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Reply #15 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:13am
 
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There have been many problems and accusations surrounding the New South Wales Police – enough of a problem for a Royal Commission to be set up in 1997 to examine the force.

The report can be read in full here:
https://www.australianpolice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/RCPS-Report-Volume-1.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2SOHg76_Nrjlu6Gi2x2ZMbUIMnBZ3QIV8zzl0blTubFJxRaBxfS6T5xPI


Chapter 4.4 is particularly damning:

" The only conclusion open on the evidence called in respect of these separate topics is that a state of systemic and entrenched corruption existed within the Service. It follows that the assessment FINAL REPORT - VOLUME I: CORRUPTION 68 by senior commanders at the commencement of the public hearings represented a serious underestimate of the nature and extent of corruption then present."

This certainly calls into question the integrity of the investigation
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Reply #16 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:20am
 

Amanda Howard, the Serial Killer Whisperer joins us again to talk about the holes she believes are in the case against Ivan Milat. Amanda corresponds with Milat in jail.

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Reply #17 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:24am
 
PZ547 wrote on Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:11am:
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:02am:



I think you must be low IQ, Cods

Your willingness to jump in with your ill informed comments whilst simultaneously refusing to read the content provided

I'm quickly forming a poor opinion of you

Now why don't you quit trying to be Mrs Clever and read the damn content provided BY the wife of the German

and then, rack your brain up a notch or two and come to the realisation that the woman's content was reposted on a now defunct website

think you can do that without spluttering into stupidity before you've grasped the content?





this is my thread btw...its you thats taken it out of topic.....you want to take the word of a conspiracy nut case thats your stupidity   I will leave the thread to you'
I cant be bothered.with your rudeness.....I thought mothra was bad.. but blimey you leave her in the ballpark.
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Reply #18 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:54am
 
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:24am:
PZ547 wrote on Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:11am:
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2020 at 9:02am:



I think you must be low IQ, Cods

Your willingness to jump in with your ill informed comments whilst simultaneously refusing to read the content provided

I'm quickly forming a poor opinion of you

Now why don't you quit trying to be Mrs Clever and read the damn content provided BY the wife of the German

and then, rack your brain up a notch or two and come to the realisation that the woman's content was reposted on a now defunct website

think you can do that without spluttering into stupidity before you've grasped the content?





this is my thread btw...its you thats taken it out of topic.....you want to take the word of a conspiracy nut case thats your stupidity   I will leave the thread to you'
I cant be bothered.with your rudeness.....I thought mothra was bad.. but blimey you leave her in the ballpark.



Now you're really getting ridiculous

'It's my thread'   Grin Grin


and it's not taken off topic at all

The thread title is: ' Can you believe this 'family'

and I've responded by stating that I'm not convinced Milat was guilty of the crimes

further, I've provided you an almost impossible to find open letter written many years ago by a woman who claims her ex-husband was very likely to have been guilty of the crimes for which Milat was convicted … and most likely for many more which police have either ignored or failed to investigate

But you like it simple, don't you Cods

Guess you expected everyone to respond to the OP with shrieks of righteous rage

and doubtless you believe people should believe, as you do, that the police investigation was faultless and Milat guilty

Too bad the entire world doesn't fall in line for you, huh?

but more a case of expecting you, from the comfort of your home, to have at least a partly open mind

Guess it's easier to slurp up the trash thrown your way by a self interested media and task force

Can't have the plebs questioning anything or who knows what they'll be questioning next


By the way, did you briefly peruse my post containing the police corruption enquiry and its conclusions?

Good thing to keep on hand next time the media bursts forth with unquestioning carp about someone's guilt.  If you have that report to hand, it might give you cause for a little doubt and suspicion

Regardless, Milat is dead.  So that should put an end to all the slavish poring over the horrific details and living vicariously as so many have and still do

People died horribly, unimaginably, in that forest and left to rot

A ton and more of information has been purged from online .. anything which could throw doubt on that flawless police investigation into Belanglo has gone.  Used to be quite a bit only a few years ago.  Why do you think it's gone now?  How difficult would it be to find the woman's revelations about Kaasperchick if it weren't hidden in a defunct, wrecked online info source? 

