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Reply #30 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:32pm
 
The inner city recreational drug taking homosexual Greens are the worst.

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Reply #31 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:18pm:
Still nobody can support the bullshit that the Greens are responsible for the fires....The LNP and ALP are in Government across Australia both Federal and State yet they take no responsibility for anything!!!

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Arguably as a result of more than $200 million in funding cuts by the NSW Coalition government since 2016, the total area treated with hazard reduction burns has been reduced by an average of 26 per cent.

This has left more than 274,000 acres not subject to hazard reduction burns compared with a similar 3 year period before the budget cuts were enacted.

Amidst one of the worst bushfire seasons in living memory, these budget cuts are now being felt by the people of NSW and the firefighters on the frontlines protecting people’s homes.


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https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/9-top-story-of-2019-g...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/11/11/nsw-bushfires-budget-cut/


Typical of the retarded lefties who can't get their story straight.

Crikey is looney leftist nonsense.



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Fact check: Is the NSW firefighting budget facing a $40 million cut?


NSW Opposition Leader Jodi McKay says that the state's firefighting budget is facing a $40 million cut.

The verdict
Ms McKay's claim doesn't stack up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-05/fact-check-are-nsw-firefighters-facing--b...


Forums seem to be busy with lefties peddling their bullshit must be school holidays again


However I never cited the quote you posted did I....Typical of the right too misrepresent what was actually posted!!!

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Reply #32 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 5:44pm
 
shameful stuff

we have had 10 years to grow a spine and stare down the green monster

Living in an area like Healesville, whether because of dumb luck or whatever, we have not experienced a fire … since … about 1963. God help us if we ever do, because it will make Ash Wednesday look like a picnic." God help him, he was right.

Gentle complained of obstruction from green local government authorities of any type of fire mitigation strategies. He told of green interference at Kinglake - at the epicentre of Saturday's disaster, where at least 147 people died - during a smaller fire there in 2007.

"The contractors were out working on the fire lines. They put in containment lines and cleared off some of the fire trails. Two weeks later that fire broke out, but unfortunately those trails had been blocked up again [by greens] to turn it back to its natural state … Instances like that are just too numerous to mention. Governments … have been in too much of a rush to appease green idealism … This thing about locking up forests is just not working."

The Kinglake area was a nature-loving community of tree-changers, organic farmers and artists to the north of Melbourne. A council committed to reducing carbon emissions dominates the Nillumbik shire, a so-called "green wedge" area, where restrictions on removing vegetation around houses reportedly added to the dangers. In nearby St Andrews, where more than 20 people are believed to have died, surviving residents have spoken angrily of "greenies" who prevented them from cutting back trees near their property, including in one case, a tea tree that went "whoomp". Dr Phil Cheney, the former head of the CSIRO's bushfire research unit and one of the pioneers of prescribed burning, said yesterday if the fire-ravaged Victorian areas had been hazard-reduced, the flames would not have been as intense
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Reply #33 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:28pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 5:22pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:18pm:
Still nobody can support the bullshit that the Greens are responsible for the fires....The LNP and ALP are in Government across Australia both Federal and State yet they take no responsibility for anything!!!

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Arguably as a result of more than $200 million in funding cuts by the NSW Coalition government since 2016, the total area treated with hazard reduction burns has been reduced by an average of 26 per cent.

This has left more than 274,000 acres not subject to hazard reduction burns compared with a similar 3 year period before the budget cuts were enacted.

Amidst one of the worst bushfire seasons in living memory, these budget cuts are now being felt by the people of NSW and the firefighters on the frontlines protecting people’s homes.


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https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/9-top-story-of-2019-g...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/11/11/nsw-bushfires-budget-cut/


Typical of the retarded lefties who can't get their story straight.

Crikey is looney leftist nonsense.



Quote:
Fact check: Is the NSW firefighting budget facing a $40 million cut?


NSW Opposition Leader Jodi McKay says that the state's firefighting budget is facing a $40 million cut.

The verdict
Ms McKay's claim doesn't stack up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-05/fact-check-are-nsw-firefighters-facing--b...


Forums seem to be busy with lefties peddling their bullshit must be school holidays again


However I never cited the quote you posted did I....Typical of the right too misrepresent what was actually posted!!!

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What does your Crikey link say do you read the links you post?

The ABC debunks the bullshit from Crikey.
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Reply #34 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:29pm
 
lol

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Reply #35 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:34pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 1st, 2020 at 6:48am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1st, 2020 at 6:10am:
Can someone show me some evidence that the greenies (who are not in power) caused the fires please?

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they are in control of many local councils spot........



which councils in the bush fire affected regions are the greenies in control off?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #36 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:39pm
 
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...........  Richardo Luiji Di Natale. The Greens party leader who loves to tell us Aussies that we live on stolen land and our nation isn’t legitimate and that we should give it all back to the aboriginals.

