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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #45 - Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:08pm

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 9:49am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:01am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

Steele was a British and FBI agent - he worked for the British and US govs.

Steele fabricated a fake dozier for Hillary. Hillary did not care whether it was true or not - just that it would damaged Trump.

The British gov knew what Steele was doing but Hillary ignored their warnings.

The real difference is that Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to continue the investigation into Burisma and the Russian hoax started in the Ukraine.

This is part of Trumps commitment to fulfill his mandate and honor his contract with the US people!

Draining the swamp!

Spin away trolls!

more than that Richdude ..

Steele was frantically soliciting ANY and ALL " intelligence " through the halls of the Kremlin

from ACTIVE RUSSIAN SPIES .. they simply sent disinfo to dismantle the US Elections and Hillary paid for it ..

IT WORKED as 3 years later this sham and disinfo is still believed by the mind controlled Libtard Imbeciles ..

we see we know

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Nay too, dear one. The Kremlin has denied the contents of the Steele Dossier.

Mr Trump, strangely, has not. He first pretended he wasn't in Russia on the dates, then retracted. He didn't stay in that hotel, then retracted. He didn't have the Presidential Suite, then retracted. He didn't have anyone come up to his room...

His bodyguards retracted that one.

Anyway, that's that. Mr Trump has proven the contents of the Steele Dossier with his words and actions. He has taken foreign policy directly from Putin, and he continues to do so. His body language in the presence of Putin indicates subservience, fear, an overwhealming desire to obey.

Yes, Master.

and you of course believe them right ?

OH DEAR

Negative, dear one. I most certainly do not.

When Putin says there was no kompromat, it's a sign that there was. Whatever Putin says, the opposite is usually true. Russians generally believe this about their leaders.

Remember, Putin sits at the source of the fake news agenda. Its origins begin and end with him. Mr Trump, Brexit and the whole anti-Western alliance crusade lead back to Russia in one way or another.

Putin, ex-KGB, has deep experience with PrOpAgAnDa. It helped bring him to power. It certainly keeps him there.

Mr Trump doesn't care about power - he merely wants attention. The British don't care about Brexit - they care about immigration. Putin has been able to leverage these desires to his own ends, which are, essentially, the division of the Western world. Divide, as they say, and conquer. Putin wants to take back the Soviet Union. He wants a new Cold War. And this time, he wants to win.

This, dear one, is the project you gleefully join in on. You disseminate Putin's fake news. You preach the agenda. You promote yourself as an independent thinker, but you have no idea of the sources of your fake news. In many, if not most, cases, you haven't even read it.

This is why it is the burden of one such as I Am to expose your FaKeRy.

It_is_the_light, no?

Rarely, well apart from Ducky Boy, have I seen such ignorant BS in one post.

Carnal has thrown of his inane mocking posts and revealed his true insanity.

yes Richdude ,

Karnal/abu is the lost internet Tranny conspiracy theorist ..

and thats a mouthful aint it maam

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #46 - Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:51pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:08pm:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 9:49am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:01am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

Steele was a British and FBI agent - he worked for the British and US govs.

Steele fabricated a fake dozier for Hillary. Hillary did not care whether it was true or not - just that it would damaged Trump.

The British gov knew what Steele was doing but Hillary ignored their warnings.

The real difference is that Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to continue the investigation into Burisma and the Russian hoax started in the Ukraine.

This is part of Trumps commitment to fulfill his mandate and honor his contract with the US people!

Draining the swamp!

Spin away trolls!

more than that Richdude ..

Steele was frantically soliciting ANY and ALL " intelligence " through the halls of the Kremlin

from ACTIVE RUSSIAN SPIES .. they simply sent disinfo to dismantle the US Elections and Hillary paid for it ..

IT WORKED as 3 years later this sham and disinfo is still believed by the mind controlled Libtard Imbeciles ..

we see we know

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Nay too, dear one. The Kremlin has denied the contents of the Steele Dossier.

Mr Trump, strangely, has not. He first pretended he wasn't in Russia on the dates, then retracted. He didn't stay in that hotel, then retracted. He didn't have the Presidential Suite, then retracted. He didn't have anyone come up to his room...

His bodyguards retracted that one.

Anyway, that's that. Mr Trump has proven the contents of the Steele Dossier with his words and actions. He has taken foreign policy directly from Putin, and he continues to do so. His body language in the presence of Putin indicates subservience, fear, an overwhealming desire to obey.

Yes, Master.

and you of course believe them right ?

OH DEAR

Negative, dear one. I most certainly do not.

When Putin says there was no kompromat, it's a sign that there was. Whatever Putin says, the opposite is usually true. Russians generally believe this about their leaders.

