no one seems to think our Emergency Services  havent been up to scratch either?????.....at the end of the day   this is a crisis that been on the horizon for a long time....


shouldnt we have been more prepared..... shouldnt previous govts have had us better prepared???

now its Vics turn....yet they too are out of control so soon....

no forward thinking...

just wondering thats all.

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 9:46am:


The liberals have been in power for quite some time cods. Whatever previous govts did would be undone by now anyway.

Spot

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 9:48am:


I heard they were requesting assistance from the fed gov way-back early last year but no response from scumo and co !! No response from scumo but can easily whip up 150 mill to give to Trump for NASA

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 9:49am:



answer my question give me the link of the accusations you have made...

and no that isnt true    as far as I know ash Wed  was one of our greatest catastrophes  facing this country when it comes to bush fires...


tell me what have we learnt or done since then?????????????????

you claim nothing would change..... so tell us what did change... then we can debate...


justa reminder

Prior to the events on Ash Wednesday, a drought lasting ten months had dried out the eastern Australian forests. The context on 16 February was characterised by heatwave conditions, low humidity and strong to gale force winds. Temperatures varied between the high thirties to mid forties over most of eastern South Australia and Victoria, with relative humidity generally at less than 15 per cent.

In Victoria, 47 people died, 150,000 hectares were burnt, 1620 houses and more than 1500 other buildings were destroyed and 32,400 livestock were lost.

In South Australia, 28 people died, including three Country Fire Service volunteer firefighters. More than 1500 people were injured, 383 homes and 200 other buildings were destroyed and 160 000 hectares were burnt.

The Insurance Council of Australia estimated the 1983 damage for Victoria at $138 million and South Australia at $38 million; the 2011 estimated repeated cost was $1489 million for Victoria and $307 million for South Australia.



how far have we come?????

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 9:46am:

Why not point the fingers at CURRENT governments, cods?

Is it because the Liberals have been in power for over 8 long years in NSW and nearly 7 long years federally? The NSW government that cut tens of millions of dollars out of the fire services budgets last year? The Federal government with no climate change policy and hoarding money for a Budget surplus like human dragons? Both governments warned about fire danger nearly a year ago?

Come on ... admit it: the current NSW and Federal Liberal party governments must wear some blame.

cods wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 7:20am:



Yes - it's a bit unfair - I suppose these politicians need to show their face and take a photo op - have to show they are 'leading' and 'caring' ... and the media do love such a story.  Doesn't help anyone.  Federal, State and local governments need to work out where things went wrong and get on to it..  all this deep bush living with unburnt undergrowth.

It astounds me - we moved up from the Bega Valley, partly to get away from burn-off smoke - the burn-offs were always in the deep forest far from homes etc and also from pine plantations in the Snowies etc - no use at all when the deadfall etc builds up next door.  We know all those towns to date.

Unprovable claims that the Kooris would have handled it better are not worth the time to consider - you can't prove a non-event, and making mileage out of pain and disaster is frankly disgusting.  Cobargo to the West was open paddocks etc, North, East and South were forested and paddocks mixed.  Takes one hell of a windstorm - still raged through.  Bought some pipe and such from a bloke West of Cobargo a few years back, and said then that they had no chance of getting out on a dirt track if a big fire blew up.

Now the galaxial cost of rebuilding... my home is becoming a depot for materials for emergency re-constructions here...  .. been helping out for months now..... no pay - it costs.

Bam wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 10:30am:




I would bam  I think you know me better than that


WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO THEY ARE NOT DOING???>..

the ADF have been there since sept....I have suggested they get trained for fir fighting under these circumstances... if we were at WAR it would be another thing.. so far I have been howled down by my lefty friends.. for even thinking such a thing..

I even suggested a collective prayer   OMG   I was hung and drawn...but at least I suggest things.....

what about you what would you suggest happen in the future.?.. apart from BLAME of course.