because if the virus does mutate and re-infect, then really Europe, USA and Australia is doomed. What hope then we have to contain this thing if authortarian states like China with their draconian isolation measures dont work. What happens in China would be the least of our concerns.

Oh yes now! Because every country is now concerned of their own people.

And what if.... The world recovers, health wise, economy wise, say within the next 2 years, the CCP still with a power hold, will they learn from this, or not?

Since when does a hard headed ego centric power hungry communist party ever learn anything?
Psychopaths never do!

If this world event has not put a dint in their power hold, and other countries too gullible to allow China into their confidences again, then we all deserve whatever China can dish out.

Every country’s motto should be.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Seems Taiwan is a gutsy little country that stands against China and all the blacklisting they cop, even from the W.H.O.
W.H.O.s in bed with China?

What happens in China to be the least of our concerns?
But what happens with China is a concern!

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Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 1:29pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

With the virus now RE infecting, starting up again, and infecting new people that are ordered to go back to work in China, when is enough ... enough?

That army, they are exempt from this invisible enemy?

So this probable regime ender, may not happen overnight, but a first step to that 1000 mile journey.... the virus took the first step already.
Plus the second step is, the rest of the world is pizzed off with China.

Lets hope thats not the case, because if the virus does mutate and re-infect, then really Europe, USA and Australia is doomed. What hope then we have to contain this thing if authortarian states like China with their draconian isolation measures dont work. What happens in China would be the least of our concerns.

Oh yes now! Because every country is now concerned of their own people.

And what if.... The world recovers, health wise, economy wise, say within the next 2 years, the CCP still with a power hold, will they learn from this, or not?

Since when does a hard headed ego centric power hungry communist party ever learn anything?
Psychopaths never do!

If this world event has not put a dint in their power hold, and other countries too gullible to allow China into their confidences again, then we all deserve whatever China can dish out.

Every country’s motto should be.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Seems Taiwan is a gutsy little country that stands against China and all the blacklisting they cop, even from the W.H.O.
W.H.O.s in bed with China?

What happens in China to be the least of our concerns?
But what happens with China is a concern!

make that every state

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33322 Gender:	Re: “A Regime Ender”: Coronavirus impact on China. Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 2:07pm The Chinese are trying to hide/not report any new cases of COVID19. https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1242190711732285440
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Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 2:14pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

With the virus now RE infecting, starting up again, and infecting new people that are ordered to go back to work in China, when is enough ... enough?

That army, they are exempt from this invisible enemy?

So this probable regime ender, may not happen overnight, but a first step to that 1000 mile journey.... the virus took the first step already.
Plus the second step is, the rest of the world is pizzed off with China.

Lets hope thats not the case, because if the virus does mutate and re-infect, then really Europe, USA and Australia is doomed. What hope then we have to contain this thing if authortarian states like China with their draconian isolation measures dont work. What happens in China would be the least of our concerns.

Oh yes now! Because every country is now concerned of their own people.

And what if.... The world recovers, health wise, economy wise, say within the next 2 years, the CCP still with a power hold, will they learn from this, or not?

Since when does a hard headed ego centric power hungry communist party ever learn anything?
Psychopaths never do!

If this world event has not put a dint in their power hold, and other countries too gullible to allow China into their confidences again, then we all deserve whatever China can dish out.

Every country’s motto should be.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Seems Taiwan is a gutsy little country that stands against China and all the blacklisting they cop, even from the W.H.O.
W.H.O.s in bed with China?

What happens in China to be the least of our concerns?
But what happens with China is a concern!

Your state Premier Daniel Andrews has signed up for funding through Chinas "Belt & Road" Initiative.
So Labor Politicians are in bed with the Chinese just as much as you think the LNP are........ maybe more so.

Makes me ashamed to be a Labor supporter with this stupidity going on.

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/victoria-and-china-take-partnership-to-the-next-l...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative

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Reply #20 - Mar 27^th, 2020 at 11:10pm

You're sort of right there LOLS.

China will 'jilt' it's Military as an Economic 'Write Off' and thus the Chinese Military will go out with a Big Bang like a Supernova.

China knows it can not defeat the USA 'directly'.
USA is the best in the Air and it's Navy is still stronger than theirs.
Plus the majority of their Force is 'ground-based' - so I doubt a million soldiers would swim across the Pacific Ocean to invade the USA.

...so their best option is to

INVADE RUSSIA.