Richardo Luiji Di Natale. The son of Italian immigrants. That right. His parents fought against us during the war. No one in his family fought or died for the country he is critical of while he is taking advantage of it.

Richardo Luiji Di Natale. The Greens party leader who despises Australians. In particular white Australians and in particular wealthy and middle class Australians and would happily rid the average Aussie family of their privately owned 474 to 665 square meters of “stolen land”.

Owns a 50 acres of “stolen land” in Victoria's Otway Ranges. Not only does he own it. He failed to declare that he owned it when he entered politics. And he is required by law to declare it.

He claimed that he’d forgotten that he’d purchased his 2.3 million dollar property!

Like putting spare change in a draw, I suppose.

One forgets it’s there??

But wait there’s more!!

This “champion of human rights” and especially the rights of foreigners in Australia. Had two au pairs on his property. An au pair is a young foreign person, typically a woman, who helps with housework or childcare in exchange for food, a room, and some pocket money.

And Greens party leader. Richardo Luiji Di Natale. The champion of humanity, in his own mind, paid them a massive $3.75 an hour to help with his family. Mind you on top of Richardo Luiji Di Natale’s $283,632 plus bonuses and quirks per year from the tax payer.

He would also claim that massive $3.75 per hour for his nannies back on tax as he’s a mobile politician.

His ad for the au pair read …..

“family of four is looking for an extra pair of hands around the place to entertain the lads [the couple have two boys] and help with cooking and general domestic duties".

"Will take couples but weekly wage remains the same."

That’s $150 a week for two people. Or $1.88 an hour each.

Even if we disregard his hypocrisy in being critical of our nation and the land we live on.

He’s even failing at being a communist.

Which is what the Greens are.

Richardo Luiji Di Natale is a hypocrite, a capitalist and he takes advantage of those on working visa’s as well as the Australian tax payer.         ..............


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Reply #37 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:45pm
 
disgraceful

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Reply #38 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:59pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:29pm:
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Typical right wing thugs. Call themselves the Freedom of Speech party and suggest capsicum spray for people excersising their freedom of speech when they don;t agree with t.

A cliche so repeated, we've come to expect it.
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Reply #39 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 8:11pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:59pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:29pm:
lol




Typical right wing thugs. Call themselves the Freedom of Speech party and suggest capsicum spray for people excersising their freedom of speech when they don;t agree with t.

A cliche so repeated, we've come to expect it.


Would Baron rather see them shot?

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Reply #40 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 8:50am
 
Australians now regard the disgusting Greenies as Traitorous Scum after they caused the bush fires and burnt Australia to the ground!!!!!

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Disgusting Greenies are now loathed and hated by Australians

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Reply #41 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 11:22am
 
I remember after the Black Saturday bushfires in 2009 that many people living in the affected communities stating they had been restricted by their council regarding the vegetation they were allowed to clear from their land prior to the occurrence of the bushfires. The following article from 2009 was such an example:

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Fined for illegal clearing, family now feel vindicated

They were labelled law breakers, fined $50,000 and left emotionally and financially drained.

But seven years after the Sheahans bulldozed trees to make a fire break — an act that got them dragged before a magistrate and penalised — they feel vindicated. Their house is one of the few in Reedy Creek, Victoria, still standing.

The Sheahans' 2004 court battle with the Mitchell Shire Council for illegally clearing trees to guard against fire, as well as their decision to stay at home and battle the weekend blaze, encapsulate two of the biggest issues arising from the bushfire tragedy.

Do Victoria's native vegetation management policies need a major overhaul? And should families risk injury or death by staying home to fight the fire rather than fleeing?

Anger at government policies stopping residents from cutting down trees and clearing scrub to protect their properties is already apparent. "We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," Warwick Spooner told Nillumbik Mayor Bo Bendtsen at a meeting on Tuesday night.

Although Liam Sheahan's 2002 decision to disregard planning laws and bulldoze 250 trees on his hilltop property hurt his family financially and emotionally, he believes it helped save them and their home on the weekend.

"The house is safe because we did all that," he said as he pointed out his kitchen window to the clear ground where tall gum trees once cast a shadow on his house.

"We have got proof right here. We are the only house standing in a two-kilometre area."

At least seven houses and several sheds on neighbouring properties along Thompson-Spur road in Reedy Creek were destroyed by Saturday night's blaze.

Saving their home was no easy task. At 2pm on Saturday, Mr Sheahan saw the nearby hills ablaze.

He knew what lay ahead when the predicted south-westerly change came.

The family of four had discussed evacuation but decided their property was defensible, due largely to their decision to clear a fire break. It also helped that Mr Sheahan, his son Rowan and daughter Kirsten were all experienced members of the local CFA.

"We prayed and we worked bloody hard. Our house was lit up eight times by the fire as the front passed," Mr Sheahan said. "The elements off our TV antenna melted. We lost a Land Rover, two Subarus, a truck and trailer and two sheds."

