Bobby. wrote on Aug 7^th, 2025 at 4:45pm:


You've just done exactly what I called out in the question, dodged it entirely. I didn't ask what it would take for you to believe it was a lab leak, or whether China is guilty, or whether Fauci is the devil. I asked what it would take for you to accept that it might not have been, what evidence would you need to consider a natural origin plausible?

Do you still to this day not understand how evidence works?

And more importantly, are you applying that evidentiary standard consistently, or are you just assuming guilt and shifting the burden of proof because it suits the narrative you've already decided on?

This constant sleight of hand, where you pretend to engage with the question but instead just pivot back to your own talking points, is exactly the kind of intellectual cowardice that keeps real discussion impossible.

So again, plainly: What would it actually take for you to accept that COVID may have jumped from animals to humans?

You do realise that disproving one theory does not automatically prove another, right?

I asked you plainly, what specific evidence would it take for you to accept the possibility that COVID jumped from one species to another? And your answer didn't include anything remotely resembling a criterion to verify that outcome.  Not a hint of intellectual honesty, just more (possibly subconscious) sleight of hand.

You've made it abundantly clear, you've decided it was a lab leak. That's the lens you're committed to now. You're no longer investigating, you're defending a belief.

It's like me asking what evidence you'd need to believe your fridge is full of cheeseburgers, and your answer is, "Well, we need an inquiry into how many cheeseburgers are in your fridge, and if there are none, the only logical conclusion is that mine must be packed with them."

That's still not evidence of what is in your fridge.

You're not weighing evidence, you're trying to manufacture certainty by eliminating one scenario and declaring the other must therefore be true, or if what you believe can't be disproved, for which you'll set the goalposts to achieve and move them where nessisary, it therefore must be true.

After all this time, after all your boasts about "pages of evidence", you still don't understand what evidence is.

Either that, or you've constructed an intellectual fortress so rigid that no natural origin hypothesis could ever meet the standard, because you'll just move the goalposts every time it's close.

You're not arguing the facts. You're clinging to an ideology that needs one thing to be true so badly that you're blind to how unscientific your reasoning has become.

Elimination?

You sit down, eliminate then flush!

But eliminating one possibility does not automatically mean the other possibility is the culprit—it could be something else entirely! For example, say Taiwan had developed the covid virus and tried to infect a small town in China but it wasn’t as deadly as Taiwan hoped. Taiwan stayed shtum and let the lab/wet market argument proceed.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 8:25am:



Can you comprehend what I wrote?

Again -


We would need to find out about every scientist at Wuhan -
move them and their families out of China to say Holland  * -
and allow them to appear in an independent inquiry.

If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.

However -
when Australia asked for a proper independent inquiry
China put sanctions on us that cost us $billions in trade.

China has hidden the truth because they are guilty.

*
( why get them and their families out of China? -
because there is no way they can tell the truth when in China -
they would be "disappeared" along with their families. )

By the way - people like Fauci need to be part of it.
The charge is that he sent money and forbidden gene splicing technology to Wuhan
which he knew could be used to make a bio weapon.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 8:38am:



Stop trying to be a CCP apologist.

We asked for an inquiry and they slapped $billions in sanctions on us -

still no inquiry.   

Bobby. wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 8:34am:


And if they told you they weren't?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 8:48am:


No CCP apologist! I was pointing out your “elimination” is flawed.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 8^th, 2025 at 9:07am:



yes you are -
you were once a hero of the Soviet Union.