How many times does it have to be explained to the dumbarse conspiracy theorists that Covid-19 is a lot worse than the flu and should be taken much more seriously and yet self opinionated talk-back radio hosts seem to know about it than science does. They seem to know everything about climate science and renewable energy as well ! Let them come up with a cure if they know so much ! A snowflakes chance in hell of course !

Here are the facts to date about Covid-19 !!

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 2:54pm:


I know a person who has been told by his heart physician to self isolate because they are worried about possible heart complications if he gets it !

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 2:54pm:


Spend up big with your $750 before you go.

Have a big party next Tuesday, on St Patrick's Day.

lee wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 3:59pm:


The dude has a PHd in toxicology as well as a masters in business !! Surely that must count for something even to a small minded person such as yourself !!

As far as contagion is concerned it is those who contract the virus that are most contagious initially when they don't shoiw any symptoms which explains its virality !! Like I said a lot worse than the flu !!

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:


Nothing in his bio speaks to anything about toxicology.

"Adam is an experienced Silicon Valley internet executive and Stanford MBA. Prior to partnering with Chris (Adam was General Manager of our earlier site, ChrisMartenson.com), he was a Vice President at Yahoo!, a company he served for nine years. Before that, he did the ‘startup thing’ (mySimon.com, sold to CNET in 2001). As a fresh-faced graduate from Brown University in the early 1990s, Adam got a first-hand look at all that was broken with Wall Street as an investment banking analyst for Merrill Lynch."

https://www.peakprosperity.com/about-adam-taggart/

But perhaps you can give us the link.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:



Nope. It being a virus explains it virality. Or perhaps you meant virility?

gees Men are more affected than women...


wow!...thats not good.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 6:37pm:


Where are you getting those figures from?

lee wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:


then refute what he says you idiot. He called a pandemic long before scumo, trump and the who which have been twiddling their fingers whilst the virus spreads !

Put it this way I have been following his videos for the last two months and I am not short of any dunny rolls or day to day supplies

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 12:11am:


I'm taking a week off work for St Pat's day.

Luckily I found some paracetamol in Woolies yesterday.

It's .6% more toilet paper not being used. Every little bit helps.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 9:57pm:


He (Chris Martensen) and others I listen to, have been correct to date. Using reference of reports globally to inform us.
I see nothing he has done is wrong.

As Nail says, try and refute what information he has shown us about the coronavirus.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 10:18am:


The W.H.O. have been laying in bed with China!
Thus Taiwan is ignored/rejected  by them, but guess what, Taiwan are the smartest country in this whole world.

Kudos to them !

Any country shaking hands making deals with China are the sickest countries now outside China.
I’m truly upset about Italy making deals with China, and Italy was warned by the EU and allies not to!!!
Now my relatives and cousins are living locked up in fear.
I have been messaging them and it’s scary for them with the way this virus is just so eloquently taking over so much so quickly!!!

https://youtu.be/cJmJOE01ZJ4

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How Taiwan beat China

https://youtu.be/DFxmiV2_OHs

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 10:34am:


So how come scumo,trump and the WHO didn't follow and track the case numbers ? It isn't rocket science you know ! Perhaps they need to go back to school to learn about compounding and exponential growth !!

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 11:01am:


Well, at least he's in the country this time and not in Hawaii.

Oh, wait... is that a good thing or bad?

He is here, isn't he? Anyone seen Scotty from Marketing? Hello... hello....

Carl D wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 11:09am:


he made an appearance for the cameras for a couple of minutes, talked a whole lot of useless sh.t and then disappeared like he always does

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12^th, 2020 at 9:57pm:



So you are one of the ones buying up big?

A person who has been out of the loop medically-wise for over 10 years calls a pandemic and I should listen? He sounds like a catastrophist.

He apparently knows more than WHO.

From the report that found the virus viable up to 3 hours as aerosol -

"Virus stability in aerosols was determined as described previously at 65% relative humidity (RH) and 21-23°C."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:


Well it's pretty obvious. 
USA, UK, Aust, etc [[Western Nations]] are more apt at winning wars than practicing good Medicine (unless you pay an arm and a leg for it!).

Western Nations are 'Political' by priority with Military a close 2nd in charge. Their Economic disposition is corrupt, cheatering, fraudulent and like the USA - 4th World!

