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Reply #210 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:23pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 10:37am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 8:51am:
I AM objecting to the IMAGERY and SO ARE MANY OTHERS !!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1561014292/14#14


You can object to the content all you like. I don't really like it either.

But in Australia, a country that will Refuse Classification to content that is of 2 consenting adults because one might have small breasts and look under 18, even if she's proved her age, that same censor has deemed the Southpark content to be only an M15 + rating, at least the original season 1 episode. I've not kept up with the game that these latest gifs appear to be from.

On top on that the owner of this forum has said they won't censor content that is safe for TV here.

Since a big part of this forum was to fight censorship I don't think it's unreasonable that others would object to censoring legal content that has been on tv either, especially with the right leaning stance of being anti cancel culture and anti snowflakes.

So if you want to take action, you can report the content to the classification board and request they reclassify it, refusing it classification.

Or since you accuse anyone who doesn't want legal content censored on here of supporting the sexual abuse of children you must think this content to be child porn in which case you should be reporting it to the AFP.

Both are things I've given you direct links to do, but you're refusing to do, even creating a conspiracy to justify your inaction and the apparent condoning of the content.

Instead you're exploiting the very serious issues of the sexual abuse of children to allow you to defame and slander posters here of supporting the content and paedophelia.

This has to stop.

Not only are you hurting innocent people but you're belittling the real abuse that victims have endured by exploiting the subject for your own gratification.

At best all you want to do is complain and take no action so you can play the victim and make the most vile accusation against those you disagree with and at worst, well we can all see what you're doing...
I think its telling and sad that you need a government classification to tell you what is right and wrong. In the real world decent people have a personal moral compass. Its also telling that you and the others here defending this posting have the exact same political leanings. Why do you far left loonies always demand a nanny state? Think for yourself  man.
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Re: Mod Poll Update
Reply #211 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:31pm
 
is greg posting his family pictures again..???

I do wonder about people who do that... its soo.soooo...
infantile...

shows an obsessive nature  can do every thread.... up pops his family...weird!
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Reply #212 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
PZ547 wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 2:23pm:
Sounds as if you're having one of your post-election psychotic breaks again, gweg

guess you didn't get your own way in some petty little personal issue over Christmas and believe it your entitlement to vent your spleen on OzPol members (who, to your surprise no doubt, may well have genuine problems which would eclipse your self-absorbed tantrums) who come to this forum for friendship, bit of sparring and humour

but you continue to spread your venom at every opportunity



Venom?

My dear boy, I'm agreeing with you.

Birds of a feather do flock together.

https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/201907/nn_sgo_trump_epste...

Here's a belated Christmas present for you:

https://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/chill-pill-jar-300x250.jpg

Take two, and call me in the morning.





And the relevance of Trump in this particular thread?

by the way, could you advise me as to how and what to do to get posts running in chronological order please?  Thanks if you're so inclined
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Reply #213 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:43pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:39pm:
And the relevance of Trump in this particular thread?

by the way, could you advise me as to how and what to do to get posts running in chronological order please?  Thanks if you're so inclined



For at least the last 6 months Greggy
has been able to turn any thread into his favorite obsession - Trump.
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Reply #214 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:47pm
 
oh gee, I don't care

the forum's running backwards for me

my last post didn't show

maybe i'm being shadow banned

i'm now posting in what shows as page one

and I have to go bucket water the garden

anyone there who can help

or is the forum running backwards for everyone

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Reply #215 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:48pm
 
and oh by the way greg

last week you appreciated my views on Trump

so which greg are you today?
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Reply #216 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:51pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:47pm:
oh gee, I don't care

the forum's running backwards for me

my last post didn't show

maybe i'm being shadow banned

i'm now posting in what shows as page one

and I have to go bucket water the garden

anyone there who can help

or is the forum running backwards for everyone




It can happen sometimes.
Just go to your settings and change the order.
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Reply #217 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 5:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:51pm:
PZ547 wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:47pm:
oh gee, I don't care

the forum's running backwards for me

my last post didn't show

maybe i'm being shadow banned

i'm now posting in what shows as page one

and I have to go bucket water the garden

anyone there who can help

or is the forum running backwards for everyone




It can happen sometimes.
Just go to your settings and change the order.



Thanks Bobby

Logged out, logged back in, problem still there

I 'toggled' a hundred times

then saw a tiny little coloured thing.  Clicked it and sim sala bim, everything seems to be back in place now

thanks again  Smiley

(and I won't even bother trying to vote, because trying to discover how is what turned the forum upside down.  Go to GFrin, says someone named Vic.  Lots of help, no help.  So at least I will play no part in whomever 'wins' the all important Fringe mod contest.  Because I don't care anyway. Millions of fringe type forums online and I go to those anyway)
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Reply #218 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:09pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:57pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 10:37am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 8:51am:
I AM objecting to the IMAGERY and SO ARE MANY OTHERS !!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1561014292/14#14


You can object to the content all you like. I don't really like it either.

But in Australia, a country that will Refuse Classification to content that is of 2 consenting adults because one might have small breasts and look under 18, even if she's proved her age, that same censor has deemed the Southpark content to be only an M15 + rating, at least the original season 1 episode. I've not kept up with the game that these latest gifs appear to be from.

On top on that the owner of this forum has said they won't censor content that is safe for TV here.


