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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #45 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:34pm:

FD wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

I say, Aquascoot, how do we go from -

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It's a mistake to pretend to the electorate that you are better than you actually are

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When trump addresses the crowd he's basically just being an off the cuff bullshitartist

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It's not just the crowd though, is it?

To the Mexican president: Look, just say that you'll pay for it, we'll sort out the details, don't worry about it.

To the Great Leader of the Democratic Republic of North Korea: Just say you're thinking about stopping the nukes. We'll wait and see, okay?

To the Ukrainian president: ...but I have a small favour to ask. This Crowdstrike thing, some say it's based in the Ukraine... Speak to Rudy... announce an investigation into Sleepy Joe... look, there was no quid-pro-quo... fake news... a witch hunt... an act of treason... so unfair...

Could we say he's an all-round bullshitartist, do you think?

Can we tweak your statement from it being a mistake to pretend to the electorate (and world leaders, the US congress, the senate, the courts, and pretty much everybody else) to being a sign of GREATNESS?

policies, polcies, logical arguements, yawn yawn.

they dont matter.

people vote their temperament
they vote their emotional state.

And in 2016, 3,000,000 more people voted for Hillary Clinton.

Did you forget that little detail?

I'm curious.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #46 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 2:02pm

You are correct Greg.
That is the truth.
But the truth is just " weak sauce" in the new paradigm.
The truth is the consolation prize for being a chode.
Going to university and becoming a member of the chattering classes is also the consolation prize for failures.

The future belongs to those who are " paying attention"

People like the Donald.

Commeth the hour

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #47 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 2:17pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 2:02pm:

You are correct Greg.
That is the truth.
But the truth is just " weak sauce" in the new paradigm.
The truth is the consolation prize for being a chode.
Going to university and becoming a member of the chattering classes is also the consolation prize for failures.

The future belongs to those who are " paying attention"

People like the Donald.

Yet 3,000,000 more people voted for the Hillary.

Thus, the Hillary is liked more than the Donald.

Year nine maths, innit?

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #49 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 3:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:34pm:

FD wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

I say, Aquascoot, how do we go from -

Quote:

It's a mistake to pretend to the electorate that you are better than you actually are

to

Quote:

When trump addresses the crowd he's basically just being an off the cuff bullshitartist

?

It's not just the crowd though, is it?

To the Mexican president: Look, just say that you'll pay for it, we'll sort out the details, don't worry about it.

To the Great Leader of the Democratic Republic of North Korea: Just say you're thinking about stopping the nukes. We'll wait and see, okay?

To the Ukrainian president: ...but I have a small favour to ask. This Crowdstrike thing, some say it's based in the Ukraine... Speak to Rudy... announce an investigation into Sleepy Joe... look, there was no quid-pro-quo... fake news... a witch hunt... an act of treason... so unfair...

Could we say he's an all-round bullshitartist, do you think?

Can we tweak your statement from it being a mistake to pretend to the electorate (and world leaders, the US congress, the senate, the courts, and pretty much everybody else) to being a sign of GREATNESS?

policies, polcies, logical arguements, yawn yawn.

they dont matter.

people vote their temperament
they vote their emotional state.

you dont convince people by presenting the facts
you dont persuade people by presenting policies.

you look deep into their eyes, understand them at their core and reflect back to them their underlying personal psychology.

trump is an excellent psychologist.

trumps awesome entertaining, emotion spiking routine is part of "the doctor is the drug".

so awesome
a paradigm shift.

study it for 4 years.

but beware karnal.
this is just the beginning.

trump is a bit of an odd guy and a bit undisplined.

but he is trailblazing for the next conservative leader who will "study him for 4 years" and then combine a much shrewder intellect with the raw lessons of the donald.

that will be a formidable foe that the intellectual elite of the left will have no counter to.

in a way, putin is trump mark 2.

strong, noble, patriotic, confident, competant.

against the weak sauce , hand wringing snowflakery of leftie identity politics, the next president may be more putin like.

and that should see an end to the leftie universities and corrupted leftie school system Wink

I didn't mention policies and logical arguments, dear. I asked if lying is not a mistake per se, but a mark of GREATNESS.

Mr Trump can offer Fat Steve all the fast food he wants. Here, Fat Steve, have a voucher - two cheeseburgers for the price of one!