Remember, Putin sits at the source of the fake news agenda. Its origins begin and end with him. Mr Trump, Brexit and the whole anti-Western alliance crusade lead back to Russia in one way or another.

Putin, ex-KGB, has deep experience with PrOpAgAnDa. It helped bring him to power. It certainly keeps him there.

Mr Trump doesn't care about power - he merely wants attention. The British don't care about Brexit - they care about immigration. Putin has been able to leverage these desires to his own ends, which are, essentially, the division of the Western world. Divide, as they say, and conquer. Putin wants to take back the Soviet Union. He wants a new Cold War. And this time, he wants to win.

This, dear one, is the project you gleefully join in on. You disseminate Putin's fake news. You preach the agenda. You promote yourself as an independent thinker, but you have no idea of the sources of your fake news. In many, if not most, cases, you haven't even read it.

This is why it is the burden of one such as I Am to expose your FaKeRy.

It_is_the_light, no?

Rarely, well apart from Ducky Boy, have I seen such ignorant BS in one post.

Carnal has thrown of his inane mocking posts and revealed his true insanity.

yes Richdude ,

Karnal/abu is the lost internet Tranny conspiracy theorist ..

https://media.tenor.com/images/091e9bac706aaca7a49781b8d0889a3d/tenor.gif

and thats a mouthful aint it maam

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And this is the end result of yours, dear.

At the end of the day, when all is said and done, you have trannies. You might have no argument, no insight and no original thought, dear one, but you'll always have sir and ma'am, no?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #47 - Dec 7^th, 2019 at 9:26am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/court-denies-fbi-effort-to-block-releas...

Court Denies FBI Effort to Block Release of Secret Records About FBI-Clinton Lawyer Meeting on Russia

by Cristina Laila December 6, 2019

Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch on Friday announced that US District Judge James E. Boasberg, an Obama appointee, denied FBI efforts to keep secret records about a Clinton lawyer’s meeting with FBI lawyer James Baker related to ‘Trump Russia.’

In October of 2018, former FBI lawyer James Baker testified that he received a packet of information from Michael Sussmann, a Perkins Coie law partner (and former DOJ lawyer) targeting Trump during the 2016 presidential election.

Perkins Coie was the same law firm that represented the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign — Hillary funneled money through Perkins Coie to pay for the phony Russia dossier.

“It was like — my recollection was it was a stack of material I don’t know maybe a quarter inch half inch thick something like that clipped together, and then I believe there was some type of electronic media, as well, a disk or something,” James Baker said to the House Judiciary and Oversight committees.

Baker also told lawmakers that Sussmann had shared some of the damaging information on Trump to the media.

FBI Director Wray is still covering for Hillary Clinton, but a federal judge on Friday blocked the FBI/DOJ from keeping these communications under wraps.

Via Judicial Watch:

Judicial Watch announced today that U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg denied a Justice Department effort to block the release of any communications between former FBI General Counsel James Baker and Michael Sussmann, a Perkins Coie law partner and former DOJ attorney, who reportedly met with Baker to share information targeting Donald J. Trump during the presidential campaign. While at Perkins Coie, Sussmann represented the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign during the time Perkins Coie secretly paid for the development of the anti-Trump dossier the DOJ used to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. The court specifically rejected the FBI’s argument that it needed to protect the “privacy” of Hillary Clinton’s lawyer.

Judge Boasberg ruled: “[A]ny risk of invasion [of privacy] evaporated once Baker publicly testified that he had received documents from Sussmann, as well as met with and spoken to him on multiple occasions in 2016.”

“The FBI is corruptly trying to keep secret documents to protect those behind the Russiagate smears of President Trump,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Two federal courts have now rejected the FBI’s desperate attempts to hide the details of its anti-Trump conspiracy with Hillary Clinton’s Fusion GPS-FBI spy operation. Why is Director Wray allowing the corrupt cover up the FBI’s Russiagate collusions with the Clinton gang?”

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Wray FBI tried to cover up for Clinton's spy Christopher Steele, citing his "privacy" as reason to hide docs. Thankfully, court rejected that dishonest argument and ordered new search for docs. @JudicialWatch doing the heavy lifting again. @RealDonaldTrump https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/judicial-watch-federal-judge-orders-fbi-to-search-for-steele-documents/ …

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Reply #48 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 2:57am

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 9:49am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:01am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

Steele was a British and FBI agent - he worked for the British and US govs.

Steele fabricated a fake dozier for Hillary. Hillary did not care whether it was true or not - just that it would damaged Trump.

The British gov knew what Steele was doing but Hillary ignored their warnings.