What's the most pathetic thing about Western People is that if something 'Non-Political' happens by duress - they all run to their Politicians to find the answers.

Medical Catastrophe: Ask the Politicians for help.
Economic Catastrophe: Ask the Politicians for help.
Scientific Catastrophe: Ask the Politicians for help.
etc, etc.

I think Australians need to make another CIVIL action,
like they did with the Fires,
rather than expect the Government to fix things again.

ScoMo said he's gonna send in the Military again to help fight the Virus. 

lee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:


So far everything Chris Martenson has predicted is now the truth. And the WHO is a really useful source of information when they are 1 month too late and the virus has spread out of control You really are quite pathetic in your attempt at denial now  LOL

Sophia wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 12:59pm:


Yeh people like loser lee thinking that if he just believed what Trump and the murdoch media told him he could deny away a killer virus LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:



You are really a fool. You do know that don't you?

Australia closed its borders to China on February 1.

Now according to Peak Prosperity on 29 February they had been talking about Corona virus "a little over a month". Actually 24th January. Not much delay there petal.

https://www.peakprosperity.com/james-wesley-rawles-practical-coronavirus-prepara...

So tell us exactly when we should have done something with the knowledge that was at hand at that time.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 1:31pm:


Link?

South Korea also is in close proximity.

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this guy (OP) is typing his fingers to the bone !!


SO -- ARE YOU ALL SCARED YET ?


or will he be forced to go harder ?

havent you got anything better to do ?? why don't you go and help scumo spread the virus at the footy match tommorrow night LOL

lee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:


Hey Walter Mitty you're the one who is stupid. Every topic of discussion on this forum just shows you how inept and illinformed you really are. Now you are expert on viruses. F.ckoff Walter Mitty LOL

Peter Dutton has the virus.

He's in hospital.

Probably been glad handing Tom Hanks.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:


Ship him off to Christmas Island.

Interestingly, an ABC reporter who has been in 14 days quarantine in Beijing, was out and about today and there are the beginnings of a return to activity in many parts of Beijing.

Still very quiet but definitely on the road to recovery.

Seems that the Chinese, at least, have got on top of this virus in Beijing. 

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 5:07pm:


They were late to the party so they had to enforce draconian quarantine measures. Can you imagine them doing that here when scumo still wanted to go the football and shake peoples hands

Bobby. wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 9:08pm:


scumo doesn't take any national emergency seriously

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:



But he could infect and kill other people.
He needs to be in quarantine and be tested for the virus.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 8:59pm:



Where did I claim to have one? My knowledge is as up to date as his.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 8:59pm:



Where did I actually shoot this messenger? That his knowledge is not up to date is a matter of public record.

So let's see from your OP -

R0 is not "way over 3", Currently it is 2.2

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html

There is no evidence that secondary infection is worse.

Kids are not spared. They do have a lower infection rate.

Persists on some surfaces up to 9 days?

"HCoV-19 was most stable on plastic and stainless steel and viable virus could be detected up to 72 hours post application (Figure 1B), though by then the virus titer was greatly reduced (polypropylene from 10 3.7 to 10 0.6 TCID 50 /mL after 72 hours, stainless steel from 10 3.7 to 10 0.6 TCID 50 /mL after 48 hours,  mean across three replicates)."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

Refutation enough?

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 13^th, 2020 at 10:10pm:



Read what R0 is and then the reference. I am sure you can work it out.

"Australian home affairs minister Peter Dutton announced Friday that he had tested positive for the coronavirus.
Dutton last week attended an event in the US on countering child exploitation, and was pictured with Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr.
“Ivanka is exhibiting no symptoms and does not need to self-quarantine,” the White House told Business Insider in a statement.
On Thursday the White House said that President Donald Trump was not being tested for the coronavirus despite attending an event with a Brazilian official who has the virus."

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 5:48am:


Looks like the little Jewish princess might have the virus now.

Donald had better give those tiny little hands of his an extra hard scrubbing today.

chimera wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 5:35am:


That's brain-dead. The virus is asymptomatic which means you can show no symptoms initially and have the virus as wellas be extremely contageous !!  Who are these people who think they don't need to be tested ?? This sets a very dangerous precedent This is what happens when you don't contain the virus early !