Or he can offer Joe Sixpack some cans of Jim Beam and Cola - vote 1 Trump! Or promise Joe Lunchbox a job - start on Monday, Joe. Speak to Ivanka!

I know, I know, the new political paradigm, masterful, cometh the hour. But my question is what happens if you don't deliver?

If you never meant it all along? If you were just bullshitting to the crowd?

What's the strategy for when they find out?

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #50 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 3:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 2:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 2:02pm:

You are correct Greg.
That is the truth.
But the truth is just " weak sauce" in the new paradigm.
The truth is the consolation prize for being a chode.
Going to university and becoming a member of the chattering classes is also the consolation prize for failures.

The future belongs to those who are " paying attention"

People like the Donald.

Yet 3,000,000 more people voted for the Hillary.

Thus, the Hillary is liked more than the Donald.

Year nine maths, innit?

Yes, but Aquascoot's saying that's old politics - too boring, all those policies and whatnot.

Those people didn't mean to vote for Hillary. They wanted their vote to go to a member of an electoral college to vote for them. They wanted Mr Trump.

Cometh the hour, dear.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #51 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 3:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:34pm:

FD wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

I say, Aquascoot, how do we go from -

Quote:

It's a mistake to pretend to the electorate that you are better than you actually are

to

Quote:

When trump addresses the crowd he's basically just being an off the cuff bullshitartist

?

It's not just the crowd though, is it?

To the Mexican president: Look, just say that you'll pay for it, we'll sort out the details, don't worry about it.

To the Great Leader of the Democratic Republic of North Korea: Just say you're thinking about stopping the nukes. We'll wait and see, okay?

To the Ukrainian president: ...but I have a small favour to ask. This Crowdstrike thing, some say it's based in the Ukraine... Speak to Rudy... announce an investigation into Sleepy Joe... look, there was no quid-pro-quo... fake news... a witch hunt... an act of treason... so unfair...

Could we say he's an all-round bullshitartist, do you think?

Can we tweak your statement from it being a mistake to pretend to the electorate (and world leaders, the US congress, the senate, the courts, and pretty much everybody else) to being a sign of GREATNESS?

policies, polcies, logical arguements, yawn yawn.

they dont matter.

people vote their temperament
they vote their emotional state.

you dont convince people by presenting the facts
you dont persuade people by presenting policies.

you look deep into their eyes, understand them at their core and reflect back to them their underlying personal psychology.

trump is an excellent psychologist.

trumps awesome entertaining, emotion spiking routine is part of "the doctor is the drug".

so awesome
a paradigm shift.

study it for 4 years.

but beware karnal.
this is just the beginning.

trump is a bit of an odd guy and a bit undisplined.

but he is trailblazing for the next conservative leader who will "study him for 4 years" and then combine a much shrewder intellect with the raw lessons of the donald.

that will be a formidable foe that the intellectual elite of the left will have no counter to.

in a way, putin is trump mark 2.

strong, noble, patriotic, confident, competant.

against the weak sauce , hand wringing snowflakery of leftie identity politics, the next president may be more putin like.

and that should see an end to the leftie universities and corrupted leftie school system Wink

And therein lies the crux of your problem Scoot.

You are equating a politician who is good at campaigning to one who is good at leading.

They are a separate skillset. What you need to win an election is the opposite of what it takes to be a good leader.

This is why you usually see a transition early on after a candidates shift to the top office.

But with Trump that hasn't happened.

He's STILL holding rallies, he's still lying and he still doesn't have any thought out policy, something that was astoundingly bad BEFORE he assassinated the Iranian General, and now, on the brink of war, it's just unconscionable to know that the leadership is asleep at the wheel.

You have nowhere else to go Scoot. You've backflipped so much the only thing left to do is start supporting the dems.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #53 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:10pm

The Iranians have stood down.

All the eager progs hoping for conflagration 'coz Trump' can now sit down and look for some other manufactured outrage to whine about.

The top Iranian terrorist is dead. The Iranians killed a bunch of other Iranians travelling on Canadian passports on a Ukranian plane. Large number of Iranians are angry and embarrassed about the venal incompetence of their ayatollas. Trumps standing has only increased - only Guardianistas/'your ABC-types' are still kvetching (and they will NEVER stop, no matter what).

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Reply #54 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:28pm

The Iranians have stood down.

