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Reply #1935 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:23am
 
That was Aussie
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1936 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:26am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:21am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:34am:
If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.


And if they told you they weren't?



Then I would examine the animal theory more closely.

Could parts of 5 different viruses that attack humans just turn up in animals by chance?

One part was from HIV AIDS.  Embarrassed


China has already denied any involvement in developing COVID-19 as a bioweapon, particularly through the Wuhan lab.
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Reply #1937 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:27am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:21am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:34am:
If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.


And if they told you they weren't?



Then I would examine the animal theory more closely.

Could parts of 5 different viruses that attack humans just turn up in animals by chance?

One part was from HIV AIDS.  Embarrassed


You have been told it was SIMILAR to AIDS not that it was.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1938 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 7:32pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:21am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:34am:
If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.


And if they told you they weren't?



Then I would examine the animal theory more closely.

Could parts of 5 different viruses that attack humans just turn up in animals by chance?

One part was from HIV AIDS.  Embarrassed


China has already denied any involvement in developing COVID-19 as a bioweapon, particularly through the Wuhan lab.



Of course they denied it -
just like Erin Patterson denied everything.   Roll Eyes
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1939 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 8:17am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 7:32pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 9:21am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:34am:
If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.


And if they told you they weren't?



Then I would examine the animal theory more closely.

Could parts of 5 different viruses that attack humans just turn up in animals by chance?

One part was from HIV AIDS.  Embarrassed


China has already denied any involvement in developing COVID-19 as a bioweapon, particularly through the Wuhan lab.



Of course they denied it -
just like Erin Patterson denied everything.   Roll Eyes


So you'll only believe them when they say something you like?

You don't see a problem with that logic?

Your beliefs are guiding what you'll consider evidence, not the other way around.
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Reply #1940 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 8:27am
 
A high school dropout, like Booby, has no training in logic, in analysis and that shows.
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Reply #1941 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 11:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 8:27am:
A high school dropout, like Booby, has no training in logic, in analysis and that shows.



Monk is projecting his own high school failures on to me.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1942 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:17pm
 
LOL.

I know who the high school dropout is!
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Reply #1943 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:18pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:17pm:
LOL.

I know who the high school dropout is!



Well it's not me so it must be you.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1944 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:21pm
 
No. At the best you might have finished high school but I strongly doubt you did.


My testamur, redacted:

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Reply #1945 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 4:35pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:21pm:
No. At the best you might have finished high school but I strongly doubt you did.


My testamur, redacted:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/IMG_0953.jpeg



Then how come you couldn't answer any chemistry questions
or make some good comments about rocks?


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Reply #1946 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 5:11pm
 
You wanted me to identify your rocks, I did tho not having two key data, SG and hardness.

Geology is not mineralogy.

Now—6 years of, frankly unbelievable claim, of 6 years tertiary study and you should be able to post some evidence of that, a testamur of some stage of your “study.”

Larry couldn’t either and he ran away.
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Reply #1947 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 6:00pm
 
Guess Booby lied and is a high school dropout after all.

Well, I knew that. Total lack of education.
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Reply #1948 - Aug 27th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
If you want to see some actual evidence:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1755854761/1#1
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Reply #1949 - Sep 11th, 2025 at 8:46am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:52am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 21st, 2025 at 5:48am:
So—what has Fauci actually done? This thread shows that all your allegations are null and void.

Answer in detail with relevant links.



Read this whole thread again.


Fauci supplied forbidden/illegal gain of function technology and money to Wuhan
to make the Covid-19 bioweapon which escaped and killed 7 million people -
1 million of them his fellow Americans.
It also caused over $40 trillion in economic damage to the world.

Fauci will now get off Scot free and has shown no remorse.


No one with any sense would pay the Chinese to develop, in China, a bioweapon to use. . .against the Chinese.

As to this “gain of function” research you get so hot under the collar about:

Quote:
Trump admin wants to curtail 'gain-of-function' research — but it's a cornerstone of biology, scientists say


Gain-of-function experiments can help researchers get ahead of viruses naturally gaining the ability to infect people in the wild. But they're also used for many other areas of study within biology.


In May 2025, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to restrict research on viruses and pathogens called gain-of-function studies. The National Institutes of Health is now taking steps to cancel dozens of such studies — including ones that have been deemed safe by agency scientists who reviewed them, according to Science magazine and The Washington Post.

The term "gain of function" is often taken to refer to research with viruses that puts society at risk of an infectious disease outbreak for questionable gain. Some research on emerging viruses can result in variants that gain the ability to infect people, but this does not necessarily mean the research is dangerous or that it is not fruitful. Concerns have focused on lab research on the virus that causes bird flu in 2012 and on the virus that causes COVID-19 since 2020.

The possibility that a genetically modified virus could escape the lab needs to be taken seriously. But it does not mean that gain-of-function experiments are inherently risky or the purview of mad scientists. In fact, gain-of-function approaches are a fundamental tool in biology used to study much more than just viruses, contributing to many, if not most, modern discoveries in the field, including penicillin, cancer immunotherapies and drought-resistant crops.


Penicillin:
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The development of most antibiotics have relied on the manipulation of bacteria or mold in gain-of-function experiments. Alexander Fleming's initial discovery that the mold Penicillium rubens could produce a compound toxic to bacteria was a profound medical advance. But it wasn't until scientists experimented with growth conditions and mold strains that therapeutic use of penicillin became feasible. Using a specific growth medium allowed the mold to gain the function of increased penicillin production, which was essential for its mass production and widespread use as a drug.


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Research on antibiotic resistance also relies heavily on gain-of-function approaches. Studying how bacteria gain resistance against drugs is essential to developing new treatments microbes are unable to evade quickly.

Gain-of-function research in virology has also been critical to the advancement of science and health. Oncolytic viruses are genetically modified in the laboratory to infect and kill cancerous cells like melanoma. Similarly, the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine contains an adenovirus altered to produce the spike protein that helps the COVID-19 virus infect cells. Scientists developed live attenuated flu vaccines by adapting them to grow at low temperatures and thereby lose the ability to grow at human lung temperatures.

By giving viruses new functions, scientists were able to develop new tools to treat and prevent disease.


So, have a read, Booby (as if!) and see gain of function is not necessarily evil.

https://www.livescience.com/health/trump-admin-wants-to-curtail-gain-of-function...
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