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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #15 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:38am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

oh dear ,

ever heard of the steele dossier beloved ?

again found out of your depth ? keep trying ,

so fun to watch and expose as much

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I most certainly have, dear. Is Steele a foreign government?

I'm curious.

well let us expose more of your ignorance by all means ,

where did Steele get HIS information from beloved ?

Spies, I think. You?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #16 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:53am

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:38am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

oh dear ,

ever heard of the steele dossier beloved ?

again found out of your depth ? keep trying ,

so fun to watch and expose as much

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

I most certainly have, dear. Is Steele a foreign government?

I'm curious.

well let us expose more of your ignorance by all means ,

where did Steele get HIS information from beloved ?

Spies, I think. You?

Spies you say beloved eh ?

what Spies are them and those ..?

from where do these Spies hold fealty and loyalty unto mayhaps ?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #17 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 9:12am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:09am:

KangAnon wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:00am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

KangAnon wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

It's not against the rules IF you pay for it.

It becomes an issue when it's offered to you or you solicit it for free as a thing of value, and then it becomes a campaign contribution which is illegal (in terms of a foreign entity).

The system is bullshit and it shouldn't be allowed at all, but that's the very top level explanation.

Trump with Russia and Ukraine both times sought and received this information and being the cheap bastard he is, his team never paid for it. Then he continued to openly solicit further information and contributions from them and other countries, it's not a good look.

The cover-up thereafter, the obstruction, the lies, it's just layers upon layers...

It's getting more obvious how bad this is by the reactions and attempts like this by those who support Trump to try and defend him.

more rubbish from another old nag with the blinkers on ..

unbackable donkey in the 5th at Randwick

If you'd like to cite any regulation that states otherwise, be my guest, otherwise, you can take your bullshit claims and waste them on others.

You talk a big game and make all these claims about other posters but you never, ever, back these up.

It seems like another case of "I want the rules to be one way, so I will attack anyone who disagrees, even if they're right".

Classic defeatist behaviour.

we are having a discussion and the sad one barges in and wants to confuse the narrative

I answered the question that forms the basis of the thread,

"Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal?"

If you don't like the answer, that's not my fault, I didn't mean to trigger you.

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #18 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:13am

Panther wrote on Dec 4^th, 2019 at 11:10pm:

President Trump seems open to
accepting dirt on his opponents
from foreign governments.
Is that against the law?

Completely and utterly irrelevant.

A President doesn't have to break the law in order to be impeached.

You know very little about the American political system, don't you?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #19 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:34am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:38am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

oh dear ,

ever heard of the steele dossier beloved ?

again found out of your depth ? keep trying ,

so fun to watch and expose as much

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

I most certainly have, dear. Is Steele a foreign government?

I'm curious.

well let us expose more of your ignorance by all means ,

where did Steele get HIS information from beloved ?

Spies, I think. You?

Spies you say beloved eh ?

what Spies are them and those ..?

from where do these Spies hold fealty and loyalty unto mayhaps ?

Russia, I believe. Some are exiled in England.

But I'm curious. Are you suggesting such research should not be undertaken and provided to your dear children?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #20 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:47am

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:34am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:38am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

oh dear ,

ever heard of the steele dossier beloved ?

again found out of your depth ? keep trying ,

so fun to watch and expose as much

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

I most certainly have, dear. Is Steele a foreign government?

I'm curious.

well let us expose more of your ignorance by all means ,

where did Steele get HIS information from beloved ?

Spies, I think. You?

Spies you say beloved eh ?

what Spies are them and those ..?

from where do these Spies hold fealty and loyalty unto mayhaps ?

Russia, I believe. Some are exiled in England.

But I'm curious. Are you suggesting such research should not be undertaken and provided to your dear children?

so you are saying Clinton Paid Russian Spies to Fabricate Non Factual fairytales and disinfo to program the American People beloved ?

please go on, we must explore further your admission here ..

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #21 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 11:47am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:34am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:53am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 8:38am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:44am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:42am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 7:38am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 12:28am:

Hillary did so in 2016 BUT she's a Democrat - the rules don't apply!

If Democrats didn't have double standards they would have none at all!

Hillary got dirt from a foreign state?

Do tell, dear.

oh dear ,

ever heard of the steele dossier beloved ?

again found out of your depth ? keep trying ,

so fun to watch and expose as much

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

I most certainly have, dear. Is Steele a foreign government?