Now Russia is a rusted has-been of the former more Powerful USSR.
Vladivostok is a rusted graveyard of former Soviet Navy for starters over there in the very far 'east'.
The lands that the powerful USSR took by force from a very weak China, is now filling with Chinese as those lands have been left vacant from the Whities.
Putin tries to send people back out there with offers of FREE homes, lands, etc... but they don't go. For obvious reasons too.
Hundreds of thousands of Chinese spill into these deserted Russian lands in Siberia and even Chinese in Military uniform are there.

Soon - China will RETAKE those lands officially and by Force, especially when Siberia is rich in resources and Real Estate is the primal driving force behind all Military actions.

Putin knows the Chinese are spilling into his country.
But he knows that he doesn't have the balls to challenge China directly about this. China is not as weak as it was when the USSR existed.

Darth Vader is about to throw his Emperor off his back into the abyss. Wink

...if USA comes into conflict with China, it is because North Korea brings into into the fray.

But hey, Nostrodamus predicted this Wink

and labelled it the

SINO v RUSSO

war.

Of course, it's amazing to see so many MEDIA addicted Australians still thinking that China will take over the world, etc. Ignorant peasants who believe everything the Media (Big Brother of Oceania) feeds them.

Btw - get out of Sydney.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90211 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: “A Regime Ender”: Coronavirus impact on China. Reply #21 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:21am I hope it takes their ruling hierarchy and lets the ordinary people have a go for a change.
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Reply #22 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:24am

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:44pm:

This 1000 mile journey..... has only just begun.

The first 2 steps already headed in that direction.

The Silk Road is long, with many a winding turn....that leads us to who knows where...

Don't laugh - I once carried a wounded man up a steep hillside to a chopper friendly environment... he was heavier than I was. The things people don't know... and never will...

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Reply #23 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:28am

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:58pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

With the virus now RE infecting, starting up again, and infecting new people that are ordered to go back to work in China, when is enough ... enough?

That army, they are exempt from this invisible enemy?

So this probable regime ender, may not happen overnight, but a first step to that 1000 mile journey.... the virus took the first step already.
Plus the second step is, the rest of the world is pizzed off with China.

Lets hope thats not the case, because if the virus does mutate and re-infect, then really Europe, USA and Australia is doomed. What hope then we have to contain this thing if authortarian states like China with their draconian isolation measures dont work. What happens in China would be the least of our concerns.

Oh yes now! Because every country is now concerned of their own people.

And what if.... The world recovers, health wise, economy wise, say within the next 2 years, the CCP still with a power hold, will they learn from this, or not?

Since when does a hard headed ego centric power hungry communist party ever learn anything?
Psychopaths never do!

If this world event has not put a dint in their power hold, and other countries too gullible to allow China into their confidences again, then we all deserve whatever China can dish out.

Every country’s motto should be.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Seems Taiwan is a gutsy little country that stands against China and all the blacklisting they cop, even from the W.H.O.
W.H.O.s in bed with China?

What happens in China to be the least of our concerns?
But what happens with China is a concern!

Unfortunately, Lols - all governments are cut from the same material...our lot are no better. Just read the posts in this strand so far to see... they're all pocket Hitlers and Mussolinis at heart... politicians of all kinds imagine themselves to be the answer to everything they stuff up ... our lot are no different, and imagine themselves to be rulers of all they survey - rather than servants of the people who pay them.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56770 Gender:	Re: “A Regime Ender”: Coronavirus impact on China. Reply #24 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:30am Well said Grapps.
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Reply #25 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:42am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:24am:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:44pm:

This 1000 mile journey..... has only just begun.

The first 2 steps already headed in that direction.

The Silk Road is long, with many a winding turn....that leads us to who knows where...

Don't laugh - I once carried a wounded man up a steep hillside to a chopper friendly environment... he was heavier than I was. The things people don't know... and never will...

I would never laugh at that Mr. G 🥺
I hope you didn’t hurt your back, it would not have been a pleasant task, yet so many would do this, when it comes to helping a less fortunate, but could harm thyself for eons and anti inflammatories later.

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Reply #26 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:45am

Sophia wrote on Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:42am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 28^th, 2020 at 12:24am:

Sophia wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 12:44pm:

This 1000 mile journey..... has only just begun.

The first 2 steps already headed in that direction.

The Silk Road is long, with many a winding turn....that leads us to who knows where...

Don't laugh - I once carried a wounded man up a steep hillside to a chopper friendly environment... he was heavier than I was. The things people don't know... and never will...

I would never laugh at that Mr. G 🥺
I hope you didn’t hurt your back, it would not have been a pleasant task, yet so many would do this, when it comes to helping a less fortunate, but could harm thyself for eons and anti inflammatories later.

