https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/ivan-milats-family-in-fight...

Backpacker killer Ivan Milat’s family toyed with the idea of scattering his ashes at Belanglo State Forest insisting he too was a “victim” of the killing fields.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Milat’s nephew Alistair Shipsey raised the idea with family after the 74-year-old died of cancer in October last year.

“He didn’t do it, he’s innocent, so I thought, well, he’s a victim of Belanglo too,” Mr Shipsey told The Sunday Telegraph.

“But in the end we made the right choice — he belongs at peace out to sea.

Milat’s ashes were eventually scattered off Sea Cliff Bridge in Wollongong two weeks after his death, in a private ceremony attended only by close family.

Milat’s cremation also sparked a very public stoush between his family and state government over who would foot the bill.

In the end, the $2000 cost of the cremation was taken out of Milat's prison account. Now Bill, Ivan’s next of kin, is demanding the rest of his money and possessions be returned.

He claims Corrective Services NSW is refusing to hand over his brother “Mac’s” belongings and won’t return phone calls.

“It’s not about the money. At the end of the day Mac wanted me to have his personal belongings and they should be returned to me,” Bill Milat said.

“There must be rules that when prisoners die their belongings should be given back to their family, it doesn’t matter who they are or what they’re in jail for,” he said.

“No matter what anyone thinks, Mac’s my brother and we love him and we want closure to get on with our lives.

“Just like when he died, it was all over the internet before we were even told. Now, no one from the jail returns our calls when we ring about getting his things back.

“No one wants to hear that his DNA doesn’t match any of the victims. There’s no match on any Milat. So whose DNA is it? No one wants to know that.”

Milat was arrested in 1994 following one of the biggest police investigations in Australian history, after seven bodies were discovered in shallow graves in the Belanglo State Forest, southwest of Sydney, between 1992 and 1993.

The victims were all hitchhikers travelling south along the Hume Highway near Liverpool, who disappeared between 1989 and 1992.

They were Deborah Everist and James Gibson, both 19, from Victoria, Simone Schmidl, 21, from Germany, Anja Habschied, 20, and Gabor Neugebauer, 21, a couple from Germany, and British friends Caroline Clarke, 21, and Joanne Walters, 22.
Two of the victims had been shot multiple times in the head and one had been decapitated. Three had stab wounds that would have caused paralysis and two of those victims had their spinal cords completely severed.

Carol and Bill believe the truth is yet to come out and Ivan is innocent.

On Thursday the Bargo couple returned to Sea Cliff Bridge and threw flowers into the ocean.

“We spoke to Mac before he died about what he wanted,” Bill said.

“He loved this spot, he loved the ocean.”


The bridge was not opened until 2005; Milat had been in jailed since 1996.

Carol said she felt relieved to grant her brother-in-law and “friend” his final wish.

“Now he can sail around the world, he can be free and at peace,” she said.

“I always think things happen for a reason, but with Belanglo? Well, I can’t reason that one.”

A Corrective Services NSW spokeswoman said that “in the event of an inmate death, the next of kin can apply for the inmate’s property and money”.

“The application is made to the prison where the inmate was residing prior to their death. “Once an application has been made, Corrective Services NSW liaises with the NSW Trustee and Guardian to ensure the property and money are distributed appropriately.”




DELUSIONAL!

The police in australia are not interested in solving murders. They are more interested in white collar crimes that bring them revenue. Ivan had to be removed though because foreigners were being killed. They know he wasnt alone but they dont care.

Spot

Another interesting snippit:

a few years ago, online, there were energetic discussions about the fact an 'I. Milat' had his phone number in Goulburn's white pages directory

Someone came across it by chance.  Others soon became involved.  They phoned the number.  A woman answered but when questioned, the line went dead

Subsequent enquiries revealed that shortly afterwards, authorities, in response to questioning, claimed the line had been disconnected

don't know if it's still online.  might be

but at the time, people wondered if Milat was complicit in a scheme whereby he willingly pretended to be a prisoner, when in fact, he was living outside, all with the knowledge and participation of the authorities.  In other words, a sham trial, etc. as a means of assuring the lucrative backpacker system that Australia was now safe from Milat, the Serial Killer.  If that was the case, Milat would have been well compensated via our money. And the media and authors of no great reputation, not to mention documentary makers and the media, etc. have and continue to make money

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2020 at 7:10am:





its not about caring spot its about PROOF....what proof did they have of someone else????.....

as for the police creating a trail of evidence to set ivan up..

seriously!!!!!!!!

funny they stopped though once they had him...