But here's something to consider:  that woman's life was in danger, as were those of her children, when she posted about her ex-husband.  She was firmly of the belief a group of high profile thus powerful individuals were meeting in the forest to sexually abuse and kill children and others

and you have at your disposal now a lengthy report into investigation into police integrity in NSW … an investigation which states that the corruption is considerable … as numerous documentaries and books have also revealed with high ranking coppers and their minions playing fast and loose with innocent people's lives and reputations in order to cover for the true culprits

There's a ton said to be known in certain circles about a guy called Keating, for example.  And wasn't his daughter filmed emerging from Epstein's city pad with Prince Andrew waving cheerily from the doorway?  Funny how that's glossed over by the intrepid media

Fiona Barnett has named prominent Australian (and other) politicians including former Prime Ministers whom she's identified by name.  Yet Americans and Brits know more about it than Aussies

It all ties in, although perhaps making the connections are beyond your capacity or willingness to do

Murdered young people in a forest
Altars which were standing as attested to by bush walkers but somehow were demolished by the time all the Milat doco makers got there
Children recounting to their mother about abominable experiences to which they were subjected by their own father and which has been confirmed by the children of his first marriage.  Did you see where his first wife's uterus was knocked out of her by that man, not to mention the other injuries she suffered?
Child services and Wollongong police had the same guy on their suspect list re: Belanglo. Do you think they're complete morons or do you suspect their suspicions might have been warranted?

Non matching items of evidence
Disputed (by the families) items of evidence
Paul Onions changing his story. Wonder who 'helped' him with that, seeing he was in a police investigation room

So what enquiries did the Milat task force conduct into Wynn Kaaspercheck, a known gun nut whose kids were telling such horrific stories?  And why would you think none of this and more was on topic?
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Reply #19 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 10:31am
 
In 'your' thread, Cods

you mentioned a bridge, scathingly

Well, what do you know about the bodies of boys found in the pylons of the bridge which many have claimed was Milat's 'hunting ground'?

Did you know about the kids in the bridge?

They're dead.  Weren't found for a while

There was a hunky dory investigation into that, as well

The reason you probably know nothing about it is most likely because not a lot said about it publicly … like so much else

And Milat cannot be blamed for those deaths too, because he was locked up (unless he was living a normal life in Goulburn as that odd white pages entry suggests, which also suggests he was a willing patsy for the purposes of assuring people overseas that it was now safe to let their backpacking children roam Australia again

Who killed the kids in the bridge pylon?  They didn't fall and from memory, the few bits of official info suggested they were too decomposed for cause of death to be established

there are threads out there in the interwebs where it's discussed .. about where nutcases with guns still prey on kids wagging school to muck around near the bridge.  If I remember, I'll have a look for some info

bodies all over this land, some eventually discovered, others still just a pile of bones bleaching in the sun

Remember the dodgy investigation into the girl found a couple of years ago in Belanglo?  And it's been claimed her toddler daughter's remains were found in a battered suitcase lying by a roadside in lonely South Australia

it was a group of online sleuths, mostly women, who did the hard yards on that case, whether or not police were grateful to have the info dropped on them.  Then the police snapped to and connected the two bodies.  Whether or not they were connected we'll never know

but for years, police claimed they had no clue and were reliant on a facial reconstruction by one of their experts … which, when photos came to light, bore little to no actual resemblance to the girl

and for years, police claimed to be reliant on Dna which prompted them to inform the public at large that the girl was of European origin based on her teeth.  Yet when the online sleuths got to work that was disproved and it was admitted by police after further investigation that the girl had been born in .. and spent her entire life in .. Australia.  Gee, can our experts be relied upon?

this is the case, first to hand, a ton online
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so, just another body in Belanglo. And this time, due to massive public interest generated by the little girl's remains in a suitcase, Daniel Holdom was found guilty and sure, it sounds convincing to the public who're supplied a feasible story

but what if the story the public's told is a concocted fabrication created to cover for a gang of satanic ritual abusers with -- for some reason -- a liking for Belanglo?  If they're high profile/powerful, they can afford to be careless and leave bodies lying around, knowing investigators will tidy things up for them

thousands of kilometres of bushland, yet Daniel Holdom chose Belanglo as the site in which to murder the mother, Kylie, who was said for years to be of European origin?  He'd have to be an extreme risk taker to take someone to Belanglo, considering its history and the interest in it by ghouls.  The whole story was suss but when the media puts its mind to the job, it can be stitched into something believable.  Yet neither Holdom or the dead young woman or her child were from the Belanglo region .. but that's where the mother's remains were discovered

would you go wandering around Belanglo, Cods, even with a big dog and on a bright and sunny day?  Or in the back of your mind might you feel some trepidation after reading what that woman from Wollongong said or the kids in the bridge pylons or the girl supposedly murdered there by Holdom?

are you completely of the belief that Milat killed those backpackers?  Or do you think that those who are not totally convinced of his guilt in light of so much else, might not be so unreasonable after all?

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Reply #20 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 11:17am
 
I have concerns about the conviction of Ned Kelly...Dugan and Mears...Chow Hayes... and a few others that'll come to mind.
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Reply #21 - Mar 1st, 2020 at 12:58pm
 
Milat admitted he did it. When in prison he said he acted alone when the cops tried to implicate his sister

The entire Milat family should be deported back to Europe, get their murdering genetics and dna out of here
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