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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13635 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #135 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 6:44am Quote: Are they claiming the entire nation as their personal property? Yes. next question.
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Pedro Curevo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 500 Nth Coast NSW Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #136 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:10am Law states that Aboriginal people have to prove ownership of land before it is handed back...if you own your property it cannot be taken...and if you don't like Australian law then free to return to your ancestral land. The RW are always fear mongering as a diversion...
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Re: The High Court overreaches
Reply #137 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:24am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 2:32pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 11:06am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 11:01am:

mothra wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 10:58am:

No worries Doomer

Closest i'll get to an apology.

I'll take it.

You can dream about taking something you didn't get ...... sometimes imagination is a good thing.

But you're just being the empty vessel.

Is this video one of those ageist and generationalist nonsenses providing no solid answer to anything trotted about for the indoctrination of the useful tools out there, who somehow imagine they can cure all the world's problems by blaming groups - and yet if anyone blamed a group - such as Aborigines - for the highest rate of violence etc, these same useful tools would screech from the rooftops?

Amazing... simply amazing...

** enter stage left, Greta screeching empty platitudes and chorus repeating "how dare you.. how dare you.. how dare you.. how dare you - sotto voce**

Grin

it's all they've got.

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Reply #138 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:33am

Frank wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

Many Indians and Sri Lankans look very much like Aborigines, and no wonder

https://www.pnas.org/content/110/5/1803

If An Irishman can be Aborigine, why not Indians?

In QLD & my area there are mixed race families, who are mainly Ceylonese(Sri Lankan) who claim to be Aboriginals.

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Reply #139 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:42am

chimera wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 4:26pm:

overlooking the simple reality that you are seeking preferential treatment on the basis of some flimsy point...
Tenez Le Droit - does not translate to Tenuous Rot.

"Sydney man, Bill Gertos, took possession of a home in 1998, after its occupant died.

After noticing the abandoned property, he changed the locks, performed renovations and rented it out, before recently bringing a court application to apply for ownership.

The test Mr Gertos needed to prove to be entitled to legal ownership of the land was:

He had uninterrupted possession of the property for at least 12 years (the same applies in Queensland and Western Australia, however in Victoria and South Australia it is 15 years)."

11 years pass. "Mr Gertos that's my dad's house."
"Oh no it's not heh heh..It's all mine".
"It would be in 5 days, but now it's mine"
"5 days?"
"5 days".

So in effect he trespassed, broke & entered ... didn't even squat ....

to me he stole a house & made money from it.

So if someone from the family who actually owned it fronted him ...... if he has effectively won the right to the house.....

the total he made in rent from the time he started until his claim was actually granted should be paid to the real owners.

Mr. Gertos is not a nice man .... in fact he's a scumbag & a thief.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13635 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #140 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:44am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 6:52pm: Are they then going to take care of everyone in this nation at this time out of their own pockets, and run everything in that nation? Yes . Uncle Max gets NSW. Auntie Beryl has Gold Coast. The rest is up for grabs.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13635 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #141 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:49am Gnads wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:42am: the total he made in rent from the time he started until his claim was actually granted should be paid to the real owners. Mr. Gertos is not a nice man .... in fact he's a scumbag & a thief. He entered in 1770. That's 250 years rent , Graps will pay.
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Reply #142 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:54am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 16^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

How does someone from the New England area, who decided to settle in Nambucca Heads ten years ago - get to claim 'traditional ownership' of Nambucca Heads? Just some loose affiliation unrecorded with the locals?

Where are the records, including births etc, to PROVE that people actually have a claim?

How would YOU go claiming a house in Little Bay or Darling Point that way? come in, rent a flat for ten years, get a 'tribal affiliation' and then say it's YOUR land?

Most of these Aboriginals are NOT locals at all - so what now? Are they claiming the entire nation as their personal property?

Are they then going to take care of everyone in this nation at this time out of their own pockets, and run everything in that nation? Cool

Yep goes on all over the country .... remember when they were doing a big clean up in Sydney for the Olympics?