Look Cods, believe what you want.  It's immaterial to me.  I read it, others read it and online somewhere there are ongoing discussions doubting Milat was the culprit as well as people who believe people in positions of power were the culprits

Naturally, once Belanglo hit fame for all the wrong reasons, those who may have been responsible would change their location of operation.  Millions of acres of bush for them to choose

and naturally, the woman's claims would cast doubt not ONLY on Milat (about whom I actually care not a jot) but ALSO on those claiming they apprehended a serial killer

would cast the authorities into disrepute

and would cause a price-fall in all those books which have lived off the back of Milat for years

and would spur the public to delve more deeply into the official story

Which is more likely to be damned as a brutal serial killer … Ivan Milat, disreputable nobody with shady past … or satanic, child raping big wigs in the legal, child services, police, etc.?  Which would most shake the public to the core?   

There's a woman, easily found online, by the name of Fiona Barrett.  For years she went to police around Australia, telling them about ritual child sex abuse and claiming she had been a victim

They brushed her off

Maybe she has a death wish, like the Wollongong (thanks) woman who persisted in repeating her story.  But Fiona Barrett wouldn't keep quiet and she named several Australian Prime Ministers, plus assorted high profile politicians, not to mention the father of one of Australia's most famous actresses, as being amongst those who subjected her to child sex abuses

Then there's a guy who used to post online as Docker, I think, or Dockers and Painters.  His name was Martin Timothy from memory.  He was familiar with the rough edges of life, being a docker.  He claimed the two little girls who were raped, murdered and thrown in a ditch in North Queensland were victims of a man, whom he named but I've forgotten, who told all and sundry, complete with groin thrusting actions, how he raped those little girls

so the Docker named that guy.  Repeatedly.  It burned the docker and he wanted justice.  He said online that he'd been bashed and chucked out of numerous police stations when he'd approached them with the information.  He was chucked out of Aussie forums so he went to US forums, still trying to get justice

Eventually, an elderly man in Townsville I think, was arrested and charged with the girls' murder, some fifty or so years later.  But he was spared a sentence because of his age.  He was in his eighties.  But the docker claimed the little girls weren't the guy's only victims.  Makes you wonder why none of those police over the years wanted to listen to the docker

The docker also stated online that a gay guy had been murdered in Brisbane with full police knowledge and he named the victim and those he claimed were responsible

Another Aussie guy long past middle age claimed online that Australia's preeminent cricketers … everyone knows his name … raped him as a boy.  He said his father was a freemason and in with the local police. The father and mother scrubbed the boy … we're talking years ago before modern bathrooms in the average home .. and dressed him in his Sunday best.  The boy was forced to accompany 'uncle' (famous cricketer) who then buggered him, gave him two bob until next time.  The boy had to hand the two bob over to his parents. When he complained, his father flogged him, knew what the kid was being put through but the father wanted to stay good with the freemasons, police and the famous cricketer

Internet has provided a voice for many people who previously had no one to confide in other than family who usually didn't want to know, or friends who often told others.  Internet provides anonymity and a voice.  But still, many people don't want to know.  They want it served to them, with absolute proof provided, in order they might make up their important minds.  And those demanding proof positive are usually blissfully unaware that people risk their lives, very often, in coming forward with the truth

One thing's for certain -- the delicate public doesn't know a quarter as much as it believes it does.  And the media barons laugh in the public's face and tells them that a quarter of what passes as 'news' bears any resemblance to fact or truth

All those crooked coppers.  All those people stitched up to protect those who're deemed 'too important' and 'too rich' to be outed for what they are.  All those judges who were paedophiles and poofs while passing sentence on others.  What was that Sydney judge's name who was outed, after his death I think, as a compulsive public toilet shagger?  Police confessed they'd been ordered to take him home and not record all those times he was apprehended in public toilets having a go

and the other one who cost at least one politician his job and almost cost Howard his, an eminent judge who was accused of using C'wealth cars to pick up boys from The Wall

Then poor Franca Arena who stated under Parliamentary Privilege that certain politicians, judges, etc. were potential paedophiles.  A strong, brave woman doing her job.  She was ruined as result.  But one of the MPs she mentioned, Frank Arkell, was subsequently disembowelled by, in the minds of many, by former child victims.  Once again, the case of Arkell was muddied and various characters and drugs motives became involved by media, etc

And here you go, Cods

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I haven't seen this version before

Continued next post

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Can't believe I managed to find this

It's the original version from several years ago from teh woman who was married to the brutal German who she believes to be responsible, along with others, for the Belanglo Forest murders

Haven't read it through, though I'll be saving it.  Just posting the link

LINK

cods wrote on Mar 1^st, 2020 at 9:02am:



I think you must be low IQ, Cods

Your willingness to jump in with your ill informed comments whilst simultaneously refusing to read the content provided

I'm quickly forming a poor opinion of you

Now why don't you quit trying to be Mrs Clever and read the damn content provided BY the wife of the German

and then, rack your brain up a notch or two and come to the realisation that the woman's content was reposted on a now defunct website

think you can do that without spluttering into stupidity before you've grasped the content?