The real difference is that Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to continue the investigation into Burisma and the Russian hoax started in the Ukraine.

This is part of Trumps commitment to fulfill his mandate and honor his contract with the US people!

Draining the swamp!

Spin away trolls!

more than that Richdude ..

Steele was frantically soliciting ANY and ALL " intelligence " through the halls of the Kremlin

from ACTIVE RUSSIAN SPIES .. they simply sent disinfo to dismantle the US Elections and Hillary paid for it ..

IT WORKED as 3 years later this sham and disinfo is still believed by the mind controlled Libtard Imbeciles ..

we see we know

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Nay too, dear one. The Kremlin has denied the contents of the Steele Dossier.

Mr Trump, strangely, has not. He first pretended he wasn't in Russia on the dates, then retracted. He didn't stay in that hotel, then retracted. He didn't have the Presidential Suite, then retracted. He didn't have anyone come up to his room...

His bodyguards retracted that one.

Anyway, that's that. Mr Trump has proven the contents of the Steele Dossier with his words and actions. He has taken foreign policy directly from Putin, and he continues to do so. His body language in the presence of Putin indicates subservience, fear, an overwhealming desire to obey.

Yes, Master.

and you of course believe them right ?

OH DEAR

Negative, dear one. I most certainly do not.

When Putin says there was no kompromat, it's a sign that there was. Whatever Putin says, the opposite is usually true. Russians generally believe this about their leaders.

Remember, Putin sits at the source of the fake news agenda. Its origins begin and end with him. Mr Trump, Brexit and the whole anti-Western alliance crusade lead back to Russia in one way or another.

Putin, ex-KGB, has deep experience with PrOpAgAnDa. It helped bring him to power. It certainly keeps him there.

Mr Trump doesn't care about power - he merely wants attention. The British don't care about Brexit - they care about immigration. Putin has been able to leverage these desires to his own ends, which are, essentially, the division of the Western world. Divide, as they say, and conquer. Putin wants to take back the Soviet Union. He wants a new Cold War. And this time, he wants to win.

This, dear one, is the project you gleefully join in on. You disseminate Putin's fake news. You preach the agenda. You promote yourself as an independent thinker, but you have no idea of the sources of your fake news. In many, if not most, cases, you haven't even read it.

This is why it is the burden of one such as I Am to expose your FaKeRy.

It_is_the_light, no?

Rarely, well apart from Ducky Boy, have I seen such ignorant BS in one post.

Carnal has thrown of his inane mocking posts and revealed his true insanity.

And this is the sum total of your contribution to our discussions.

It_is_the_light, no?

Well making such obviously fallacious comments - what do you expect.

Do you see Putin under your bed and wherever you go?

Putin is the convenient boogy man of our time. He represents the interests of his nation - not the global cartel and that's why hes hated. This is what Trump and him have in common and why the media lump them together.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜ Reply #49 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 3:30am Bribery is an impeachable offence, yes. Using that information against a political opponent is an impeachable offence, yes. However, the Senate will redefine "bribery" and Trump will go Scot free. Therefore future presidents will be emboldened to do the same thing.
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Reply #50 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 4:01am

AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 3:30am:

Bribery is an impeachable offence, yes. Using that information against a political opponent is an impeachable offence, yes. However, the Senate will redefine "bribery" and Trump will go Scot free. Therefore future presidents will be emboldened to do the same thing.

2 Affidavits from the Ukrainian leader and the prosecutor, as well as no evidence from ANY witnesses or transcripts.

In fact ZERO evidence, yet these loonies continue to spout their rabid nonsense.

They can't impeach him legally - hell lets make it up and impeach him anyway.

He's exposing too much - "we have to stop him anyway we can". This is a very good reason why Trump should get 4 more years - drown the crooked bastards!

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Reply #51 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 10:33am

Richdude wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 4:01am:

AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 3:30am:

Bribery is an impeachable offence, yes. Using that information against a political opponent is an impeachable offence, yes. However, the Senate will redefine "bribery" and Trump will go Scot free. Therefore future presidents will be emboldened to do the same thing.

2 Affidavits from the Ukrainian leader and the prosecutor, as well as no evidence from ANY witnesses or transcripts.

In fact ZERO evidence, yet these loonies continue to spout their rabid nonsense.

They can't impeach him legally - hell lets make it up and impeach him anyway.

He's exposing too much - "we have to stop him anyway we can". This is a very good reason why Trump should get 4 more years - drown the crooked bastards!

Got nothing to say Ay?

What about Ducky Boy - got any more ridiculous comments?

