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Re: Greenies
Reply #45 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:26pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 7:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:10am:

Can someone show me some evidence that the greenies (who are not in power) caused the fires please?

Spot

they are in control of many local councils spot........

which councils in the bush fire affected regions are the greenies in control off?

The question should be "Which councils had policies in place that restricted property owners from clearing vegetation away from their homes?"

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Reply #46 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:27pm

minarchist wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 7:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:10am:

Can someone show me some evidence that the greenies (who are not in power) caused the fires please?

Spot

they are in control of many local councils spot........

which councils in the bush fire affected regions are the greenies in control off?

The question should be "Which councils had policies in place that restricted property owners from clearing vegetation away from their homes?"

That is burning now . . .

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Reply #47 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:37pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 12:06pm:

Don't expect an answer from these parasites Greg....If the Liberal and Labor parties cannot do anything without the Greens giving their consent why doesn't everyone just vote Greens and get rid of the major parties who cower at the power of the Greens....

I think that's faulty reasoning. If the Coalition has Federal control of the Lower House but Labor and the Greens have more than 50% of the senate seats, more than likely they have to compromise on legislation proposals to get bills passed. If the compromises are more in line with the views of The Green rather than the Coalition, or if the proposed bill gets rejected outright, most Liberal supporters are going to resent The Greens, not vote for them.

Then again, the German National Socialist Party pulled the same tactic and we all know how that went!

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Greenies Reply #48 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:47pm Thank the Lord Above that the Greeny controlled Labor Party did not get in and RESTART the BOATS!!!!!
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Reply #49 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 3:15pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:27pm:

minarchist wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 7:34pm:

cods wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 6:10am:

Can someone show me some evidence that the greenies (who are not in power) caused the fires please?

Spot

they are in control of many local councils spot........

which councils in the bush fire affected regions are the greenies in control off?

The question should be "Which councils had policies in place that restricted property owners from clearing vegetation away from their homes?"

That is burning now . . .

Spot

the whole country is almost burning take your pick.......the Greens cant get into REAL POWER so they ingrate themselves at local levels.. you do know they run the ACT dont you?...and have done since all the clearing has been the focal point..

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Greenies Reply #50 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 4:03pm The old Spotty is a lazy coot. Why doesn't he get onto Google and look up the councils ? Too hard ? Can't smell Goohgle ?
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Reply #51 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 4:09pm

You have to tread lightly when it comes to the Greens

many people have latched onto them in the hope they're the good guys

and many of the greens supporters are genuine and trying to help

They don't realise that the leadership of the Greens are OWNED, bought and paid for ACTORS leading the sheep to their doom via craftily scripted talkie talk

If you criticise the greens, their deluded supporters will stop listening

it's all crafted, planned, scripted with the green leadership playing so-concerned, so genuine

Not sure what will cause greens supporters to take a look around and realise they're being hoodwinked

maybe they'll never wake up

The media pushes the greens as the good guy alternative and keeps the green leaderships feet of clay well hidden from the poor public

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Reply #52 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 4:34pm

minarchist wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 12:06pm:

Don't expect an answer from these parasites Greg....If the Liberal and Labor parties cannot do anything without the Greens giving their consent why doesn't everyone just vote Greens and get rid of the major parties who cower at the power of the Greens....

I think that's faulty reasoning. If the Coalition has Federal control of the Lower House but Labor and the Greens have more than 50% of the senate seats, more than likely they have to compromise on legislation proposals to get bills passed. If the compromises are more in line with the views of The Green rather than the Coalition, or if the proposed bill gets rejected outright, most Liberal supporters are going to resent The Greens, not vote for them.

Then again, the German National Socialist Party pulled the same tactic and we all know how that went!

It was tongue in cheek mate....The Greens have no control over State and federal agencies and are far from controlling Local Government in all the fire affected areas....Blaming the Greens is right wing bullshit aimed at denying any responsibility and passing the buck....If the Greens had that much power surely they would use it too enact Green programs across the nation....They don't because it is a load of crap!!!

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Reply #53 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 4:40pm

PZ547 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 4:09pm:

You have to tread lightly when it comes to the Greens

many people have latched onto them in the hope they're the good guys

and many of the greens supporters are genuine and trying to help

They don't realise that the leadership of the Greens are OWNED, bought and paid for ACTORS leading the sheep to their doom via craftily scripted talkie talk

If you criticise the greens, their deluded supporters will stop listening

it's all crafted, planned, scripted with the green leadership playing so-concerned, so genuine

Not sure what will cause greens supporters to take a look around and realise they're being hoodwinked

maybe they'll never wake up

The media pushes the greens as the good guy alternative and keeps the green leaderships feet of clay well hidden from the poor public

Yes, they are quite a cult.

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Greens leader Richard Di Natale failed to declare his family farm in Victoria's Otway Ranges for 15 months, breaching parliamentary rules and potentially placing him in "serious contempt" of the Senate.

