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Told ya you couldnt trust the Red Cross.
Jan 23rd, 2020 at 5:32am
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/australia-bushfire-donations-red-cros...


The Red Cross has drawn fury from fire-affected towns for committing just $30 million of $95 million raised for victims immediately with the charity condemned for stashing cash for future floods and cyclones.

State government minister Andrew Constance on Tuesday said he was “furious” that charitable organisations are sitting on tens of millions of dollars and not distributing it to desperate residents.

The Bega MP, who almost lost his home in the south coast fires, has challenged the heads of the Red Cross, the Salvation Army and St Vincent de Paul to come to Batemans Bay and witness the devastation first-hand on Saturday.


The Vinnies Bushfire Appeal has so far raised $12.5 million, of which just over $1 million has been spent on helping bushfire victims.

About $40 million has been pledged towards the Salvation Army’s national disaster fund since its bushfire appeal was launched in November.

Of that money, about $7.5 million has been handed over.

The Salvation Army and Red Cross have said the majority of the money would be spent over the medium to long term to help people recover.

However, the Red Cross confirmed it would fund a three year bushfire recovery plan but said it would withhold money to spend on future disasters and singled out floods and cyclones.

The Red Cross declined to answer whether its boss would meet Mr Constance but the head of Vinnies said he would be there and the Salvation Army is considering the offer.

So far The Red Cross has processed just 559 cash grants of $10,000 and $20,000 payments are now available to next of kin of those who died.

Mr Constance praised the work of volunteers from the charities who are “working their guts out” but said bosses needed to get on the ground and “have a rethink” about how donations are prioritised.



“We need the donations … what we don’t need is welfare bureaucracy thinking this is the opportunity for them to grow their organisations.”

“We’ve got people in tents, on lounges, in caravan parks, in showgrounds, people sleeping rough on their burnt-out properties and they don’t want to hear about a three-year program.”

Red Cross Australian programs director Noel Clement said it was “prudent to plan for the inevitable disasters to come so our (fund) remains in place to scale up and to respond when the cyclones and floods hit”.

“This money is all being spent in Australia,” he said.

Mr Clement said it was equally important to budget for the recovery effort, adding: “We know from our long experience in disasters that (it) takes time”.

He could not reveal how much of the donations will go towards the bushfire response and how much will be set aside for the future events.

“Be assured the mechanisms are in place, including an independent Fund Advisory Panel of eminent Australians, to enable a sound and transparent response,” Mr Clement said.

The charity spent almost $2.5m in the last financial year for Australian Red Cross Humanitarian Services management staff, which includes salaries and benefits of eight executives and expenses paid for board members.

Peter Iverson, 72, lost a building on his property near Rainbow Flat in November and has been helped by Rotary, the Lions Club, the Salvos and local churches but he hadn’t heard from the Red Cross.

He applied for a $1000 grant from the government but was knocked back because he and his wife receive pensions.








I trust they are prevented from spending one cent overseas.... Angry Angry
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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 5:52am
 
S'why I don't donate... been donating my time and petrol out of my own pocket for months now.... at least I know where the money is and where it's going..
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Reply #2 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 6:01am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 5:52am:
S'why I don't donate... been donating my time and petrol out of my own pocket for months now.... at least I know where the money is and where it's going..



i too havent given to red cross in years....at one time I read where a huge amount of money collected here was used to prop them up in countries in the Middle East    which is not what it was donated for.....it put me right off.....

https://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-has-been-misleading-about-donat...

they are not very truthful either... Angry
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Reply #3 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:36am
 
In the meantime they are making many thousands of dollars from the interest earned on these donations. The government should step in and sort these parasites out. As has been said, this is the reason I don't donate.

Insurance companies aren't any better. They purposely take their time, in fact withhold claims to profit from the interest on many millions earned from premiums.
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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 8:02am
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:42am:
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Have a close look at
Red Crescent
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Red Cross
comes across as virtuous by comparison.
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Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 8:15am
 
Charities have collected enough money to rebuild the homes of all the fire victims....and not one home will be rebuilt by a charity.
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Reply #7 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:59am
 
"Up to" 10% in overheads ...

Seems like an extraordinarily high percentage gone in expenses to me.  Shocked
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Reply #8 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:46am
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:36am:
In the meantime they are making many thousands of dollars from the interest earned on these donations. The government should step in and sort these parasites out. As has been said, this is the reason I don't donate.

Insurance companies aren't any better. They purposely take their time, in fact withhold claims to profit from the interest on many millions earned from premiums.


The govt is more likely to step in and take the money for themselved

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Reply #9 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am
 
Red Cross.
With a name like that....what do you expect? It's not as if they didn't warn you.
Sure, there are hardworking volunteers. They do work their guts out. They're not the ones benefiting from this rather substantial sum of money.

So who is reaping the rewards?
Interest alone would be staggering. Enough to live comfortably off. And technically one would not be living off the "donations" as such. Some little fat pigs are benefiting greatly at the loss of Australians....and we sit idle.
We only have ourselves to blame. We do not stand United against these evil empires of fat self indulgent pigs. If there was a time for the people of rural NSW to make a point...this is it. Nothing to lose now....it's all gone.  Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #10 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 11:16am
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 8:02am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:42am:
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Yep

Have a close look at
Red Crescent
and
Red Cross
comes across as virtuous by comparison.


Someone up this way got some assistance from a Muslim charity group, not red crescent - just saying.
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Reply #11 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 12:28pm
 
Yep, like I wrote in a previous post about my experience when being the bunny doing the 'door knock appeal' stuffing my car up with so many stops and starts, using my fuel, and no thanks for it.
Yet, then I read how those in management buy themselves these new 4x4's.
It stopped me dead in my tracks, and from there on, I learnt when younger, to choose whom I wish to donate to.
So far I have chosen our own local fire brigade I directly write a cheque to every year, the Wilderness Society, Green Peace, SES, Blind Dog Association, and Wikipedia.
Get it? Choose whom you wish to do a donation to, that are singularly focused on their issues, not some consolidation like Red Cross. I had not trusted them for years.

It reminds me of our local shire, the exorbitant rates climbing up every year, our rates come to something like $80 per week to them, and when I drive around the back of the shire office, I see huge rows of new cars with their logo on it, all parked there, all day.
Who the f.... are these cars given to, to drive a few minutes to work, and leave these vehicles in the car park all day? And why soooo many?
Money, easy come, easy go eh?


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Reply #12 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:10pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 11:16am:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 8:02am:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 7:42am:
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Yep

Have a close look at
Red Crescent
and
Red Cross
comes across as virtuous by comparison.


Someone up this way got some assistance from a Muslim charity group, not red crescent - just saying.


Yeah I saw something about that. A Muslim group was out there feeding ppl too.

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Reply #13 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 1:14pm
 
You're badly burnt.
You were in a crises.
Thank God the Red Cross is there to put you on a drip for starters. Thank God that the money donated goes to making those Charities modernised, more efficient and more in the offering - there to help.
If 'money' is all you can do at the moment to help those people, then let Red Cross show you how to best spend it then. Afterall - they're the ones who exist 'down there' where tragedy is found.

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Reply #14 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 2:46pm
 
I reckon Red Cross should make a statement that no money donated for the bushfire appeal will leave Australia.
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