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Re: The High Court overreaches
Reply #45 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:09am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:04am:

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If I was living in another country as a guest I'd act like a guest.

James Cook , Arthur Phillip. British citizens

James Cook never did anything . He just cruised around and mapped the coast. In modern times we have laws. It was different 200 hundred plus years ago.

So, it's only laws that stop you from doing things?

Nope. I make good decisions and don't want to inflict my fu c kedupness on anybody.

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Reply #46 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 12:51pm

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 3:56am:

You can only inherit Australian citizenship through a parent, not a grandparent. If through a parent then it's a right and being a crim should not be relevant. An attachment to Aboriginal land and 40,000 years of the Dreaming is sentiment . Emotion is not Law.

"Section 72 of the Constitution provides:

The Justices of the High Court and of the other courts created by the Parliament —
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Shall not be removed except by the Governor-General in Council, on an address from both Houses of the Parliament in the same session, praying for such removal on the ground of proved misbehaviour or incapacity:"

Didn't read it, huh?

ONLY if a parent of someone born overseas applies for Australian citizenship before that person reaches age of 18, or that person applies after reaching 18.

Neither of these two made any such application, and were here on permanent residence visas - a visa can rightly be revoked for wrongdoing.

These two should be quietly rounded up and put on the next flight out.. send the bill to their families.

Why hasn't the G-G sent in the troops?

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Reply #47 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:27pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:04am:

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If I was living in another country as a guest I'd act like a guest.

James Cook , Arthur Phillip. British citizens

James Cook never did anything . He just cruised around and mapped the coast. In modern times we have laws. It was different 200 hundred plus years ago.

Cook as a naval captain declared east Australia now belonged to his king, which was enforced by George's cannons and muskets, of Arthur Phillip. Cook met men who were defending Botany Bay . He was a guest as Phillip was a guest of Gadigal country.

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Reply #48 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:31pm

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Didn't read it huh?
someone born overseas applies for Australian citizenship applies after reaching 18.

Neither of these two made any such application, and were here on permanent residence visas - a visa can rightly be revoked for wrongdoing.

I didn't say they applied, I said what the Law allows.
What on earth has the G-G and army to do with it? You crazy man , sure nuff.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #49 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:51pm Can the high court decide who and who is not diginuss? Diginus peebles are gunna want DNA tests soon because too many Wagella and sticking their snouts into the Diginus trough
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Reply #50 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 5:18pm

miketrees wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:51pm:

Can the high court decide who and who is not diginuss?

Diginus peebles are gunna want DNA tests soon because too many Wagella and sticking their snouts into the Diginus trough

how do they tell now mike? do you know?.. from what I heard from my granddaughter who is now classed as Aboriginal all she did was fill out a form....

you can of course present a bit like trannies who only have to say

I IDENTIFY AS FEMALE.....and BINGO its done..

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #51 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 5:26pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 7:34pm: Perfectly reasonable decision made by the people we should want making decisions. The idea the the politicians should decide is ridiculous, who would thrust them to make any decision. So, you'd rather have unelected officials making decisions, rather than elected officials?
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #52 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 5:30pm Quote: The Chief Justice points out in her dissent that it is settled law that it is up to parliament, relying on the Constitution, to create and define the concept of citizenship and determine who is an alien. Thank you!
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Re: The High Court overreaches
Reply #53 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 5:47pm

Abos. One way opportunism. Stone Age people suddenly accessing English Common Law.

Nuffin' for for 20-40-60-120 thousand years - but when it suits them they are all submitting to Danish/English common law.

Note that BOTH these blokes are SERIOUS criminals and Abos. BUT being an 'Abo' (who IS an Abo???) is now more important than being a violent, convicted criminal.

Abos are victims EVEN when they kick YOUR head in.

I am an Abo and so is my wife. Really. We are ALL Abos of somewhere!!!!

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Re: The High Court overreaches
Reply #54 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:32pm

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:31pm:

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Didn't read it huh?
someone born overseas applies for Australian citizenship applies after reaching 18.

Neither of these two made any such application, and were here on permanent residence visas - a visa can rightly be revoked for wrongdoing.

I didn't say they applied, I said what the Law allows.
What on earth has the G-G and army to do with it? You crazy man , sure nuff.

The law may allow it - the point is that an application had to be made, which was not done.

You mean the G-G can't send in the clowns to march the High Court out for breaching the constitution? What's the point of being a general if you can't order someone shot?

It SAYS the G-G can dismiss the court..... didn't you read that...

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Re: The High Court overreaches
Reply #55 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:34pm

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 2:27pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

chimera wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:04am:

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If I was living in another country as a guest I'd act like a guest.

James Cook , Arthur Phillip. British citizens

James Cook never did anything . He just cruised around and mapped the coast. In modern times we have laws. It was different 200 hundred plus years ago.

Cook as a naval captain declared east Australia now belonged to his king, which was enforced by George's cannons and muskets, of Arthur Phillip. Cook met men who were defending Botany Bay . He was a guest as Phillip was a guest of Gadigal country.

Aye - t'were a long time ago... all the participants are dead..... now it is TODAY ...

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13887 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #56 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 4:52am No the point is that a son of a citizen has the right to live here regardless of being crim. Even a crim son of a crim citizen. The G-G has no power except Parliament's decisions to remove a judge. Anzac was over a century ago and Jan 26 was on Jan 26. Both are held to be crucial for good citizens.
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Pedro Curevo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 500 Nth Coast NSW Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #57 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:40am If one is accepted by the Aboriginal community as Aboriginal then by law they are Aboriginal, and Aboriginal rights to land predates European settlement.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13887 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #58 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:51am Taken literally , it means the High Court building is on Indigenous country and the judges are evicted if they breach traditional Law.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #59 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 8:24am Pedro Curevo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:40am: If one is accepted by the Aboriginal community as Aboriginal then by law they are Aboriginal, and Aboriginal rights to land predates European settlement. what about if a 100% white person is accepted as aboriginal by a aboriginal community?
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