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Reply #30 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:59am

minarchist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:02am:

While the video doesn't account for a conversion efficiency of 20% for petrol and 30% for diesel, petrochemical fuels are still the better energy storage medium:

Agreed. The ICE is a work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience. To declare other is a clear sign that over educated fools have officially reached peak stupid. Alternatively, their agenda is on display...to anyone with a functioning brain cell.

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #31 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #32 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:07am

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:34pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:42pm:

Bad luck you and socko sat there bagging Tesla all of these years instead of following them and coming up with your own home grown products to create lots of jobs and growth.

But aren't you an international businessman? Surely that would be in your wheelhouse. Wink

So you are now an EV owner? Good for you.

Funny how the LNP can't see jobs in renewables and associated industries. Only when it comes to destroying the planet can they see jobs Sad

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #33 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:09am

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:59am:

minarchist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:02am:

While the video doesn't account for a conversion efficiency of 20% for petrol and 30% for diesel, petrochemical fuels are still the better energy storage medium:

Agreed. The ICE is a work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience. To declare other is a clear sign that over educated fools have officially reached peak stupid. Alternatively, their agenda is on display...to anyone with a functioning brain cell.

So why does it need a massive cooling system and how much energy is thrown away as heat and heating up brake rotors ?

And why does it need constant maintenance otherwise it will fail catastrophically ? Hardly call that a "work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience" Cheesy

LOL

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Reply #34 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:13am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:09am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:59am:

minarchist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:02am:

While the video doesn't account for a conversion efficiency of 20% for petrol and 30% for diesel, petrochemical fuels are still the better energy storage medium:

Agreed. The ICE is a work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience. To declare other is a clear sign that over educated fools have officially reached peak stupid. Alternatively, their agenda is on display...to anyone with a functioning brain cell.

So why does it need a massive cooling system and how much energy is thrown away as heat and heating up brake rotors ?

And why does it need constant maintenance otherwise it will fail catastrophically ? Hardly call that a "work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience" Cheesy

LOL

Can you at least be realistic?

At the moment, convenience in terms of refuelling, ICE wins.

EVs have improved massively, but they are still behind

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Reply #35 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:31am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

Really? When your machinery uses 1000ltrs per 24 hrs of use, and your running 6-7 days a week round the clock, do you really think the 100 litres you use in your car a week or fortnight makes any difference.

Stop thinking like a city dweller...most highway trucks carry 1500-2000 litres, even they burn at 40-50 litres an hour or 100km...which is the same as a full tank in your VW Golf.

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #36 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:38am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:09am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:59am:

minarchist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:02am:

While the video doesn't account for a conversion efficiency of 20% for petrol and 30% for diesel, petrochemical fuels are still the better energy storage medium:

Agreed. The ICE is a work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience. To declare other is a clear sign that over educated fools have officially reached peak stupid. Alternatively, their agenda is on display...to anyone with a functioning brain cell.

So why does it need a massive cooling system and how much energy is thrown away as heat and heating up brake rotors ?

And why does it need constant maintenance otherwise it will fail catastrophically ? Hardly call that a "work of absolute efficiency, effectiveness and convenience" Cheesy

LOL

Get real. Millions of people jump into ICE powered vehicles every day with zero issues. Millions.

If you think the EVs are gonna be fault free think again. You are beyond stupid.

Over priced toys for overpaid virtue signalling fools.

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #37 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:43am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

If the public rather than those with vested interests thought this, then the the Ford Mustang 5.0ltr wouldn't have sold a single unit.....however, reality says other, even Ford can't believe their Mustang sales figures. Appears we want real cars, not overpriced golf carts with that fraudster musks grubby name on them.

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #38 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:04am

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:43am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

If the public rather than those with vested interests thought this, then the the Ford Mustang 5.0ltr wouldn't have sold a single unit.....however, reality says other, even Ford can't believe their Mustang sales figures. Appears we want real cars, not overpriced golf carts with that fraudster musks grubby name on them.

You're comparing apples with oranges.

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Re: Britain to ban the sale offossil fool cars by 2035
Reply #39 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:05am

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

Really? When your machinery uses 1000ltrs per 24 hrs of use, and your running 6-7 days a week round the clock, do you really think the 100 litres you use in your car a week or fortnight makes any difference.

Stop thinking like a city dweller...most highway trucks carry 1500-2000 litres, even they burn at 40-50 litres an hour or 100km...which is the same as a full tank in your VW Golf.

Not all farmers use a heap of machinery. E.g. how much machinery do you think is involved in sheep farming?

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Reply #40 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:58am

John Smith wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 6:07pm:

do you think he manufactures the glass himself?

Poor Petal. So out of his depth - again. The glass would be made under contract to Tesla specs. if the product wasn't the quality assured they would sue the manufacturer. BUT they would test the product (or at least should) before putting it on a demo vehicle.

