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Sir Spot of Borg

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Jan 29^th, 2020 at 7:24pm

So. Apparently the charities dont know what to do with the money so they are doing nothing. Heres what to do:

Take trucks to the areas full of water the makings of shelters and food maybe clothes too. Dont bother checking everyones id - if they haven't lost everything what does it matter if they get some free water and food? If they are in that area they are in trouble.

Geez. If i can figger that out why cant they?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47469 At my desk.	Re: Charities Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2020 at 7:34pm We could start growing rice in the desert again using free water trucked in from the coast under the guise of bushfire relief.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131554 Gender:	Re: Charities Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:29pm Maybe the money should be handed over to Mr Trump and his kids (the ones he likes). They know how to handle charity funds.
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Reply #3 - Jan 29^th, 2020 at 11:46pm

Someone in the group I've been working with came up with a brilliant temporary shower - many people have no showers etc... two of those plastic 1000l water things, one on top of the other with the middle bits removed and a doorway cut, and a curtain on a rail - and hey presto - easy portable shower (once fitted with nozzle etc)...

A charity could fund a Men's Shed or two to make those... the old guys would love to..

I've got donated poly pipe and connectors here.... go a long way....

Also collect washing machine pumps with motor - they work a treat in giving pressure - used one on my farm years ago... free pump from a roadside dump... easy to rig up.... most have power back so no problem...

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6209 Gender:	Re: Charities Reply #4 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:51am How many times do you hear charities screaming out for donations....now they have them they have no idea what to do with them.....BULLSHIT. Some fat pig is racking in millions in interest. I call bullshyte.
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Reply #5 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:03am

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:51am:

How many times do you hear charities screaming out for donations....now they have them they have no idea what to do with them.....BULLSHIT.
Some fat pig is racking in millions in interest.
I call bullshyte.

They were going on about how they wanted money not "things" but if they gave the things out they wouldn't pile up. The ppl in the fire areas need those things. who cares about ID?

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Reply #6 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:20am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:51am:

How many times do you hear charities screaming out for donations....now they have them they have no idea what to do with them.....BULLSHIT.
Some fat pig is racking in millions in interest.
I call bullshyte.

They were going on about how they wanted money not "things" but if they gave the things out they wouldn't pile up. The ppl in the fire areas need those things. who cares about ID?

Spot

"We"'ve had problems with things piling up - in the first rush people donated everything in sight... now it has settled into a routine and connections pretty much, and various areas can request the supplies they know they need.

The next phase of re-building assistance is more complex - especially without funding - since temporary erections (sic) are often over-run at random by insurance and work beginning.

Hence the idea of transportable shower cubicles... very good idea.

As for ID - well yes and no - there have been cases of people who are hangers-on arriving at evacuation points and dropping in for a freebie. On the other hand - some stuff we've collected, I've just said 'wherever it's needed'... and trust the storage person to know what's what... local knowledge.

Unfortunately due to some pilfering, there has developed a need to formally ID those who distribute etc... and for some things a referral is required from Colonel C'Link or a registered charity... human nature creeps in, I'm afraid.... someone has developed a database of burnt out homes in one area (that I know of), so address checks help a lot... but then there are people who 'couch surf' etc who are doubly homeless now as well..

What judgement call do you make? Feed, clothe and shelter 'em all.. let Allah sort 'em out...

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Re: Charities
Reply #7 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:29am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:51am:

How many times do you hear charities screaming out for donations....now they have them they have no idea what to do with them.....BULLSHIT.
Some fat pig is racking in millions in interest.
I call bullshyte.

They were going on about how they wanted money not "things" but if they gave the things out they wouldn't pile up. The ppl in the fire areas need those things. who cares about ID?

Spot

"We"'ve had problems with things piling up - in the first rush people donated everything in sight... now it has settled into a routine and connections pretty much, and various areas can request the supplies they know they need.

The next phase of re-building assistance is more complex - especially without funding - since temporary erections (sic) are often over-run at random by insurance and work beginning.

Hence the idea of transportable shower cubicles... very good idea.

As for ID - well yes and no - there have been cases of people who are hangers-on arriving at evacuation points and dropping in for a freebie. On the other hand - some stuff we've collected, I've just said 'wherever it's needed'... and trust the storage person to know what's what... local knowledge.

Unfortunately due to some pilfering, there has developed a need to formally ID those who distribute etc... and for some things a referral is required from Colonel C'Link or a registered charity... human nature creeps in, I'm afraid.... someone has developed a database of burnt out homes in one area (that I know of), so address checks help a lot... but then there are people who 'couch surf' etc who are doubly homeless now as well..

What judgement call do you make? Feed, clothe and shelter 'em all.. let Allah sort 'em out...

Yup. Let allah sort them out. Seriously who cares if someone drops in for a freebie as long as the ppl that need it are getting help? Im not talking abotu handing out heaps of money here - im talking about the "things" food clothes water tools etc (maybe those showers)

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Reply #8 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 2:06pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 11:03am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:51am:

How many times do you hear charities screaming out for donations....now they have them they have no idea what to do with them.....BULLSHIT.
Some fat pig is racking in millions in interest.
I call bullshyte.

They were going on about how they wanted money not "things" but if they gave the things out they wouldn't pile up. The ppl in the fire areas need those things. who cares about ID?

Spot

Yep. I agree.

I smell a rat here. Someone is holding out for some reason. My guess....financial gain.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28107 Gender:	Re: Charities Reply #9 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:21pm That's why I'm glad I didn't give to the Red Cross they're sitting on $60 million of the donations given specifically for the bush fire victims. And here's Pecker & mothballs supporting their 15% to 20% admin costs. Just a little more than that isn't it.
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Reply #10 - Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:22pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

That's why I'm glad I didn't give to the Red Cross

they're sitting on $60 million of the donations given specifically for the bush fire victims.

And here's Pecker & mothballs supporting their 15% to 20% admin costs.

Just a little more than that isn't it. Roll Eyes

I'd support them even if the admin costs were 50%.

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Reply #11 - Jan 31^st, 2020 at 6:35pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 30^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

That's why I'm glad I didn't give to the Red Cross

they're sitting on $60 million of the donations given specifically for the bush fire victims.

And here's Pecker & mothballs supporting their 15% to 20% admin costs.

Just a little more than that isn't it. Roll Eyes

It is absolutely disgusting.

I hope people learn from this.
That money should be getting put through local buisiness' etc to rebuild the local areas....that was the point of it.
Instead....it is sitting in.....I'm assuming here.....a high interest account and some fat pigs in control of the books are scrapping the cream off the top. Meanwhile in country Australia the citizens have nothing except the charity from others with fkkk all as well.

Sad to say it but when it comes to free money, especially large sums such as this.......I trust no one.

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Reply #12 - Jan 31^st, 2020 at 6:40pm

we will be getting a St Vinnies doorknock any day now

but they are being generous and saying its going to the fire victims.......well last I heard they have had donated MILLIONS...in fact so much that some charities are having a job giving it away...

now St Vinnies want to get in on the act.....I hate saying NO when they door knock.....but does anyone else see a NEED for this????

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 8645 armidale Gender:	Re: Charities Reply #13 - Jan 31^st, 2020 at 7:32pm By law, the SES doesn't do fires. "Treasurer Tim Pallas announced $14.9 million in the 2017-18 budget for operational costs for SES units across Victoria". Trucks, maps, ropes, orange pants - ready to go. They could be used for this stuff.
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