WAS THIS ON TV?


So, I'd not looked into the full details of the image earlier when I made this post, but I had assumed that was from the game and not the TV Show.  I wasn't really interested in researching the images further, but here we are...

It's different from the original one I posted about and as I suspected it is from one of the Southpark games.  Turns out that was the case.  It was from The Stick of Truth.  But, in Australia, I believe the anal probing, even when your character is one of the adults was left out of the game in order for it to get the R18+ rating, therefore I've got no issue with that content being removed as it was not given a classification, therefore, I don't believe it would be considered censorship.

The original gif from April 2018 that FD commented on, that was from episode one of Southpark, titled Cartman gets an anal probe and still to this day has an M15+ rating and is still aired on free to air TV as well as Pay TV.

While the content is similar, there are the principles of free speech and censorship to contend with in this case.

I see many support Light in this.  These are the same people who cry bloody murder when they think content they like is being censored like right-wing nut jobs who get de-platformed or demonetised for breaking the rules.

Let me be clear, I don't support the content of the gifs, but banning perfectly legal content when those complaining have made no effort what so ever to have the classification of the content changed is a slippery slope.

What's next?  Do we ban content that is offensive to section mods?  I'm sure some will act that way and probably already do and again, those supporting Light on this probably don't care because it's usually in their favour.  But what happens when it isn't?

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i DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU HERE SAD?.. opps . light if he is mod here can do exactly as he pleases...like all the other mods....he does however have to follow  fds rules....just the same as we are expected to do...

I found that image confronting and totally disrespectful or shall we say mindful   of others...and that was what I call making    a post to defame another member here for his own gratification... Angry it was disgusting   and completely unnecessary

we seem to be at odds.....mmmmmmmm


Then change your vote.  It's that simple.

You either care about consistency and doing what is right, or you don't.
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Reply #219 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:18pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
I think its telling and sad that you need a government classification to tell you what is right and wrong. In the real world decent people have a personal moral compass. Its also telling that you and the others here defending this posting have the exact same political leanings. Why do you far left loonies always demand a nanny state? Think for yourself  man.


I made it clear early on that I don't like the content, but the owner of the site made a ruling on it, the discussion is over, in fact threads discussing it have been closed for that very reason.

I have worked in the ISP space where we have had to report, restrict access to child sexual abuse material and work with federal police to help with their investigations.

Light is acting like this gif from Southpark is that, so he can attack others.  Yes I may be letting my own experiences and bias on this matter show, but what he's doing to the real victims by cheaping their abuse by linking it to Southpark is unacceptable, and for what, to call people here paedophiles or insinuate, or flat out claim they condone child abuse?

It's unacceptable.

I've been a part of blocking the ACMA Blacklist years ago on an ISP level and the list, while it was not without it's flaws, was something that should have never seen the light of day, let a lone people accessing what was on it.

I was an advocate against the mandatory ISP level filtering initially based off that list with the full intention to have a greater government controlled scope of what is or isn't allowed online.

Through fighting against that, even if I was required by law and my employment at the time to play ball, those against the idea of secret Government controlled censorship of the internet had a moderate win in that what is being blocked is the Interpol list, but a monumental failure overall now that the filtering is in place as well as the mandatory data retention is to boot.

So forgive me if Light's faux outrage to perpetuate his justification to attack other posters here, claiming they support the sexual abuse of children when he has no idea the lengths that some posters may have gone to in the very fight against that doesn't make me take his triggered snowflake reaction over Southpark seriously. 

To avoid this topic altogether I wouldn't allow the content from the game to be posted here but would come down hard on those exploiting the issue for their personal gain.

I know Light will have a problem with that, hence him reaching out for support from all these posters who I've rarely if ever, seen in the Fringe before now.
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Reply #220 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:26pm
 
It appears to me that if the owner of this site was against censorship then he wouldnt allow posters to be banned for some Gmods personal dislikes. Its called lip service. I also dont think Lights outrage is faux. Certainly if you arrived at immigration at the airport and you had that subject material on your phone then your visa would quite probably be refused on character grounds.
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Reply #221 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:28pm
 
And yes it was on TV, so what? Millions of people complained, in some countries it was banned as child porn and in other countries restricted to adults only.
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Reply #222 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:29pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:26pm:
It appears to me that if the owner of this site was against censorship then he wouldnt allow posters to be banned for some Gmods personal dislikes. Its called lip service. I also dont think Lights outrage is faux. Certainly if you arrived at immigration at the airport and you had that subject material on your phone then your visa would quite probably be refused on character grounds. 



Master Light is genuine and he correctly called out
offensive material posted by John Smith.
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Reply #223 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:32pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:26pm:
It appears to me that if the owner of this site was against censorship then he wouldnt allow posters to be banned for some Gmods personal dislikes. Its called lip service. I also dont think Lights outrage is faux. Certainly if you arrived at immigration at the airport and you had that subject material on your phone then your visa would quite probably be refused on character grounds. 



Smiley


and then they'd seize the phone, begin enquiries

and boy, if they learned the suspect had contact with kids …..
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Reply #224 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 6:34pm
 
I think Light is a little nuts but hes a genuine good soul. Good people cant look away Bobby, thats whats wrong with the world. Its why you and me sleep the sleep of the just,  and others, well they dont.
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