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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #60 - Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:46pm lee wrote on Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:25pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:19pm: no, i was making a point making a point on something that didn't happen. It's actually not surprising that you miss the point
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Reply #61 - Feb 9^th, 2020 at 11:17am

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:46pm:

It's actually not surprising that you miss the point

Ah. i see aid the blind man who was lying because he couldn't see at all.

So Musk, having presumably requested armourplate glass (which is what I would have thought was sensible as his marketing ploy), should not have tested it with a steel ball lobbed at the window. Instead he should have sold the ute as is marketed as armourplate glass, and have his a*se sued off when it was shown it wasn't by an irate customer or significant other; should the customer be the victim. Grin

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15451 Armidale Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #62 - Feb 9^th, 2020 at 11:25am Yes , he uses Scotty from marketing.
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Reply #63 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:51am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:09am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:59am:

minarchist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:02am:

While the video doesn't account for a conversion efficiency of 20% for petrol and 30% for diesel, petrochemical fuels are still the better energy storage medium:

Agreed. The ICE is a work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience. To declare other is a clear sign that over educated fools have officially reached peak stupid. Alternatively, their agenda is on display...to anyone with a functioning brain cell.

So why does it need a massive cooling system and how much energy is thrown away as heat and heating up brake rotors ?

And why does it need constant maintenance otherwise it will fail catastrophically ? Hardly call that a "work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience" Cheesy

LOL

When you factor in all the components in an ICE vehicle that require maintenance, the engine only makes a proportion of what needs to be maintained. While buying an EV saves you on engine maintenance, you still need to maintain and/or replace tyres, brakes, suspension components, standard auto electrics, etc. Plus, the main components in an EV are often liquid anyway to reduce their size. If the cooling system fails for those components they will burn out fairly quickly and need to be replaced.

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16912 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #64 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:46pm The worst part is the need to replace the entire battery array after so many years. A massive expense.
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Reply #65 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 4:55pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 11:17am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:46pm:

It's actually not surprising that you miss the point

Ah. i see aid the blind man who was lying because he couldn't see at all.

So Musk, having presumably requested armourplate glass (which is what I would have thought was sensible as his marketing ploy), should not have tested it with a steel ball lobbed at the window. Instead he should have sold the ute as is marketed as armourplate glass, and have his a*se sued off when it was shown it wasn't by an irate customer or significant other; should the customer be the victim. Grin

you're an idiot .. if the glass fails Musk doesn't get sued, he replaces it under consumer protection laws. Likewise, musk is protected by those same laws and his supplier supplies musk with glass that meets the specified standard. It's up to the supplier to make sure his glass meets the standard it was supposed to meet, not musk.

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Reply #66 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:59pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 4:55pm:

if the glass fails Musk doesn't get sued, he replaces it under consumer protection laws.

As the manufacturer of the vehicle he is in the gun first and foremost. He can then sue the glass manufacturer to recover his costs.

"Sometimes an action may be taken against the manufacturer instead of, or as well as against the supplier. For example, the contract might not give the injured person the necessary legal rights or the manufacturer may be better able to meet large claims because it is adequately insured. There are statutory rights against manufacturers under the Australian Consumer Law, which is contained in schedule 2 of the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth).

Manufacturers are usually sued for breach of the guarantees contained in the Australian Consumer Law [see in particular schedule 2, ss 54-56], for breach of other provisions of the Australian Consumer Law [see in particular shcedule 2, ss 106 and 138] or for negligence at common law.

The extent to which negligence, or carelessness, must be proved varies from case to case. It commonly involves satisfying the court that it was more probable than not that the plaintiff's injury was caused by the negligence of the manufacturer"

https://lawhandbook.sa.gov.au/ch29s06s03.php

If Musk sells his product as having a certain standard of fit, he is in breach.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #67 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:08pm you're an idiot lee ...
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21609 Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #68 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:11pm John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:08pm: you're an idiot lee .. So no cogent reasons. How totally unsurprising. What a pathetic comeback. Johnny the would be lawyer.
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Reply #69 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:29pm

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:08pm:

you're an idiot lee ..

So no cogent reasons. How totally unsurprising. Grin

What a pathetic comeback. Johnny the would be lawyer. Grin

you don't listen anyway. i already told you, if the windows crack he's not going to get sued. He'll be required to replace them under consumer laws, sure ... but not sued.

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Reply #70 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:39pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:08pm:

you're an idiot lee ..

So no cogent reasons. How totally unsurprising. Grin

What a pathetic comeback. Johnny the would be lawyer. Grin

you don't listen anyway. i already told you, if the windows crack he's not going to get sued. He'll be required to replace them under consumer laws, sure ... but not sued.

The windows didn't just crack petal as I told you. They were smashed. Now what caused them to smash? What about injuries caused by the smashed windows?

You are a complete waste of space. Roll Eyes

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Reply #71 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:52pm

lee wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

The windows didn't just crack petal as I told you. They were smashed. Now what caused them to smash? What about injuries caused by the smashed windows?

You are a complete waste of space.

yeah ... cause there are lots of metal balls flying around the freeways Cheesy

you moron

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21609 Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #72 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:31pm John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:52pm: cause there are lots of metal balls flying around the freeways What makes you think it would be restricted to metal balls petal? What makes you think it will only happen of freeways?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15451 Armidale Gender:	Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035 Reply #73 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 6:39am You never know where Bridget will fire her shotgun next.
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