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Reply #90 - Mar 9^th, 2020 at 7:48am

mothra wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 7:59pm:

cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 11:46am:

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I cant believe not one girl has died from infection...

A great many have died from infection.

A great many live with severe life long injury terrible side effects.

totally agree ... so do you believe we are condoning this practice by accepting these girls only smelt the steel?..my concern is we are sending a bad message here....

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Reply #91 - Mar 9^th, 2020 at 12:27pm

cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 7:17pm:

cods wrote on Mar 7^th, 2020 at 2:31pm:

if you read the op pz this was the first case where they had been found GUILTY ..

I am in shock we are in fact condoning this and no muslim girl is safe in this country of ours... I AM APPALLED>

You will be no doubt glad to know that the reason the case was dismissed was because there was no female circumcision it was a ritual where the act was simulated.

Took a while but we got to the bottom of it.

seriously the skin only smells tha steel of the blade...

no mate WHY DO IT AT ALL?????....

you are seriously saying you are ok with girls up to the age of 14 having their private parts smell steel.... Roll Eyes

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tell me you are not ok with that.

That's right cods, why do it at all?

The stone age Elders wouldn't turn down a chance to satisfy their jollies perving on a young chick naked from the waist down - could be one reason - they're just dirty old muslims no better than pedophile priests

What we don't know is whether the Prosecution was PC multicultural. A prosecutor worth his salt would know the true meaning of "mutilation", but maybe used it to eventually get the offenders off. These things happen, it's not conspiracy. PC prosecutor + PC Defense + PC Judge = foreign multicultural practices accepted in spite of Aust law

Did you know that the term "cast a vote" is not accepted in courts also? it has no legal meaning in court cases that relate to electoral matters

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Reply #93 - Mar 9^th, 2020 at 1:11pm

The world is allowed to dump its trash on civilization

and of course, the trash continues its trashy behaviour with the government of the previously civilized nation turning a blind eye to the trash

Where are the voices of outrage from the trash?

they're too busy fighting over toilet paper in trashed suburbs

When the women who've been mutilated get out there and make a noise and stop handing their daughters to the perverts, something might happen

until then, it will continue

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Reply #94 - Mar 9^th, 2020 at 2:32pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2020 at 12:36pm:

Let the victims refer to themselves as they wish, mutilated, cut, modified, whatever, but the legal definition and the term for the perpetrators should remain as MUTILATORS.

I agree.....now its called" skin smelling steel"...

and then this...

(One girl) confirmed that when the procedure was done to her, she had been told to close her eyes and imagine that she was a princess in a garden, and that following the procedure she had a drink of lemonade and a shower,” court documents state.

“(She) confirmed that when the procedure was done to her she felt ‘a bit of pain and then a weird sort of feeling’ in her private part.

why feel pain if it did nothing... Roll Eyes

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Reply #95 - Mar 9^th, 2020 at 7:26pm

cods wrote on Mar 9^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

mothra wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 7:59pm:

cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 11:46am:

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I cant believe not one girl has died from infection...

A great many have died from infection.

A great many live with severe life long injury terrible side effects.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 5:06pm:

cods wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 11:46am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 10:15am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 8^th, 2020 at 10:03am:

If FGM was a christian thing then cite the verses from the Bible calling for it.

you're either not listening, or an idiot. It's been said all along it's not a religious thing, it's cultural.

where does culture come from exactly??.. Roll Eyes

Basically, FGM is a practice limited to certain parts of Africa—and although it’s more common among Muslims than other religions, Christians are pretty close in most countries. As for Britain, its FGM problem is more due to where their African immigrants come from than it is to Islam per se.

Female genital mutilation is a barbaric practice, and Muslims in many countries are far too tolerant of it. Anyone who fights it—as do m

to be honest I have never heard of Christian culture practicing this so this is all new to me...

however why is it important??.. surely the important thing is to stamp it out?...

at least thats the way I look at it..it has nothing to do with health after all...and do we ever get told how many young girls die after enduring this operation?

I cant believe not one girl has died from infection...

I cant believe not one girl has died from infection.

I suspect the infection rate would be similar to male circumcision maybe a little less ?

I doubt that very much male circumcision is mainly done in hospitals...dna not in some antiquated old ladies back room....