Aboriginals families were paid to move to other locations, even to QLD.

About 2 hrs west of where I live is a small agricultral/citrus fruit growing town called Gayndah.

Several families were moved there ..... & it wasn't 5 mins before the trouble started.

Fighting & assaulting people in the main street, breaking & entering, attacking local Indigenous families in their own home .......

and making stupid claims that they had land rights over the area.

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Reply #143 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:06am

chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:49am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 8:42am:

the total he made in rent from the time he started until his claim was actually granted should be paid to the real owners.

Mr. Gertos is not a nice man .... in fact he's a scumbag & a thief.

He entered in 1770. That's 250 years rent , Graps will pay.

No one entered in 1770.

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Mr Gertos claims he spent about $35,000 on repairing the home but “was unable to locate any records to substantiate this claim”.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/squatter-selling-house-for-millions-065714493.html

What a grub.

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Reply #144 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:19am

Gnads wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:06am:

No one entered in 1770.

A metal plaque at Botany Bay:

"FROM THIS SMALL STREAM
CAPTAIN COOK
TOOK WATER FOR HIS SHIP
ENDEAVOUR
WHICH ENTERED THE HEADS 29th APRIL 1770

On a worn metal sign on a stone, there is a chart and the legend reads:

Cook’s stream
Cook obtained fresh water for ‘Endeavour’ from this
stream and from wells dug in the sand close to the
landing place.
“Sunday 29th (Log date) – After breakfast we sent some
Empty Casks a shore and a party of men to cut wood,
and I went myself in the pinnace to sound and explore
the bay” (Cook’s Journal April, 1770)."

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Reply #145 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:36am

chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:19am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:06am:

No one entered in 1770.

A metal plaque at Botany Bay:

"FROM THIS SMALL STREAM
CAPTAIN COOK
TOOK WATER FOR HIS SHIP
ENDEAVOUR
WHICH ENTERED THE HEADS 29th APRIL 1770

On a worn metal sign on a stone, there is a chart and the legend reads:

Cook’s stream
Cook obtained fresh water for ‘Endeavour’ from this
stream and from wells dug in the sand close to the
landing place.
“Sunday 29th (Log date) – After breakfast we sent some
Empty Casks a shore and a party of men to cut wood,
and I went myself in the pinnace to sound and explore
the bay” (Cook’s Journal April, 1770)."

The topic between you & I was introduced by you .... & it was about Bill Gertos.

Changing it back to Capt. Cook .... he never entered either ... except coastal streams for water & onto a small Island (Possession Island) off the tip of Cape York QLD where he claimed possession of the east coast of Australia for Britain.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13635 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #146 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:57am The Gertos land was to make the point about taking an historic right to possession. You condemn it. You can read that Cook entered land at Botany Bay and stole 1) water and 2) firewood. Also entered at Possession island and stole..possession of half a continent.
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Reply #147 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 10:19am

chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:57am:

The Gertos land was to make the point about taking an historic right to possession. You condemn it.

You can read that Cook entered land at Botany Bay and stole 1) water and 2) firewood. Also entered at Possession island and stole..possession of half a continent.

You can call the action Gertos took historic if you wish...

he acquired the property under an unusual squatter’s rights law that should be eliminated
from our system.

It really has no relevance to the vast swathes of Australia that is being locked up under land rights claims for the benefit of one ethnic group.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32489 Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #148 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 10:20am chimera wrote on Feb 17^th, 2020 at 9:57am: The Gertos land was to make the point about taking an historic right to possession. You condemn it. You can read that Cook entered land at Botany Bay and stole 1) water and 2) firewood. Also entered at Possession island and stole..possession of half a continent. What rot.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13635 Armidale Gender:	Re: The High Court overreaches Reply #149 - Feb 17^th, 2020 at 10:29am Why? What are the facts of history? Did he get permission? Australian Firewoodwww.australianfirewood.com.au Delivering Quality Ironbark Firewood To Sydney. Firewood is available all year round. We supply Ironbark ... Firewood Cleaning Pack Special - $499. 1 Tonne
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