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Re: New Zealand volcano
Reply #30 - Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

and or melted 800 deg of heat what could be left??????......they were inside the bloody thing no one knows where exactly I would say its an impossible task.. no one came out alive after Mt Vesuvius .. and this seems pretty similar.....by sheer luck it is an island and not in the middle of land mass......

It's shocking Cods.
Of more concern is that for the injured:

https://edition.cnn.com/australia/live-news/new-zealand-volcano-live-intl/index....

All New Zealand's burns units are at full capacity with patients

Almost all patients who were evacuated from White Island after the eruption have extensive burns to their bodies, a spokesman for the Ministry of Health said.

Spokesman Pete Watson said all of New Zealand's burns units are at capacity.

Out of the 31 people who are still in hospital after the eruption,
27 have burns to at least 30% of their bodies, Watson said.

He said many also have inhalation burns, which will require airway support. The ages of the victims are between 13 and 72, he said.

"It's possible not all of the patients will survive," Watson said.

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Re: New Zealand volcano
Reply #31 - Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:42pm

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

and or melted 800 deg of heat what could be left??????......they were inside the bloody thing no one knows where exactly I would say its an impossible task.. no one came out alive after Mt Vesuvius .. and this seems pretty similar.....by sheer luck it is an island and not in the middle of land mass......

Nope cods. Get it right. They were 'inside' nothing. If anything, they were on top of.

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Reply #32 - Dec 10^th, 2019 at 10:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:10pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

and or melted 800 deg of heat what could be left??????......they were inside the bloody thing no one knows where exactly I would say its an impossible task.. no one came out alive after Mt Vesuvius .. and this seems pretty similar.....by sheer luck it is an island and not in the middle of land mass......

It's shocking Cods.
Of more concern is that for the injured:

https://edition.cnn.com/australia/live-news/new-zealand-volcano-live-intl/index....

All New Zealand's burns units are at full capacity with patients

Almost all patients who were evacuated from White Island after the eruption have extensive burns to their bodies, a spokesman for the Ministry of Health said.

Spokesman Pete Watson said all of New Zealand's burns units are at capacity.

Out of the 31 people who are still in hospital after the eruption,
27 have burns to at least 30% of their bodies, Watson said.

He said many also have inhalation burns, which will require airway support. The ages of the victims are between 13 and 72, he said.

"It's possible not all of the patients will survive," Watson said.

one hasnt bobby sadly I would think for the best

these injuries are horrific... even for those who are helping them it would be shocking.....children as well OMG it breaks my heart!

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Reply #33 - Dec 10^th, 2019 at 10:37pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

and or melted 800 deg of heat what could be left??????......they were inside the bloody thing no one knows where exactly I would say its an impossible task.. no one came out alive after Mt Vesuvius .. and this seems pretty similar.....by sheer luck it is an island and not in the middle of land mass......

Nope cods. Get it right. They were 'inside' nothing. If anything, they were on top of.

most would know what I mean I forget to spell everything out for you.... Angry

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Reply #35 - Dec 10^th, 2019 at 11:58pm

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 10:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

and or melted 800 deg of heat what could be left??????......they were inside the bloody thing no one knows where exactly I would say its an impossible task.. no one came out alive after Mt Vesuvius .. and this seems pretty similar.....by sheer luck it is an island and not in the middle of land mass......

Nope cods. Get it right. They were 'inside' nothing. If anything, they were on top of.

most would know what I mean I forget to spell everything out for you.... Angry

There was a camera setup on the rim of the volcano for geological purposes and captured this.

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Reply #36 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 5:32am

its hard to know where the rim starts or maybe finishes...I had seen that picture thanks xeej and thats what I was referring too......too hard for aussie to work out though...there are always daredevils amongst us who will go right to the edge of everything

no one was on high alert for this to happen sadly looks like no warnings were given out at all....... Cry

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Reply #37 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:06am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

Time will tell Bob, I heard an interview with a fixed wing pilot whom was flying above the island liaising with the chopper pilots that landed shortly after the eruption, he stated that a number of bodies were checked for signs of life and deemed to be deceased, when pushed on the number he implied around 7 or 8, these people were left where they lay ,,

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Reply #38 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:23am

BigP wrote on Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

BigP wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 10^th, 2019 at 2:45pm:

can you imagine they will find anything of the missing 8

it looks like a moon crater........

