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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #45 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:44am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:27am:

rhino wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 5:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 12:52pm:

Again, Greg, please consider banning yourself from OzPol for an extended period

You've done your dash here

People are trying to hold discussions. It appears your only reason for commenting is to disrupt, divert, divide and gain attention for yourself

I hope you will do the decent thing and leave the forum for an extended period. You serve no purpose here

My reason for commenting is to introduce facts.

For the offence of using the phone, it is only an allegation at this stage.

No its not...

Yes, it is.

Read the article (if you can).

"He was charged by police just a month later for allegedly breaching the conditions of the CPR by setting up an Instagram account to follow soccer superstar Cristiano Ronaldo and not telling police within the required seven days. He also was accused of using the phone to speak to a child relative."

"This time it is alleged that he has breached his CPR conditions by using someone else’s phone that has internet access."

oh so his parole conditions dont mention OR USING A MATES PHONE WITH INTERNET ACCESS

so in lefty logic it means he didnt break his conditions...

Roll Eyes

someone save us!

Not sure what you're talking about, cods.

All I'm doing is pointing out that he has not been found guilty of those charges yet.

At this stage they are allegations.

Nothing to do with defending anyone, or any other bullshit you and rhino like to throw about, I'm just pointing out the facts of the matter.

It might turn out that he's as guilty as hell, but at this stage they are just allegations.

You know, like the allegation that Donald Trump raped a 13 year old girl and then threatened to kill her and her family.

its the second coming gweg....its not his first parole break...

...btw the man who killed his children and wife... ALSO bROKE A LEGAL AGREEMENT A DVO>>.

he too should not have been on the streets had the law taken its true course... Angry

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

it isnt hard to find the evidence of both acts...

in the mean time there is not a thing to prevent him abusing another child... Angry

because he is on the street,.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #46 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:55am

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile

Yes. And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

Pay attention.

He hasn't been found guilty on that charge.

It's only an allegation at this stage.

Do you understand what that means?

If you say he's guilty of that crime, then you must also say that Donald Trump is guilty of raping a 13 year old girl.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #47 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:55am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile

Yes. And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

Pay attention.

He hasn't been found guilty on that charge.

It's only an allegation at this stage.

Do you understand what that means?

If you say he's guilty of that crime, then you must also say that Donald Trump is guilty of raping a 13 year old girl.

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET>>>

therein lies the difference..take your TRUMP blinker off pet..and TRUMP ISNT ON PAROLE>>.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #48 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:12am

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:55am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile

Yes. And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

Pay attention.

He hasn't been found guilty on that charge.

It's only an allegation at this stage.

Do you understand what that means?

If you say he's guilty of that crime, then you must also say that Donald Trump is guilty of raping a 13 year old girl.

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET>>>

therein lies the difference..take your TRUMP blinker off pet..and TRUMP ISNT ON PAROLE>>.

There's a pile of evidence against Trump.

Would you like to see the official court documents again, including the independent witness statement?

Why do you continue to have such appalling double standards, cods?

Why do you continue to say that women and children who cry rape are all liars?

How do you live with yourself?

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL Reply #50 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am: so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty? is TRUMP ON PAROLE?
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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #51 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:33am

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

is TRUMP ON PAROLE?

No.

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

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Reply #52 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:46am

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

is TRUMP ON PAROLE?

You do know that Trump was recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women, many women - You think that Trump was lying ?

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Reply #53 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:47am

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

is TRUMP ON PAROLE?

You would be absolutely out of your tree on the same evidence if Trump was a lefty.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #54 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:50am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:46am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

is TRUMP ON PAROLE?

You do know that Trump was recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women, many women - You think that Trump was lying ?

cods thinks all the women are lying.

She thinks the 13 year old girl lied, and she thinks the independent witness who submitted an affidavit to a New York court stating that Trump violently raped a 13 year old girl (in the company of his best friend - convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein) and then threatened to kill her and her family is lying.

However, she believes Bill Shorten is a rapist.

cods has the most appalling double standards that I have ever seen in my entire life.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #55 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:12am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:55am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile

Yes. And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

Pay attention.

He hasn't been found guilty on that charge.

It's only an allegation at this stage.

Do you understand what that means?

If you say he's guilty of that crime, then you must also say that Donald Trump is guilty of raping a 13 year old girl.

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET>>>

therein lies the difference..take your TRUMP blinker off pet..and TRUMP ISNT ON PAROLE>>.