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Reply #41 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 12:34pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

Really? When your machinery uses 1000ltrs per 24 hrs of use, and your running 6-7 days a week round the clock, do you really think the 100 litres you use in your car a week or fortnight makes any difference.

Stop thinking like a city dweller...most highway trucks carry 1500-2000 litres, even they burn at 40-50 litres an hour or 100km...which is the same as a full tank in your VW Golf.

Not all farmers use a heap of machinery. E.g. how much machinery do you think is involved in sheep farming?

With respect I've forgotten more about running sheep than you know.Vast majority of farmers have moved away from sheep. 65million head today versus 170 million in the 1990's (my early days), 180 million in the 1960's (my fathers days), we are now equivalent to the 1880's with current figures.

Pissy little fuel savings are meaningless when you can't even afford to buy a new Hilux , which is evactly where today's sheep grazier is placed.

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Reply #42 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 12:54pm

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

Really? When your machinery uses 1000ltrs per 24 hrs of use, and your running 6-7 days a week round the clock, do you really think the 100 litres you use in your car a week or fortnight makes any difference.

Stop thinking like a city dweller...most highway trucks carry 1500-2000 litres, even they burn at 40-50 litres an hour or 100km...which is the same as a full tank in your VW Golf.

Not all farmers use a heap of machinery. E.g. how much machinery do you think is involved in sheep farming?

With respect I've forgotten more about running sheep than you know.Vast majority of farmers have moved away from sheep. 65million head today versus 170 million in the 1990's (my early days), 180 million in the 1960's (my fathers days), we are now equivalent to the 1880's with current figures.

Pissy little fuel savings are meaningless when you can't even afford to buy a new Hilux , which is evactly where today's sheep grazier is placed.

So we still have sheep, and you didn't answer my question. And I'd dispute the forgotten more bit.

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Reply #43 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 4:28pm

15 years will fly past if the last 15 are anything to go by..

so what happens to all those jobs and business mainly Service Stations plus staff plus tanker drivers...plus.any oil refineries that are left?..... what about mechanics.?

what about trucks will they be electric??????..

do electric cars need any maintenance?

are the tyres be the same......

how safe are they?...

will they be made from comalco alfoil? Roll Eyes

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Reply #44 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 4:51pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 12:54pm:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Rider wrote on Feb 7^th, 2020 at 8:55am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 2:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

lee wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 6^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

Or people doing some basic research

Poor petal. Trying so hard to be relevant.

Have you bought your new EV yet? Or even a second hand one? If not why not?

Range anxiety?

At the moment, there is no EV that fits my particular needs. ONce there is, I will look at it.

Well then keep taking it up the arse at the fossil fool bowser and on parts and service. Be my guest. BTW someone said they can get 400k's out of a Tesla Model 3 !! Try walking that distance next time Wink

Jesus christ, I'm on your side you idiot. I'm simply saying that currently as it stands, no EV fits my particular needs, unless you can point me to a on the market EV, that has the ability to really go off road.\

your unusual needs are of no consequence to the general driving public. Cheesy

LOL

Quite a lot of people drive off road. E.g. I was reading an article that one of the biggest groups pestering Toyota fro hybrids was farmers.

I doubt grass roots farmers would be doing that, perhaps a greenie infiltraitor in one of the lobby groups??

Toyota would do well to bring out the Tundra to Aust with a 5 or 6 litre diesel....and watch the sales rip.

Why? Farmers are looking for any way to reduce their costs, reducing fuel use would be a saving.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/toyota-hilux-hybrid-and-toyota-land-cruise...

Really? When your machinery uses 1000ltrs per 24 hrs of use, and your running 6-7 days a week round the clock, do you really think the 100 litres you use in your car a week or fortnight makes any difference.

Stop thinking like a city dweller...most highway trucks carry 1500-2000 litres, even they burn at 40-50 litres an hour or 100km...which is the same as a full tank in your VW Golf.

Not all farmers use a heap of machinery. E.g. how much machinery do you think is involved in sheep farming?

With respect I've forgotten more about running sheep than you know.Vast majority of farmers have moved away from sheep. 65million head today versus 170 million in the 1990's (my early days), 180 million in the 1960's (my fathers days), we are now equivalent to the 1880's with current figures.

Pissy little fuel savings are meaningless when you can't even afford to buy a new Hilux , which is evactly where today's sheep grazier is placed.

So we still have sheep, and you didn't answer my question. And I'd dispute the forgotten more bit.

Moot point. Can't make enough money out of sheep to afford a new Hilux...if and when...next 4 years maybe lol....Toyota think about making one with some sort of hibrid motor....diesel and rubber bands maybe?

No reference to the industry nagging Toyota? Did you make that bit up?

Banning ICE is peak dumb. Gonna be around for a long time yet.

These politicians better ban rope too.

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