I dont see how they can call them missing anymore. Sad

They know where they are, west-pack paramedics found and checked them for signs of life, they are just waiting for things to settle down before the recover them , No point in risking someones life to recover a corpse

are you sure?...

I am not sure they even know how many are missing to be honest..now the police are investigating it....

it looks like someone stuffed up.....the guys that monitor these thing have been saying for a long time its going to erupt...

I think BigP is mistaken.
You'd think that some bodies would be buried in
meters of ash and may never be found.

Time will tell Bob, I heard an interview with a fixed wing pilot whom was flying above the island liaising with the chopper pilots that landed shortly after the eruption, he stated that a number of bodies were checked for signs of life and deemed to be deceased, when pushed on the number he implied around 7 or 8, these people were left where they lay ,,

You can be our on the spot journalist -

go there and take some pics.
You'll be famous.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: New Zealand volcano Reply #39 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:28am one of the helicopter pilots was on this morning he picked up many injured he also said he knew the spot where two deceased were....it will be a terrible job bringing back the bodies...I pray they find them all such a cruel way to die
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Reply #40 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

cods wrote on Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:28am:

one of the helicopter pilots was on this morning he picked up many injured he also said he knew the spot where two deceased were....it will be a terrible job bringing back the bodies...I pray they find them all such a cruel way to die

It's worse than we all thought:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50738613

What state are the injured in?

White Island is a popular tourist destination with frequent day tours and scenic flights available. At least 47 visitors from around the world were on the volcano crater at the time of two explosions in quick succession.

Police said that of the 30 injured, 25 are in a critical condition while the other five are classed as stable but serious.

In pictures: White Island eruption
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Mr Nash explained the injuries to the survivors were so severe that some of them were unable to identify themselves.

"There are a number of people in hospital who cannot communicate, they have significant burns not only to skin but internal organs," he told Radio New Zealand.

"We wish them the best but we're not out of the woods yet, of that there's no doubt."

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Reply #41 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 4:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

cods wrote on Dec 11^th, 2019 at 6:28am:

one of the helicopter pilots was on this morning he picked up many injured he also said he knew the spot where two deceased were....it will be a terrible job bringing back the bodies...I pray they find them all such a cruel way to die

It's worse than we all thought:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50738613

What state are the injured in?

White Island is a popular tourist destination with frequent day tours and scenic flights available. At least 47 visitors from around the world were on the volcano crater at the time of two explosions in quick succession.

Police said that of the 30 injured, 25 are in a critical condition while the other five are classed as stable but serious.

In pictures: White Island eruption
New Zealand profile

Mr Nash explained the injuries to the survivors were so severe that some of them were unable to identify themselves.

"There are a number of people in hospital who cannot communicate, they have significant burns not only to skin but internal organs," he told Radio New Zealand.

"We wish them the best but we're not out of the woods yet, of that there's no doubt."

they will never recover bobs.... I doubt even the medical staff know where to start...so cruel...skin being flown in from America.....I dont know what to say..they can do wonderful things today but burns .....I dont know its takes many years and still nothing will be the same...

my heart breaks for them......I almost cry watching the news....even those who are not injured are going to suffer for a long time.......its a nightmare!

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ChrisP Full Member Offline Posts: 128 Sydney	Re: New Zealand volcano Reply #42 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 4:27pm How on earth could this happen? Tours from a Cruise Ship to visit an active volcano? Sure they wouldn't know when the volcano was about to erupt ... but .... So sad when entire families are missing.
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Reply #43 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 4:36pm

it is what it is chrisP.... like base jumping why do people do it... because they can...

maybe at the end of the day the NZ govt are responsible for allowing it to be used as a tourist attraction.... Sad

.... as it is some folks actually live at the foot of volcanos Roll Eyes

why is anyones guess....

NZ being a target for earthquakes that hit at any time in any place.. you would think they would not have taken this risk...

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Reply #44 - Dec 11^th, 2019 at 5:30pm

cods wrote on Dec 11^th, 2019 at 4:36pm:

it is what it is chrisP.... like base jumping why do people do it... because they can...

maybe at the end of the day the NZ govt are responsible for allowing it to be used as a tourist attraction.... Sad

.... as it is some folks actually live at the foot of volcanos Roll Eyes

why is anyones guess....

NZ being a target for earthquakes that hit at any time in any place.. you would think they would not have taken this risk...

Try living in Rotorua on top of a giant crater -
steam and sulfur come out of the ground 24 hours a day.
60,000 people live there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotorua

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