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 11:37am:


Good.

I hope they never get tested.

Then Trump must be chosen.
And Scomo as well, with thoughts and prayers.
Pity Dutton missed out , probably his police record.

Meanwhile those clever Chinese have got some reasonably good news ...

BEIJING (Reuters) - The Chinese city of Wuhan, ground zero of the coronavirus outbreak, reported just five new cases on Friday, the second day in a row the tally has been less than 10, while no locally transmitted infections were reported in the rest of the country.

Wuhan, capital of central Hubei province, registered the five new cases on Thursday, the National Health Commission said, down from eight cases the previous day. The commission routinely reports new cases the day after the data is collected.

Excluding Wuhan, Hubei had reported no new infections for eight consecutive days.

The commission said on Thursday China’s coronavirus epidemic had passed its peak, even as alarm over the virus intensified elsewhere with global markets suffering record falls and governments unveiling measures to try to slow the spread of a disease that has infected more than 127,000 people worldwide.

The financial hub of Shanghai reported two new cases, while Beijing saw one, all imported by people traveling to China from affected areas abroad, the health authority said.

Those cases brought the total number of new infections in mainland China to eight on Thursday, down from 15 the previous day, and the lowest since the healthy authority started publishing nationwide figures in January.

To date, the total accumulated number of cases in mainland China is 80,813.

The coronavirus has killed more than 3,000 people in mainland China.

It had also stalled the world’s second-largest economy as, beginning in January, authorities ordered work stoppages, travel restrictions and home quarantines.

As the measures start to pay off, local governments have been ordered to revive their economies, especially those in areas that have not had to deal with extensive outbreaks.

Hubei province has started to loosen the strict controls that kept up to 60 million people under a virtual lockdown for weeks.

Wuhan has seen some restrictions relaxed this week and the nearby city of Huanggang, which also had numerous coronavirus cases, on Friday begun relaxing its lockdown, saying that residents could start traveling within the city.

Outside Hubei, about 60% of small- and medium-sized firms and 95% of large ones have gone back to work, vice industry minister Xin Guobin said on Friday.

The death toll in mainland China reached 3,176 as of the end of Thursday, up by seven from the previous day.

In Hubei, there were six new deaths, with Wuhan accounting for all of them.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china/chinas-coronavirus-e...

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 12:33pm:



"reported"

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 11:57am:


It seems so , he was on the drugs.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 12:50pm:

All PM's regardless of Party - follow the USA Script.
Rudd didn't, and Gillard was given a standing ovation by USA Congress when she went there.


G-G serves the UK.
PM serves the USA.
...only Volunteers serve Australia.  Because the best things in life are free!

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 12:37pm:


Initially China wasn't "reporting" ......... now it's reporting less & less cases &

now trying to blame the outbreak on a "patient zero" that came from overseas - a foreigner. 

The CCP couldn't lie straight in bed.

The virus is the earth telling us to slow economic growth to slow global warming.

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 14^th, 2020 at 12:33pm:


That is very good news

Edited:


You think so..??.....The virus is another canary in the cage warning, when humans do not respect the environment then  the human race could very well face extinction....simple.

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 9:40am:


just remember how for years the pollies encouraged people to hoard properties and be greedy about it ! Yes buy as many properties as you want and we will give you generous tax incentives to do it ! Quite a few pollies own many investment properties in fact one owns 50 of them !! Whereas joe blow who just wants one house to live in is treated as a second rate citizen when they have to compete with foreign buyers as well as cashed up investors !

I never once heard the pollies from the major parties discouraging hoarding of properties in fact their interventionalist kick the can down the road monetary policies always encouraged it !!

The way people are hoarding food and dunny roll and the way the chinese are going around buying in bulk to make a quick buck on ebay is just another case of monkey see monkey do thanks to our pollies setting such a bad example with property

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 11:06am:


I'm talking about America.

You can't seriously believe that Trump is telling the full story.

Captain Nemo wrote on Mar 15^th, 2020 at 11:17am:


All the health officials are saying he's screwed it up big time.

He's gonna be responsible for a lot of unnecessary deaths.

Someone needs to tell him to get back on the golf course and let the grown ups do their work.