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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122031 Melbourne Gender:	Coronavirus the end of Abbos? Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:41pm Is the Coronavirus the end of the Abbos? I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have. The European diseases brought here in the past almost wiped them out but now this Coronavirus could be the end for them?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos? Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:45pm they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order. Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..
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Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos?
Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:49pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:45pm:

they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order.

Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..

We have to do something to protect them but already:

The NT Govt has closed its borders - no one in without 14 day isolation. There is a schedule of 76 Aboriginal communities where residents may leave but will not be allowed back in even with isolation. Queensland has done something similar with the NT border and there have been noises about isolating Cape York and Torres Strait communities.

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Reply #3 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:41pm:

I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have.

That may apply to full bloods,although they have been associated with whites, and so have caught the white man's diseases.

Those not full blood have a percentage of white man's genes and some antibodies that way.

Only in full bloods that have never had an association with white man is at more risk. But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

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Reply #4 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:12pm

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:41pm:

I feel sorry for them as they don't have the immunity from disease that we have.

That may apply to full bloods,although they have been associated with whites, and so have caught the white man's diseases.

Those not full blood have a percentage of white man's genes and some antibodies that way.

Only in full bloods that have never had an association with white man is at more risk. But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

But our ancestors survived:
the black plague,
diphtheria,
typhoid,
cholera,
many types of flu including the Spanish flu,
1000s of different types of cold.
a full list here:

https://www.cdc.gov/diseasesconditions/az/c.html

Abbos didn't.

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Reply #5 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:19pm

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

But even white man has no immunity to COVID-19.

with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19. Only a relatively small percentage off those infected will require hospitalization or medical treatment, and most of those will be elderly or those with pre-existing conditions.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21524 Gender:	Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos? Reply #6 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:29pm John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:19pm: with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19. Exactly petal.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122031 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos? Reply #7 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:30pm Actually - John Smith - you're not supposed to be posting in the Environment forum. I will suspend that for this thread only provided that you don't start abusing people.
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Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:30pm

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:19pm:

with the majority of people, their immune system is enough to fight covid19.

Exactly petal. Wink

and yet you said

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:02pm:

But even white man has no immunity
to COVID-19.

your two positions are polar opposites.

you don't know where you stand do you? Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos? Reply #9 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:30pm: Actually - John - you're not supposed to be posting in the Environment forum. I will suspend that for this thread only provided that you don't start abusing people. environment? Sorry
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Reply #10 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:12pm:

But our ancestors survived:
the black plague,
diphtheria,
typhoid,
cholera,
many types of flu including the Spanish flu,
1000s of different types of cold.

And they have passed most of those on to the aboriginals, apart from any who have had no contact with the whiteman.

Any part aboriginal has those genes embedded.

"Since the establishment of the NNDSS, there have been 23 notified cases of diphtheria, including one fatality. These cases occurred in 1991 (eight cases) and 1992 (15 cases); 12 were male (male:female ratio 1.1:1). Of the 23 patients, 16 (14 Aborigines) resided in the Northern Territory. Most (64%) of these recent cases were aged at least 15 years (range 1-78 years), in contrast with the pre-vaccine era when less than 30% of cases were aged 15 years and older."

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-pubs-cdi-200...

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Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos?
Reply #11 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:35pm

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:12pm:

But our ancestors survived:
the black plague,
diphtheria,
typhoid,
cholera,
many types of flu including the Spanish flu,
1000s of different types of cold.

And they have passed most of those on to the aboriginals, apart from any who have had no contact with the whiteman.

Any part aboriginal has those genes embedded.

But full blooded Abbos don't have the same genes as we do
for fighting the shocking diseases our ancestors went through.

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Reply #12 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:35pm:

But full blooded Abbos don't have the same genes as we do
for fighting the shocking diseases our ancestors went through.

I edited my post -
lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:31pm:

"Since the establishment of the NNDSS, there have been 23 notified cases of diphtheria, including one fatality. These cases occurred in 1991 (eight cases) and 1992 (15 cases); 12 were male (male:female ratio 1.1:1). Of the 23 patients, 16 (14 Aborigines) resided in the Northern Territory. Most (64%) of these recent cases were aged at least 15 years (range 1-78 years), in contrast with the pre-vaccine era when less than 30% of cases were aged 15 years and older."

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-pubs-cdi-200...

They get colds and flus just by being around whiteman. And then they spread it within their communities.

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Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos?
Reply #13 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:47pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 7:45pm:

they need to isolate all the communities with severe jail time for anyone that breaches the order.

Supplies can be dropped in by chopper and medical aid provided only by medics who have been tested and cleared immediately prior to entry..

I Agree.

But what about the city tribes, such as in Redfern?

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Re: Coronavirus the end of Abbos?
Reply #14 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:51pm

Thanks Lee,
diseases are frightening beasts.
Our populations are now so large and so concentrated that disease is a very large problem.
I have a feeling that world will never be the same again after this pandemic.
We've had quarantine for animals crossing our borders
but never for humans.
Maybe after this is all over - maybe 18 months -
there will have to be new laws
to stop it happening again?

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