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Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP
Dec 21^st, 2019 at 1:48am

Some Evangelicals are having second thoughts about supporting an indecent man. I think Trump is the best representative of the true, inner and hidden values of White Christian America the country has ever had.

Evangelical magazine Christianity Today calls for Trump's removal after impeachment

Publication founded by televangelist Billy Graham splits with Trump’s base, calling president’s actions ‘immoral’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/19/trump-evangelical-christian-maga...

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Reply #1 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 7:34am

What is funny is how the GOP and the rest of the Trumptards are calling CT a 'far-left' publication. it is a very conservative right-wing magazine and always has been. If you read the entire editorial - and I have - you can see how the author is begrudgingly admitting that Trump is a conman and a grossly immoral character. It has taken him 3 years to say this and still criticised the Democrats in the process, but somewhere in his soul, he chose to stand up for the Biblical definitions of good leadership and moral behaviour and declare that TRump was not just unfit but GROSSLY unfit and immoral. And that word - grossly - is what makes it all different. Everyone is a sinner and most are immoral in some way, but he accuses Trump of being GROSSLY so.

Foxnews of course had a meltdown and even Franklin Graham criticised it, but the fact is that now it is out. Now someone in a prime position has had the belated courage to say that the Emperor has no clothes.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #2 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:37am Christianity Today does not have a mega audience and is not as influential as it once was in Billy Graham's day The publication reflects theological conservatism, verbal restraint, and mature reportage. Hence, it is of no interest to Trump's evangelical FOX News base.
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Reply #3 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:44am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 7:34am:

What is funny is how the GOP and the rest of the Trumptards are calling CT a 'far-left' publication. it is a very conservative right-wing magazine and always has been. If you read the entire editorial - and I have - you can see how the author is begrudgingly admitting that Trump is a conman and a grossly immoral character. It has taken him 3 years to say this and still criticised the Democrats in the process, but somewhere in his soul, he chose to stand up for the Biblical definitions of good leadership and moral behaviour and declare that TRump was not just unfit but GROSSLY unfit and immoral. And that word - grossly - is what makes it all different. Everyone is a sinner and most are immoral in some way, but he accuses Trump of being GROSSLY so.

Foxnews of course had a meltdown and even Franklin Graham criticised it, but the fact is that now it is out. Now someone in a prime position has had the belated courage to say that the Emperor has no clothes.

Trump calls it "far left" which is not only ludicrous but provides one in a long string of examples as to his and his followers' incapacity to reason or converse with any degree of realism.

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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #4 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:52am Why the eff are you in the Ozpol forum demanding trump be removed ? Get an effing grip !
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #5 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:57am PZ547 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:52am: Why the eff are you in the Ozpol forum demanding trump be removed ? Get an effing grip ! Get your hand off the bottle ...
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #6 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:03am AiA wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:57am: PZ547 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:52am: Why the eff are you in the Ozpol forum demanding trump be removed ? Get an effing grip ! Get your hand off the bottle ... get your hand off yourself
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Reply #7 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:04am

PZ547 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:03am:

AiA wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:57am:

PZ547 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:52am:

Why the eff are you in the Ozpol forum demanding trump be removed ?

Get an effing grip !

Get your hand off the bottle ...

get your hand off yourself

I haven't demanded Trump be removed as you suggested. Are you drunk?

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Reply #8 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:08am

Christianity in a way has lost it's way

What is the basic message we can take from the life of Jesus Christ
The story of Jesus is of a man who came to shake up the establishment
He preached the good news
That news is that you must pick up your cross and bear it responsibily with nobility

Jesus was betrayed by all his friends
He was hauled before the establishment
A mock trial followed

Jesus did not bend or break
He picked up his cross and continued to carry it up the hill
In the spirit of a noble man who would not let the establishment break him.

The Donald burst onto the stage as some sort of Messiah like figure
Scorned by the establishment
But making a deep connection with the common man
Hauled before the Pharisees
Treated by the fake news of the sanhedrin and of Rome
But still marching on to glory

Trump is a religious figure
That's what the left just don't get about trump
Will the followers of any religion
Take Islam as an example
Give up their beliefs because illogical statements are contained in the sacredtexts
No

The fine people of real America we're let down by the Christian church and now they are devotees' of the religion of Donald
I feel it when the left attack Donald
And his supporters
They are guilty of religious vilification
And they should be tried for hate crimes

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:21am aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:08am: Christianity in a way has lost it's way Christianity lost its way when Emperor Constantine used it as an excuse to take up the sword.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146514 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #10 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:24am aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:08am: Jesus did not bend or break He didn't have to pay off Mary Magdalene to keep her quiet either.
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Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP
Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:34am

I pray, let the spirit, of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, guide the counselors of President Trump.

But in any case, President Donald J. Trump is President of the U.S.A., because it suits God's purposes that he is.

Proverbs 8:14
Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146514 Gender:	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:42am Yadda wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:34am: I pray, let the spirit, of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, guide the counselors of President Trump. But in any case, President Donald J. Trump is President of the U.S.A.... He is also officially impeached. Life is good
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Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP
Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:02am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 10:08am:

Christianity in a way has lost it's way

What is the basic message we can take from the life of Jesus Christ
The story of Jesus is of a man who came to shake up the establishment
He preached the good news
That news is that you must pick up your cross and bear it responsibily with nobility

Jesus was betrayed by all his friends
He was hauled before the establishment
A mock trial followed

Jesus did not bend or break
He picked up his cross and continued to carry it up the hill
In the spirit of a noble man who would not let the establishment break him.

The Donald burst onto the stage as some sort of Messiah like figure
Scorned by the establishment
But making a deep connection with the common man
Hauled before the Pharisees
Treated by the fake news of the sanhedrin and of Rome
But still marching on to glory

Trump is a religious figure
That's what the left just don't get about trump
Will the followers of any religion
Take Islam as an example
Give up their beliefs because illogical statements are contained in the sacredtexts
No

The fine people of real America we're let down by the Christian church and now they are devotees' of the religion of Donald
I feel it when the left attack Donald
And his supporters
They are guilty of religious vilification
And they should be tried for hate crimes

as usual, you have no idea of what you write. you are an imbecile.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22392 A cat with a view	Re: Christianity Today: REMOVE TRUMP Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2019 at 11:12am @ Reply #8 aquascoot, An excellent post, with a different, refreshing perspective about 'what the hell is happening !!' in the world ! Bravo.
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