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Reply #52 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 11:06am

AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 3:30am:

Bribery is an impeachable offence, yes. Using that information against a political opponent is an impeachable offence, yes. However, the Senate will redefine "bribery" and Trump will go Scot free. Therefore future presidents will be emboldened to do the same thing.

Exactly.

He's ruined the office of POTUS.

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Reply #53 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 11:50am

Richdude wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 2:57am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 9:49am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 7:19am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 6:25am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2019 at 12:01am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

[quote author=Richdude link=1575465046/2#2 date=1575469701] Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

Steele was a British and FBI agent - he worked for the British and US govs.

Steele fabricated a fake dozier for Hillary. Hillary did not care whether it was true or not - just that it would damaged Trump.

The British gov knew what Steele was doing but Hillary ignored their warnings.

The real difference is that Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to continue the investigation into Burisma and the Russian hoax started in the Ukraine.

This is part of Trumps commitment to fulfill his mandate and honor his contract with the US people!

Draining the swamp!

Spin away trolls!

more than that Richdude ..

Steele was frantically soliciting ANY and ALL " intelligence " through the halls of the Kremlin

from ACTIVE RUSSIAN SPIES .. they simply sent disinfo to dismantle the US Elections and Hillary paid for it ..

IT WORKED as 3 years later this sham and disinfo is still believed by the mind controlled Libtard Imbeciles ..

we see we know

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Nay too, dear one. The Kremlin has denied the contents of the Steele Dossier.

Mr Trump, strangely, has not. He first pretended he wasn't in Russia on the dates, then retracted. He didn't stay in that hotel, then retracted. He didn't have the Presidential Suite, then retracted. He didn't have anyone come up to his room...

His bodyguards retracted that one.

Anyway, that's that. Mr Trump has proven the contents of the Steele Dossier with his words and actions. He has taken foreign policy directly from Putin, and he continues to do so. His body language in the presence of Putin indicates subservience, fear, an overwhealming desire to obey.

Yes, Master.

and you of course believe them right ?

OH DEAR

Negative, dear one. I most certainly do not.

Putin, ex-KGB, has deep experience with PrOpAgAnDa. It helped bring him to power. It certainly

It_is_the_light, no?

Rarely, well apart from Ducky Boy, have I seen such ignorant ?

Well making such obviously fallacious comments - what do you expect.

Do you see Putin under your bed and wherever you go?

They're lumped together because Putin resorted to criminal actions to see Mr Trump erected, dear.

Mr Trump has since fought for Putin's interests, fighting congress to stop the Russian sanctions, pretending the Russians didn't hack the Dems, and all manner of Russian foreign policy favours, from trying to weaken NATO to pushing obscure Eastern European conspiracy theories that come directly from Russia.

Mr Trump has even stepped out of Syria to allow Putin a foothold in the Middle East. Putin couldn't have asked for a better Prez, no?

Putin has declared his intentions to reclaim the territory of the former Soviet Union. He did this with Georgia, and he's done it with the Ukraine. He meddles in the erections of a host of Eastern European states, such as Finland and Estonia. He's even meddled as far away as Venezuela, right near Uncle's back door.

No state in or near Europe has been so brazen as challenging the borders of another. Europe has been in an unprecedented state of peace since the end of the Cold War. Putin now challenges this. He has, remember, annexed half of the Ukraine. Putin is the biggest threat to the peace in Europe, not to mention America, where he wages a war of FAKE news. It is believed that the order to shoot down MH17 could not have come from anybody other than Putin.

So yes, Rich. Putin is indeed a threat to the global order. Mr Trump's support for Putin goes not only against US interests, but the entire world's. Mr Trump is probably the only member of his handpicked cabinet, his administration and both houses of government to hold these views, and do you know?

These are not political views. Mr Trump doesn't have them. There is only one way to explain Mr Trump's support for Putin:

Putin owns him.

You?

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜ Reply #54 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 12:05pm The Labor Party did it when they conspired with the NZ Labour Party to get dirt on Joyce's imigration status.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 141823 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜ Reply #55 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 12:10pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 12:05pm: The Labor Party did it when they conspired with the NZ Labour Party to get dirt on Joyce's imigration status. Impeach them then. Let us know how that works out for you.
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Reply #56 - Dec 9^th, 2019 at 12:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 9^th, 2019 at 12:05pm:

The Labor Party did it when they conspired with the NZ Labour Party to get dirt on Joyce's imigration status.

Barnaby didn't immigrate, dear. He was an NZ citizen through his parents.

The Labor Party didn't do anything. Parliament asked Barnaby to lodge his evidence. He did.

He was forced to stand down, rescind his NZ citizenship and run again.

Pretty dumb rule if you ask me, but that's the constitution for you.

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