And Senator Di Natale has paid three au pairs to help with his family as little as $150 a week after tax, or $3.75 an hour - based on a standard 40-hour week - as well as room and board worth $300 a week.

He says he made up the difference and paid above minimum wage requirements [based on advice from a payroll services company] and by requiring only 25 hours of work a week.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/election-2016-greens-leader-richard-di-n...

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Reply #54 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:05pm

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-12-climate-change-hoax-collapses-new-science...

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The climate change hoax has collapsed. A devastating series of research papers has just been published, revealing that human activity can account for no more than a .01°C rise in global temperatures, meaning that all the human activity targeted by radical climate change alarmists — combustion engines, airplane flights, diesel tractors — has virtually no measurable impact on the temperature of the planet.

Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”

The paper explains that IPCC analysis of global temperatures suffers from a glaring error — namely, failure to account for “influences of low cloud cover” and how it impacts global temperatures. Natural variations in low cloud cover, which are strongly influenced by cosmic radiation’s ability to penetrate Earth’s atmosphere due to variations in the strength of our planet’s magnetosphere, account for nearly all changes in global temperature, the researchers explain.

As this chart reveals, more cloud cover is inversely related to temperature. In other words, clouds shield the surface of the Earth from the sun, providing shade cover cooling, while a lack of clouds results in more warming:

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Re: Greenies
Reply #55 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:37pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:05pm:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-12-climate-change-hoax-collapses-new-science...

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The climate change hoax has collapsed. A devastating series of research papers has just been published, revealing that human activity can account for no more than a .01°C rise in global temperatures, meaning that all the human activity targeted by radical climate change alarmists — combustion engines, airplane flights, diesel tractors — has virtually no measurable impact on the temperature of the planet.

Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”

The paper explains that IPCC analysis of global temperatures suffers from a glaring error — namely, failure to account for “influences of low cloud cover” and how it impacts global temperatures. Natural variations in low cloud cover, which are strongly influenced by cosmic radiation’s ability to penetrate Earth’s atmosphere due to variations in the strength of our planet’s magnetosphere, account for nearly all changes in global temperature, the researchers explain.

As this chart reveals, more cloud cover is inversely related to temperature. In other words, clouds shield the surface of the Earth from the sun, providing shade cover cooling, while a lack of clouds results in more warming:

Perhaps you should read about the organisations you promote Sprint....Natural News is a conspiracy web site with zero credibility....The study they cited has also been discredited....Sorry to burst your bubble but you have been sucked in by fake news mate!!!

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Facebook bans health and conspiracy site Natural News

Conspiracist founder compares Zuckerberg to Hitler, urges Trump to declare war.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/06/natural-news-hawker-of-vitamins-and-far-...

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Flawed Reasoning: The authors' argument claims a correlation between cloud cover/relative humidity and global temperature proves that the former caused the latter without investigating whether they have the relationship backwards.
Inadequate support: The source of their claimed global cloud dataset is not given, and no research on their proposed mechanism for climate change is cited.
Fails to provide correct physical explanation: The manuscript incorrectly claims that the rise of atmospheric carbon dioxide is caused by release from ocean waters. It also provides no explanation for the claim that an increase in relative humidity causes global cooling.

https://climatefeedback.org/claimreview/non-peer-reviewed-manuscript-falsely-cla...

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Turku-University-in-Finland-wrong-when-they-say-tha...

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Re: Greenies
Reply #56 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 7:48pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:37pm:

.Sorry to burst your bubble but you have been sucked in by fake news mate!!!

I have seen the criticism of the paper. One of them was that the model they used hadn't been validated. Strange that when none of the climate models have been validated. Wink

And the models still don't do clouds properly. And no-one know how much CO2 is outgassed by the oceans.

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Reply #57 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 8:59pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 3:06pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 7:45am:

So nobody has any actual evidence that the greenies are to blame?

Spot

No they cannot because the claim is bullshit!!!

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-c...

The chief accuser is Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce who says “greens policy” gets in the way “of many of the practicalities of fighting a fire and managing it”.

Among Joyce’s claims, made in several interviews this week, are that Greens policies have made hazard reduction activities more difficult.

This claim, just to be clear, is about the policies of a party that has never been in government.

Joyce also blamed the Greens for “paperwork” that made it harder to carry out hazard reduction activities.

“It’s not burning because they burnt off, it’s burning because they didn’t burn off,” Joyce told SkyNews.

According to Bradstock, Joyce’s claims are familiar but “without foundation.”

“It’s simply conspiracy stuff. It’s an obvious attempt to deflect the conversation away from climate change.”

A former NSW fire and rescue commissioner, Greg Mullins, has written this week that the hotter and drier conditions, and the higher fire danger ratings, were preventing agencies from carrying out prescribed burning.

He said: “Blaming ‘greenies’ for stopping these important measures is a familiar, populist, but basically untrue claim.”

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