Back was younger and stronger then and pretty fit... a determined man can do anything without thinking (that's the secret - just do it and don't think about it) - not so good in the old age. Back and hips and knees are going.... slowly... but I'm still in there batting..

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Reply #27 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 1:10am

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2020 at 11:10pm:

You're sort of right there LOLS.

China will 'jilt' it's Military as an Economic 'Write Off' and thus the Chinese Military will go out with a Big Bang like a Supernova.

China knows it can not defeat the USA 'directly'.
USA is the best in the Air and it's Navy is still stronger than theirs.
Plus the majority of their Force is 'ground-based' - so I doubt a million soldiers would swim across the Pacific Ocean to invade the USA.

...so their best option is to

INVADE RUSSIA.

Now Russia is a rusted has-been of the former more Powerful USSR.
Vladivostok is a rusted graveyard of former Soviet Navy for starters over there in the very far 'east'.
The lands that the powerful USSR took by force from a very weak China, is now filling with Chinese as those lands have been left vacant from the Whities.
Putin tries to send people back out there with offers of FREE homes, lands, etc... but they don't go. For obvious reasons too.
Hundreds of thousands of Chinese spill into these deserted Russian lands in Siberia and even Chinese in Military uniform are there.

Soon - China will RETAKE those lands officially and by Force, especially when Siberia is rich in resources and Real Estate is the primal driving force behind all Military actions.

Putin knows the Chinese are spilling into his country.
But he knows that he doesn't have the balls to challenge China directly about this. China is not as weak as it was when the USSR existed.

Darth Vader is about to throw his Emperor off his back into the abyss. Wink

...if USA comes into conflict with China, it is because North Korea brings into into the fray.

But hey, Nostrodamus predicted this Wink

and labelled it the

SINO v RUSSO

war.

Of course, it's amazing to see so many MEDIA addicted Australians still thinking that China will take over the world, etc. Ignorant peasants who believe everything the Media (Big Brother of Oceania) feeds them.

Btw - get out of Sydney.

Interesting you quoting Nostradamus as my son (surprisingly) did also!
I have Nostradamus book from the 1970s somewhere, and used to try and work it out.
So I looked online about the virus prediction,
All I could find for now was this quatrain of his.

Century 2:53, which warns: “The great plague of the maritime city. Will not cease until there be avenged the death. Of the just blood, condemned for a price without crime.” Although landlocked Wuhan is not a “maritime city,” the disease was traced to a seafood market, which they believe is enough to prove a link.

I thought it could be referral to the Spanish flu as it was during wartime.
Sailers spread this from country to country port (maritime cities).
It spread slowly back then, lasting 2 years, unlike today it’s so much quicker, and may be a shorter duration as we all do the lockdown.
Time will tell as everyday we hope it gets better, but so far, we haven’t peaked yet?
Young people in their teens, twenties are not fully realising the rules to see fit their well being too.
I think it was a huge mistake giving the youth false confidence this virus does not effect them, whereas on the contrary ... it does 🥺

I saw on fb this
The virus doesn’t move, people move it.
We stop moving, the virus stops moving, the virus dies. It’s that simple.

And our youth were in clusters on the beach today, ignoring the signs.
How many times does it take before a message sinks in?
Beaches all closed now as a result of not paying attention.i

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Reply #28 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 1:29am

Nostrodamus was no fool.
He basically cured the Great Plague in his earlier years by telling everyone to "Burn your clothes and have a bloody wash!" and hey presto - the Plague was gone.

Nostrodamus's works are basically based on a part of our History (still in action) that actually goes back in time.
That is, he describes the 'Fall', rather than the 'Rise'.

It's easy to predict a future of a Society that goes back in time, which inevitably - must retrace it's steps back to the present.
Sort of like the Son who goes in the wrong direction and must come back and retrace his steps.

Nostrodamus thus does not predict the future which goes forward into the 'unknown' and he definitely doesn't describe anything from the Southern Hemisphere besides this:
"And he shall 'rise' from the Great South and usher in the Golden Age with a Twist of his Tongue"
and he says this with some disdain as if someone from the true future was looking back into the past at him (when he looked into his bowl of water). Kinda interesting part compared to the majority of his works.

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: “A Regime Ender”: Coronavirus impact on China. Reply #29 - Mar 28^th, 2020 at 7:12am Far from a regime ender. China's gov are scum. Absolutely disgusting regime and the sight of their leader makes any normal person sick. Australia needs to fight back.
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