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Bushfires not due to climate change
Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:22pm
 
Those from the climate change religion say we should listen to the scientists.

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Fires not due to climate change: expert


Linking NSW's bushfires to climate change is 'nonsense', a leading expert says.


Linking the bushfire disaster in NSW to climate change is "an absolute nonsense" and reducing fuel loads in the Australian bush is urgently needed, a leading scientist says.

Retired Monash University researcher David Packham says global warming is a gradual process which doesn't explain major bushfires.

Greens deputy leader Adam Bandt has been accused of playing politics by linking the NSW bushfires to the new federal government's climate change policies.
But Mr Packham says there is no link.
"It's an absolute nonsense," he told AAP.

Mr Packham has previously accused "latte conservationists" of having too much influence on forest management.

He says fuel loads are now the heaviest they have been since human occupation of the continent and Aboriginal methods need to be adopted.
Flying over the Blue Mountains in recent years had been "frightening", he said.
"There's been this determination over the last 10 to 20 years to not treat our country in the same way the indigenous people treated it for 30,000 years," Mr Packham said.

Mr Packham called for an end to playing politics with bushfires and instead called for leadership based on scientific evidence.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/fires-not-due-to-climate-change-expert



Those from the climate change religion ignore the scientists who go against the narrative the climate change religion is trying to construct.
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #1 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm
 
Do skeptics ever feel guilty that they may be wrong, and their only real contribution to society is smacking up our planet? At least if science is wrong it just costs money.
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #2 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:25pm
 
coca cola nestle and adani have a lot to answer for. Taking our ground water and causing everything to be dry and burnable.

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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #3 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:31pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm:
Do skeptics ever feel guilty that they may be wrong, and their only real contribution to society is smacking up our planet?



So you don't believe the scientists? Who knew? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pho Huc wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 1:22pm:
At least if science is wrong it just costs money.



And that money couldn't be put to better use. /sarc

Reliable electricity supplies to those countries that have millions of deaths from cooking over dung fires etc?
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #4 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:20pm
 
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"latte conservationists" of having too much influence on forest management.

fuel loads are now the heaviest they have been since human occupation of the continent


That's it in a nutshell.

Maniacal green left bureaucratism is responsible for: human deaths, animal torture and slaughter on an unimaginable scale, torching hundreds of homes, destroying millions of hectares of our native flora.

When will the people wake up?
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #5 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:23pm
 
The Media consciousness has just let rip via the Golden Globes recently that it is
"Due to Climate Change".

Now there's a big statement from the Entertainment Industry.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #6 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
The Media consciousness has just let rip via the Golden Globes recently that it is
"Due to Climate Change".

Now there's a big statement from the Entertainment Industry.





Trash talking up more trash

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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:34pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
The Media consciousness has just let rip via the Golden Globes recently that it is "Due to Climate Change".

Now there's a big statement from the Entertainment Industry.



I'm a Celebrity get my name out there. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:36pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
The Media consciousness has just let rip via the Golden Globes recently that it is
"Due to Climate Change".

Now there's a big statement from the Entertainment Industry.





Trash talking up more trash


Yes. Considering these Fires were 'self inflicted' by poor Land Management by the same 'mentality' that provided poor Water Management as we have seen recently.
For the likes of Foreign Celebrities to come out and say its 'Climate Change' is a very slender branch to walk out on.

Why couldn't they say "Poor Governmental Management of Australia" instead?
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:36pm:
PZ547 wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:23pm:
The Media consciousness has just let rip via the Golden Globes recently that it is
"Due to Climate Change".

Now there's a big statement from the Entertainment Industry.





Trash talking up more trash


Yes. Considering these Fires were 'self inflicted' by poor Land Management by the same 'mentality' that provided poor Water Management as we have seen recently.
For the likes of Foreign Celebrities to come out and say its 'Climate Change' is a very slender branch to walk out on.

Why couldn't they say "Poor Governmental Management of this Country" instead?




Lot more to the bushfires than that

but I agree with your sentiments generally
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:16pm
 
Why has this become an either/ or question? Climate change & bad land management are only two of the many contributing factors.
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #11 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:19pm
 
moses wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:20pm:
Quote:
"latte conservationists" of having too much influence on forest management.

fuel loads are now the heaviest they have been since human occupation of the continent


That's it in a nutshell.

Maniacal green left bureaucratism is responsible for: human deaths, animal torture and slaughter on an unimaginable scale, torching hundreds of homes, destroying millions of hectares of our native flora.

When will the people wake up?

Since when did the Greens/left manage to control the bureaucracy?
I must have missed something shifting in Canberra.
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #12 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:23pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:19pm:
moses wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 2:20pm:
Quote:
"latte conservationists" of having too much influence on forest management.

fuel loads are now the heaviest they have been since human occupation of the continent


That's it in a nutshell.

Maniacal green left bureaucratism is responsible for: human deaths, animal torture and slaughter on an unimaginable scale, torching hundreds of homes, destroying millions of hectares of our native flora.

When will the people wake up?

Since when did the Greens/left manage to control the bureaucracy?
I must have missed something shifting in Canberra.


Oh, that's just moses.

He's special, if you know what I mean   Wink
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 4:05pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:19pm:
Since when did the Greens/left manage to control the bureaucracy?


You do understand the Greens policy of wanting a quid pro quo to pass legislation?

And of course do not confuse Greens with the Greens Party.

From The Conversation s it must be true -

"As monstrous blazes overwhelm Australia’s south-east, the need for a national bushfire policy has never been more urgent. Active land management such as hazard-reduction burning and forest thinning must lie at the core of any such policy.

Done well, controlled burning limits a bushfire’s spread and makes suppression easier, by reducing the amount of flammable material. Clearing or thinning vegetation on roadsides and other areas also helps maintain fuel breaks, allowing firefighters access to forests in an emergency.

As former fire chiefs recently pointed out, of all factors driving a fire’s severity – temperature, wind speed, topography, fuel moisture and fuel load – fuel load is the only one humans can influence. "

https://theconversation.com/theres-only-one-way-to-make-bushfires-less-powerful-...
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Re: Bushfires not due to climate change
Reply #14 - Jan 7th, 2020 at 4:07pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 7th, 2020 at 3:16pm:
Why has this become an either/ or question? Climate change & bad land management are only two of the many contributing factors.


David Packham, ex-CSIRO fire scientist would disagree with you about the climate aspect.

"As former State Fire Chiefs call for a summit on bushfires, expert and scientist David Packham explains that it has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with fuel-loads."

https://volunteerfirefighters.org.au/scientist-david-packham-on-whats-really-cau...
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