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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Link Between Australian Coal,Fires And Climate Reply #15 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:39pm tomorrow scomo will announce his plan to help prevent future bushfires it is expected that he will announce new open cut coal mines in every national park or state forest. that'll reduce bushfires
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Reply #16 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:40pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 4:53pm:

What a load of crap! These fires are as large as they are for two reasons - the drought and a lack of hazard reduction burning to reduce fuel loads in the bush. If we'd had a decent amount of rain 6-7 months ago, followed up with a serious campaign of burning off fuel loads, these fires would be considerably less destructive and possibly more controllable. Australia is one of the driest, most arid countries in the world. Droughts just happen. Some are worse than others. It's just a fact of life in this country. Nothing to do with global warming.

backburning in NSW was over 2018 -19 exceeded planned backburns and was at record levels ..

where was this reduction in backburning?

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Reply #17 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Well according to Daniel Andrews who was asked this very question it's not as simple as that simply because the foliage build up is so dry due to climate change and drought that setting fire to it risks burning other peoples homes down which has happened in the past !

Oh noes. You use a politician as a source? Grin

But tell me petal why don't you like BoM's rainfall graph for NSW/ACT?

Perhaps as you like Dan so much I should include one for Victoria. Wink

The last 60 years are slightly drier than the first 60 years. Wink

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 21551 Gender:	Re: Link Between Australian Coal,Fires And Climate Reply #18 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:58pm John Smith wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:40pm: backburning in NSW was over 2018 -19 exceeded planned backburns and was at record levels .. Got a link for that? I found something a bit different.
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Reply #19 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:02pm

If only we had zero emission, carbon trading, all renewable energy - CLIMATE ACTION!!! - there would be NOTHING in these national parks to burn any more!!!! YAY!!!!! CLIMATE ACTION would magically remove all that flammable stuff!!! YAY!!!!!

The religious dogmatism and messianic fervour of the climate action kids is astonishing.

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Reply #20 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:12pm

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Well according to Daniel Andrews who was asked this very question it's not as simple as that simply because the foliage build up is so dry due to climate change and drought that setting fire to it risks burning other peoples homes down which has happened in the past !

Oh noes. You use a politician as a source? Grin

But tell me petal why don't you like BoM's rainfall graph for NSW/ACT?

Perhaps as you like Dan so much I should include one for Victoria. Wink

http://www.bom.gov.au/tmp/cc/rranom.vic.0112.50009.png

The last 60 years are slightly drier than the first 60 years. Wink

So Daniel Andrews is telling lies then ? There are no homes at risk because of back-burning and climate change ??

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Reply #21 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:26pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:12pm:

So Daniel Andrews is telling lies then ?

Dan Andrews wouldn't know if his a*se was on fire. But perhaps he is a volunteer fireman? Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:12pm:

There are no homes at risk because of back-burning and climate change ??

Poor petal. There are no homes at risk from climate change. Wink

As for backburning; you have just shown your lack of knowledge. Backburning is creating a fire and burning it back towards the bushfire.

So batting nil from 3.

Want to try again? Grin

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20845 Gender:	Re: Link Between Australian Coal,Fires And Climate Reply #22 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:28pm lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:58pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 8:40pm: backburning in NSW was over 2018 -19 exceeded planned backburns and was at record levels .. Got a link for that? I found something a bit different. There will be no link for that lie he plucked from his ass
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Reply #23 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:35pm

cods wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 3:10pm:

ahhhh the Washington Post making the best of a bad situation who would have thought... Roll Eyes

of course its all Australias fault everyone knows that....we are the only country in the WHOLEWIDE world who sells COAL....and we are too bloody greedy to ruin our economy.....we put mens jobs ahead of the WORLD so these fires serve us right...

good one crook....you sure do not like your country do you? Angry

The WP is not a credible source.

Did they really write this?

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Reply #24 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 9:04am

lee wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:12pm:

So Daniel Andrews is telling lies then ?

Dan Andrews wouldn't know if his a*se was on fire. But perhaps he is a volunteer fireman? Grin

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 10:12pm:

There are no homes at risk because of back-burning and climate change ??

Poor petal. There are no homes at risk from climate change. Wink

As for backburning; you have just shown your lack of knowledge. Backburning is creating a fire and burning it back towards the bushfire.

So batting nil from 3.

Want to try again? Grin

Is Daniel Andrews telling lies when he says it's not a simple matter of fuel reduction or back burning and everything will be alright ??

Yes or no will do.

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Reply #25 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 9:13am

Nothing entirely due to Climate Change.
Back in the 1800's the lands were more heavily forested but were still reaping the effects of Aboriginal Land Management.
Back then, conditions were far worse than recent with many regions exhibiting +50C periods. There were no Wild Fires of such magnitude that recently have seen.

It's more like Political Australia with its Burke & Wills attitude that has lead this country to a dead end, where the only answer they have to prevent such fires is to bulldoze the remaining 20% of the Australian land mass that hasn't been deforested yet.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Link Between Australian Coal,Fires And Climate Reply #26 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 10:38am Absolute rubbish by the weak minded Blackday who posts without comprehension as he suffers from Compulsive Posting Disorder.
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Reply #27 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 11:00am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6^th, 2020 at 9:04am:

Is Daniel Andrews telling lies when he says it's not a simple matter of fuel reduction or back burning and everything will be alright ??

It is not a simple matter NOW. It was a simple matter before.

But perhaps you should post his actual comments rather than paraphrasing them. Wink

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Link Between Australian Coal,Fires And Climate Reply #28 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 11:30am The loony Greeny lies and denies and doesn't understand all those big words as she is uneducated and not very bright.
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Reply #29 - Jan 6^th, 2020 at 1:38pm

Can someone explain how converting all current sources of energy used in Australia to 100% renewables will reduce the severity of future bushfires, given that Australia contributes about 2.5% of total CO2 emissions and the IPCC estimates that by 2050 50% of energy produced globally will be from renewables?

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