All the eager reactlonaries hoping for conflagration 'coz Iran' can now sit down and look for some other manufactured outrage to whine about.

The top Iranian terrorist is dead. The Iranians killed a bunch of other Iranians travelling on Canadian passports on a Ukranian plane. Large number of Iranians are angry and embarrassed about the venal incompetence of their ayatollas. Trumps standing has only decreased - only Lovecraftian Horror Worshippers/'Spectator-Readers-types' are still kvetching (and they will NEVER stop, no matter what). Roll Eyes

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #55 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:39pm

Drone technology evolved during Obama's presidency and he embraced it with both hands, he was nuts for them!

He probably woke up every morning thinking, which Arabs arse will I shove a Hellfire up today.

If Obama offed the Iranian, the lefties would have a little inaudible tut tut and and go back to their gay unicorn studies.

Another clear example of Trump derangement syndrome.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #56 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:47pm

FD wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 9:46am:

Mr Trump's based his entire brand on being the best, dear. Gold toilets, biggest private yacht, fake Renoirs, the lot. He only ran for Prez to add more cache to the brand.

He promised the world: a big beautiful wall - not a fence - that he'd get Mexico to pay for. If there's one thing Mr Trump knows, it's how to build things and get others to pay.

Repeal and replace Obamacare - only Mr Trump could do this because he knows how to work with Republicans, believe me.

Fix the mess in North Korea - created by Obama, of course, because he couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. Mr Trump knows how East Asian communist dictators work. Only he can save America from certain nuclear annihilation.

Create jobs for all Americans. The unemployment figures are rigged. Mr Trump will create jobs just by being in the White House. In fact, his daughter Ivanka just created 17 million jobs (a little more than all US jobs created in the past three years, but you get the idea).

Mr Trump will be too busy making America great again to play golf, you'll see. World leaders will treat the White House with respect again. We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning.

Highest ever ratings in TV history, biggest-selling book, a landslide erection victory, biggest inauguration crowd ever, etc, etc, etc.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

You are really struggling with your deep resentment issues, paki. You simply cannot strop scratching, no matter how raw you already are.

Not a way to live.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #58 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 7:02pm

Frank wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:47pm:

FD wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 9:46am:

Mr Trump's based his entire brand on being the best, dear. Gold toilets, biggest private yacht, fake Renoirs, the lot. He only ran for Prez to add more cache to the brand.

He promised the world: a big beautiful wall - not a fence - that he'd get Mexico to pay for. If there's one thing Mr Trump knows, it's how to build things and get others to pay.

Repeal and replace Obamacare - only Mr Trump could do this because he knows how to work with Republicans, believe me.

Fix the mess in North Korea - created by Obama, of course, because he couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. Mr Trump knows how East Asian communist dictators work. Only he can save America from certain nuclear annihilation.

Create jobs for all Americans. The unemployment figures are rigged. Mr Trump will create jobs just by being in the White House. In fact, his daughter Ivanka just created 17 million jobs (a little more than all US jobs created in the past three years, but you get the idea).

Mr Trump will be too busy making America great again to play golf, you'll see. World leaders will treat the White House with respect again. We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning.

Highest ever ratings in TV history, biggest-selling book, a landslide erection victory, biggest inauguration crowd ever, etc, etc, etc.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

You are really struggling with your deep resentment issues, paki. You simply cannot strop scratching, no matter how raw you already are.

Not a way to live.

Good to see you agree, old chap.

We'll make an assimilated Australian of you yet, no?

Right after we make America great again.

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Re: The Real Reason Trump Ordered Strike
Reply #59 - Jan 13^th, 2020 at 7:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 5:28pm:

The Iranians have stood down.

All the eager reactlonaries hoping for conflagration 'coz Iran' can now sit down and look for some other manufactured outrage to whine about.

The top Iranian terrorist is dead. The Iranians killed a bunch of other Iranians travelling on Canadian passports on a Ukranian plane. Large number of Iranians are angry and embarrassed about the venal incompetence of their ayatollas. Trumps standing has only decreased - only Lovecraftian Horror Worshippers/'Spectator-Readers-types' are still kvetching (and they will NEVER stop, no matter what). Roll Eyes

Mission accomplished, old boy-style.

We'll wheel him out of a fighter jet for the cameras, shall we?

It's the new paradigm, you see. Cometh the hour, dear.

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