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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 21523 Gender:	Re: Climate Change: Why Australia needs to do NOTHING! Reply #90 - Jan 1^st, 2020 at 1:14pm poor DNA. never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Reply #91 - Jan 1^st, 2020 at 3:06pm

lee wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 1:12pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 12:15pm:

The extraordinary rainfall event was October (spring) 2010 to March 2011
They are 2 separate events

And yet the CSIRO, which you quoted, said that 2011 was 60% above normal. I know you don't do maths. So I did them for you. Grin

lee wrote on Dec 30^th, 2019 at 3:54pm:

lee wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 3:02pm:
lee wrote on Dec 27th, 2019 at 4:33pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 20th, 2019 at 7:41am:]Almost 60% of the higher than normal carbon uptake that year, or 840 million tons, happened in Australia. That was due to a combination of factors, including geography and a run of very dry years, followed by record-breaking rains in 2010 and 2011. https://blog.csiro.au/record-rains-made-australia-a-giant-green-global-carbon-si

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"While atmospheric carbon dioxide still rose in 2011, it grew at a much lower rate – nearly 20% lower – than the average growth over the previous decade."

So 2011 was 60% higher than "normal".

Why don't you like the CSIRO anymore? Grin

Not sure why you have suddenly started talking about 2011. I could have sworn your arguments were about 2010
But then, you never do like explaining yourself because you like to be vague Wink

But I haven't got the time or the patience to keep engaging you when you clearly have no interest in having an honest debate. Roll Eyes

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Reply #93 - Jan 1^st, 2020 at 4:38pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 3:06pm:

Not sure why you have suddenly started talking about 2011. I could have sworn your arguments were about 2010

You wanted another year petal. You got it.

As I said about 2010 even if I used the 60% figure for it it would still have been sequestration. Grin

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2020 at 3:06pm:

But I haven't got the time or the patience to keep engaging you when you clearly have no interest in having an honest debate

So tell me why you don't like the CSIRO any more? Grin

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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122013 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Climate Change: Why Australia needs to do NOTHING! Reply #94 - Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 8:56am Jennifer Marohasy discusses the changes that the Australian Government is making to historical temperature records to suit the published climate change science.
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Reply #95 - Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 7:54pm

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-12-climate-change-hoax-collapses-new-science...

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62269 Here Gender:	Re: Climate Change: Why Australia needs to do NOTHING! Reply #96 - Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 7:59pm Quote: Why Australia needs to do NOTHING! Liberal governments are just great at that.
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Reply #97 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 12:42pm

Ajax wrote on Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:49am:

Australia's eco system sequesters more CO2 every year than Australia emits, therefore we are a carbon neutral country, what we emit is taken up by our land and its eco system.

Except of course that you haven't included bushfires in your calculation. And if it takes 100 years to reabsorb all the CO2 released in the bushfires then your claim that Australia is carbon neutral is debunked

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Australia's bushfires are believed to have spewed as much as two-thirds of the nation's annual carbon dioxide emissions in just the past three months, with experts warning forests may take more than 100 years to absorb what's been released so far this season.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bushfires-spew-two-thirds-of-national-ca...

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Reply #98 - Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 12:42pm:

Australia's bushfires are believed to have spewed as much as two-thirds of the nation's annual carbon dioxide emissions in just the past three months, with experts warning forests may take more than 100 years to absorb what's been released so far this season.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bushfires-spew-two-thirds-of-national-ca...

Poor Barney. These experts said MAY Barney immediately assumes WILL. Grin

But from the paper -

"Until recently, Australia's forests were thought to reabsorb all the carbon released in bushfires, meaning they achieved net zero emissions, but scientists say climate change is making bushfires burn more intensely and frequently."

Oh noes. Barney's "Australia is not a sink" goes up in flames. Grin

And as I said earlier according to the CSIRO we normally have net sequestration of 525Mt. So it should take perhaps a year.

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Reply #99 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 11:48am

Ajax wrote on Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:49am:

Australia's eco system sequesters more CO2 every year than Australia emits, therefore we are a carbon neutral country, what we emit is taken up by our land and its eco system.

lee wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 5:27pm:

"Until recently, Australia's forests were thought to reabsorb all the carbon released in bushfires, meaning they achieved net zero emissions

As usual lee completely misses the point

If Australian forests reabsorb all the CO₂ emitted by bushfires for net zero emissions I guess that backs up my claim that Ajax's calculations are wrong in the OP and that Australia is not a Carbon sink

Thanks for once again inadvertantly supporting my argument Grin

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Reply #100 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 3:39pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 11:48am:

If Australian forests reabsorb all the CO2 emitted by bushfires for net zero emissions I guess that backs up my claim that Ajax's calculations are wrong in the OP and that Australia is not a Carbon sink

And the CSIRO are liars? Grin

And burning wood is not part of the carbon cycle? Strange that the DRAX power station in Britain is importing wood pellets form Canada and the US to burn instead of coal and burning bunker fuel to get it there. Wink

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Reply #101 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 8:33pm

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Place is burning down around our ears - Still want to do nothing ?

OH penrith today 49 degrees. Record high in Canberra. Australia has today's highest world temperature.

WOW 49 Degrees in Sydney's west, never thought that would ever happen. Apparently the planet is cooling - No.

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Reply #102 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 9:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 8:33pm:

Place is burning down around our ears - Still want to do nothing ?

Nope. Not burning around my ears.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 8:33pm:

OH penrith today 49 degrees. Record high in Canberra. Australia has today's highest world temperature.

Well I hardly thought it would be Nome Alaska. Grin

But Windsor Observatory (NSW) 122F (50C) in 1939.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 8:33pm:

WOW 49 Degrees in Sydney's west, never thought that would ever happen.

You don't think much do you? Grin

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Reply #103 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 12:51pm

So answer me this lee

For years now you have obsessively and dutifully responding to every single climate change post. In fact it was amusing to watch you on Christmas day - one by one - responding to every post. Always denying, always coming up with some convoluted explanation or excuse (you haven't mentioned Occam's razor for a while Wink

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So why have you completely ignored Ajax's thread "Oz on fire - Corporations playing with our weather"
Surely this would be right up your alley. Human induced weather/climate change.
So why have you ignored it? Wink

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Reply #104 - Jan 5^th, 2020 at 12:57pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 5^th, 2020 at 12:51pm:

So answer me this lee

For years now you have obsessively and dutifully responding to every single climate change post. In fact it was amusing to watch you on Christmas day - one by one - responding to every post. Always denying, always coming up with some convoluted explanation or excuse (you haven't mentioned Occam's razor for a while Wink

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So why have you completely ignored Ajax's thread "Oz on fire - Corporations playing with our weather"
Surely this would be right up your alley. Human induced weather/climate change.
So why have you ignored it? Wink

What has that to do with the price of fish barny..........???

Can you answer the following....?

On one hand we have the United Nations World Meteorological Organisation conducting weather and climate modification programmes in 60 countries around the world.

On the other we have the United Nations IPCC telling us that all these weather events and patterns are due to mans emissions of CO2.

Both the IPCC & WMO are branches of the United Nations.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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