There's a pile of evidence against Trump.

Would you like to see the official court documents again, including the independent witness statement?

Why do you continue to have such appalling double standards, cods?

Why do you continue to say that women and children who cry rape are all liars?

How do you live with yourself?

I would. PM them to me please.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #56 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:19pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:12am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:55am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

in the mean time this guy a convicted paedophile

Yes. And nobody has said anything to the contrary.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:50am:

has used and had access to a computer and a phone.......

Pay attention.

He hasn't been found guilty on that charge.

It's only an allegation at this stage.

Do you understand what that means?

If you say he's guilty of that crime, then you must also say that Donald Trump is guilty of raping a 13 year old girl.

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET>>>

therein lies the difference..take your TRUMP blinker off pet..and TRUMP ISNT ON PAROLE>>.

There's a pile of evidence against Trump.

Would you like to see the official court documents again, including the independent witness statement?

Why do you continue to have such appalling double standards, cods?

Why do you continue to say that women and children who cry rape are all liars?

How do you live with yourself?

I would. PM them to me please.

Done.

And for others interested: All Documents in the Doe v. Trump Lawsuits

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #57 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:05pm

Okay lets analyze, and calm down....

the article states: He was charged by police just a month later for allegedly breaching the conditions of the CPR by setting up an Instagram account to follow soccer superstar Cristiano Ronaldo and not telling police within the required seven days. He also was accused of using the phone to speak to a child relative.

The 1st charge, using a computer, and setting up an instagram account. It seemed that his parole actually DO allow him to use a computer, setting up an account, however, he need to report that to police within seven days. We had no information to indicate if he did reported late, and if so how late.

The 2nd charge, using the phone to speak to a child. The phone has internet. There are two things the judge would have to consider. The phone belongs to another relative apparently. So while he has access to a phone that has internet - that is not his, there is a defense that if he doesnt have any reasonable means to access the internet with it. For example if the internet is disabled on the phone, if the relative is watching him calling. And second issue is the intent of the phone call. For all we know, he could be on the phone for a few seconds just to say bye.

So as you can see, there are so many questions and details that needed to be iron out. And there is no such thing as black and white when it comes to law and punishment. The judges are legally obligated to consider all situation, even when there is mandatory sentencing attach to a crime code.

In this case, we should refrain from judgement until we know more details of whats happening.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #58 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:47am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:08am:

so evidence is meaningless and hes able to walk the streets....no TRUMP HASNT BEEN CHARGED PET

If someone is charged with an offence, are they automatically guilty?

is TRUMP ON PAROLE?

You would be absolutely out of your tree on the same evidence if Trump was a lefty.

and gregs not because hes a righty??

again dna this ism not a TRUMP THREAD.... but guess who thinks it is...

[size=24]if I was talKing about THOMO like he is about TRUMP>.. in every thread everywhere

YOU LETIES WOULD HAVE HAD ME BANNED FOR EVER..[/size

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you would never stop whinging...

yet here you are never saying a word....

Angry

keep whingeing dna. at least your good at it.

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Re: why is this pig not back in JAIL
Reply #59 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:22pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:05pm:

Okay lets analyze, and calm down....

the article states: He was charged by police just a month later for allegedly breaching the conditions of the CPR by setting up an Instagram account to follow soccer superstar Cristiano Ronaldo and not telling police within the required seven days. He also was accused of using the phone to speak to a child relative.

The 1st charge, using a computer, and setting up an instagram account. It seemed that his parole actually DO allow him to use a computer, setting up an account, however, he need to report that to police within seven days. We had no information to indicate if he did reported late, and if so how late.

The 2nd charge, using the phone to speak to a child. The phone has internet. There are two things the judge would have to consider. The phone belongs to another relative apparently. So while he has access to a phone that has internet - that is not his, there is a defense that if he doesnt have any reasonable means to access the internet with it. For example if the internet is disabled on the phone, if the relative is watching him calling. And second issue is the intent of the phone call. For all we know, he could be on the phone for a few seconds just to say bye.

So as you can see, there are so many questions and details that needed to be iron out. And there is no such thing as black and white when it comes to law and punishment. The judges are legally obligated to consider all situation, even when there is mandatory sentencing attach to a crime code.

In this case, we should refrain from judgement until we know more details of whats happening.

its an OPINION tickle thats what debate is all about... some members think its all ABOUT THEIR OWN VIEWs AND NO ONE ELSE'S

so they destroy the thread by bringing TRUMP into everything...

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