The male circumcision ceremony may well be carried out by the same cleric. The stated process a 'khatna" is specifically referencing male circumcision. They either got the name wrong in the story or it can be used for both.

I would think it unlikely that they send their little boys to the hospital for the ceremony just as the jewish people don't ?

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Reply #97 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 8:40am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 9^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

The male circumcision ceremony may well be carried out by the same cleric. The stated process a 'khatna" is specifically referencing male circumcision. They either got the name wrong in the story or it can be used for both.

I would think it unlikely that they send their little boys to the hospital for the ceremony just as the jewish people don't ?

why do we not hear anything about male mutilation in that case?. are males done at birth perhaps I know thats the case with Jews ... somehow I do not believe what we called backstreet medics.. would give much of a stuff about hygiene

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Reply #98 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 9:53am

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 8:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 9^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

The male circumcision ceremony may well be carried out by the same cleric. The stated process a 'khatna" is specifically referencing male circumcision. They either got the name wrong in the story or it can be used for both.

I would think it unlikely that they send their little boys to the hospital for the ceremony just as the jewish people don't ?

why do we not hear anything about male mutilation in that case?. are males done at birth perhaps I know thats the case with Jews ... somehow I do not believe what we called backstreet medics.. would give much of a stuff about hygiene

"Young boys and men are increasingly being circumcised.

"The number of circumcisions with a local anaesthetic grew by nearly 60 per cent from 6518 in the year ending June 2017 to 10,352 in the year ending June 2019, Medicare item reports show."

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Reply #99 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:17am

yes greg we all see the humor. in male circumcision it isnt quite as humorous for females you understand ... no anaesthetic that we know of.... Angry

... plus NO CHOICE...

perhaps you agree with what goes on in other countries and now it appears in our own...

our courts do not wish to traumatise young women... Roll Eyes

makes sense to some! Angry

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Reply #100 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:19am

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:17am:

yes greg we all see the humor. in male circumcision it isnt quite as humorous for females you understand ... no anaesthetic that we know of.... Angry

... plus NO CHOICE...

perhaps you agree with what goes on in other countries and now it appears in our own...

our courts do not wish to traumatise young women... Roll Eyes

makes sense to some! Angry

I agree 100%.

If men make the decision to be circumcised, that's their business.

Why would I object to an adult having elective surgery that will make their lives less painful and more enjoyable?

I don't object to women having boob jobs.

Their bodies - their decision.

"The rise in older age circumcision is due to a condition called phimosis, a narrowing of the foreskin, which may make retraction over the shaft of the penis impossible.

"Phimosis can cause multiple infections and even rupturing of the foreskin, but its onset happens well after birth. The only permanent fix is circumcision."

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: are we condoning this? Reply #101 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:20am if more men and boys are having it done IT IS THEIR CHOICE....isnt that correct greg?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 144875 Gender:	Re: are we condoning this? Reply #102 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:21am cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:20am: if more men and boys are having it done IT IS THEIR CHOICE....isnt that correct greg? That's exactly what I said, cods.
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Reply #103 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:24am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:19am:

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:17am:

yes greg we all see the humor. in male circumcision it isnt quite as humorous for females you understand ... no anaesthetic that we know of.... Angry

... plus NO CHOICE...

perhaps you agree with what goes on in other countries and now it appears in our own...

our courts do not wish to traumatise young women... Roll Eyes

makes sense to some! Angry

I agree 100%.

If men make the decision to be circumcised, that's their business.

Why would I object to an adult having elective surgery that will make their lives less painful and more enjoyable?

I don't object to women having boob jobs.

Their bodies - their decision.

these girls were not given a choice....

and our courts have allowed those who touched them to go free........reason being

it may traumatised these girls..... Roll Eyes

what about tomorrows group of young girls who are not given the choice....

its not a cse of their bodies their choice.. Angry

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Reply #104 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:25am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:21am:

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2020 at 10:20am:

if more men and boys are having it done

IT IS THEIR CHOICE....isnt that correct greg?

That's exactly what I said, cods.

its not THEIR CHOICE for females greg... Roll Eyes

if you dont want to talk about the op.. thats fine...

this is a court order....choice doesnt come in to it..

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