Mr Sheahan is still angry about his prosecution, which cost him $100,000 in fines and legal fees. The council's planning laws allow trees to be cleared only when they are within six metres of a house. Mr Sheahan cleared trees up to 100 metres away from his house.

"The council stood up in court and made us to look like the worst, wanton environmental vandals on the earth. We've got thousands of trees on our property. We cleared about 247," he said.

He said the royal commission on the fires must result in changes to planning laws to allow land owners to clear trees and vegetation that pose a fire risk.

"Both the major parties are pandering to the Greens for preferences and that is what is causing the problem. Common sense isn't that common these days," Mr Sheahan said.


Melbourne University bushfire expert Kevin Tolhurst gave evidence to help the Sheahan family in their legal battle with the council.

"Their fight went over nearly two years. The Sheahans were victimised. It wasn't morally right," he said yesterday.

Dr Tolhurst told the Seymour Magistrates court that Mr Sheahan's clearing of the trees had reduced the fire risk to his house from extreme to moderate.

"That their house is still standing is some natural justice for the Sheahans," he said.

He said council vegetation management rules required re-writing. He also called on the State Government to provide clearer guidelines about when families should stay and defend their property.

Houses in fire-prone areas should be audited by experts to advise owners whether their property is defensible, Dr Tolhurst said.

Mr Sheahan said he wanted others to learn from his experience and offered an invitation for Government ministers to visit his property.

He would also like his convictions overturned and fines repaid.

"It would go a long way to making us feel better about the system. But I don't think it will happen."


https://www.smh.com.au/national/fined-for-illegal-clearing-family-now-feel-vindi...

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"Why didn't you change the laws to allow people to clear vegetation from their properties to prevent bushfires buring their homes?"

"That didn't cause their homes to be burnt. Electricity and Global Warming did!"
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Reply #42 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 11:49am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:28pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 5:22pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:30pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 4:18pm:
Still nobody can support the bullshit that the Greens are responsible for the fires....The LNP and ALP are in Government across Australia both Federal and State yet they take no responsibility for anything!!!

Quote:
Arguably as a result of more than $200 million in funding cuts by the NSW Coalition government since 2016, the total area treated with hazard reduction burns has been reduced by an average of 26 per cent.

This has left more than 274,000 acres not subject to hazard reduction burns compared with a similar 3 year period before the budget cuts were enacted.

Amidst one of the worst bushfire seasons in living memory, these budget cuts are now being felt by the people of NSW and the firefighters on the frontlines protecting people’s homes.


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https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/9-top-story-of-2019-g...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/11/11/nsw-bushfires-budget-cut/


Typical of the retarded lefties who can't get their story straight.

Crikey is looney leftist nonsense.



Quote:
Fact check: Is the NSW firefighting budget facing a $40 million cut?


NSW Opposition Leader Jodi McKay says that the state's firefighting budget is facing a $40 million cut.

The verdict
Ms McKay's claim doesn't stack up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-05/fact-check-are-nsw-firefighters-facing--b...


Forums seem to be busy with lefties peddling their bullshit must be school holidays again


However I never cited the quote you posted did I....Typical of the right too misrepresent what was actually posted!!!

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What does your Crikey link say do you read the links you post?

The ABC debunks the bullshit from Crikey.


Maybe you should learn to read and comprehend you dickhead....The links I posted where about past cuts not future cuts....The link you posted from the ABC fact checks a claim about future cuts not those that have already occurred....Are you claiming these cuts did not happen even though they are in the NSW State budget papers as listed in the links I posted....You are a deceitful prick mate but you are too stupid to be taken seriously!!!

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Reply #43 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 12:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2020 at 7:34pm:
cods wrote on Jan 1st, 2020 at 6:48am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1st, 2020 at 6:10am:
Can someone show me some evidence that the greenies (who are not in power) caused the fires please?

Spot



they are in control of many local councils spot........



which councils in the bush fire affected regions are the greenies in control off?



Don't expect an answer from these parasites Greg....If the Liberal and Labor parties cannot do anything without the Greens giving their consent why doesn't everyone just vote Greens and get rid of the major parties who cower at the power of the Greens....The excuses and lack of responsibility shown by the Coalition shows they are not fit to be in charge of anything???

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A former NSW fire and rescue commissioner, Greg Mullins, has written this week that the hotter and drier conditions, and the higher fire danger ratings, were preventing agencies from carrying out prescribed burning.

He said: “Blaming ‘greenies’ for stopping these important measures is a familiar, populist, but basically untrue claim.”


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Reply #44 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 2:22pm
 
Philly seems to be getting a swelled head and assuming he knows all when it is painfully obvious that he doesn't have a clue and is just parroting propaganda.

His aggro stuff is just a tactic to try to frighten off anyone who knows he is full of that stuff.  A Lefty know all is the pits.
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