I'm curious.

well let us expose more of your ignorance by all means ,

where did Steele get HIS information from beloved ?

Spies, I think. You?

Spies you say beloved eh ?

what Spies are them and those ..?

from where do these Spies hold fealty and loyalty unto mayhaps ?

Russia, I believe. Some are exiled in England.

But I'm curious. Are you suggesting such research should not be undertaken and provided to your dear children?

so you are saying Clinton Paid Russian Spies to Fabricate Non Factual fairytales and disinfo to program the American People beloved ?

please go on, we must explore further your admission here ..

No, dear, I'm suggesting the Washington Free Beacon, a pro-Republican news site, paid Fusion GPS, a Washington-based strategic intelligence firm. A Democrat lawyer heard about this and contracted them as well. Fusion GPS then hired Steele to do the job.

The Clinton campaign said they had no idea about the dossier. No DNC funds were used. Steele had no idea about the Dems.

Quote:

In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[10][11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier

But that's irrelevant. Fusion GPS and David Steele were not acting on behalf of foreign states.

Mr Trump's team, on the other hand, met directly with agents of the Russian government to get dirt on Hillary. Mr Trump publicly asked Putin to release Hillary's hacked emails. Roger Stone, Mr Trump's close friend and self-described "dirty trickster", contacted Wikileaks and gave confidential polling data to agents of the Russian government. The Russians passed this onto a team of Russians they had working in support of Mr Trump.

The same Russians have since spread the story that the Ukraine did it. Cunning, no?

So again, dear one. I'm curious. How do you see any parallel between these two actions?

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #22 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 2:59pm

so Steel was commissioned to construct a Dossier paid for by by Fusion GPS and Madam Cyberhack ...

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/26/782908119/fusion-gps-founders-on-russian-efforts-...

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My guests are the founders of Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch. They're former Wall Street Journal reporters. Some of the Russians who surfaced in the Trump investigation were people Simpson and Fritsch had reported on at The Wall Street Journal while investigating Russian corruption and organized crime. Simpson and Fritsch have written a new book called "Crime In Progress" about their investigation into Trump, its impact and Republican attempts to discredit Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier.

Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, welcome to FRESH AIR. What were some of the findings in your report and in the Steele dossier that you consider to be the most important early warnings of Donald Trump's ties to Russia?

PETER FRITSCH: The truth is Chris Steele came into this project about nine months in. We started looking at Donald Trump and his relationship to Russia as part of a much broader project, which was looking at Donald Trump's business career. As has been reported, we first started working for Republicans. About nine months in, we started working with Chris Steele. Now, we saw a lot in the early going that caused us to have concerns about Donald Trump's relationship with Russia.

On Nov. 1, 2016, according to the documents, the FBI told Steele it was unlikely to continue working with him, and he should not "obtain any intelligence whatsoever on behalf of the FBI."

yes because Fusion GPS paid for the fabricated dirt , any urine soaked checks yet ??

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/25/hillary-clintons-campaign-and-dn...

Report: Clinton campaign and DNC helped fund Trump-Russia Steele dossier

Quote:

The revelation is likely to fuel complaints by Trump that the dossier, which the president has derided as “phony stuff”, is a politically motivated collection of salacious claims. Yet the FBI has worked to corroborate the document, and in a sign of its ongoing relevance to investigators, special counsel Robert Mueller’s team – which is investigating potential coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign – weeks ago questioned the former British spy, Christopher Steele, who helped compile the claims in the dossier.

The dossier, which circulated in Washington last year and was turned over to the FBI for its review, contends that Russia was engaged in a longstanding effort to aid Trump and had amassed compromising information about him. Trump has repeatedly dismissed the document as false and in recent days has questioned on Twitter whether Democrats or the FBI had helped fund it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-dossier-author-talks-senate-intel-com...

WASHINGTON — Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who authored a 35-page dossier alleging that the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia, has been in talks with the Senate Intelligence Committee about speaking to its leaders, three sources familiar with the situation told NBC News.

In a development first reported on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Thursday night, the sources disputed the characterization of the situation by Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., the chairman of the intelligence committee. Burr said this week that Steele had flatly declined the committee's offer to speak to him, and the committee thus had "hit a brick wall" in its attempts to investigate the dossier.

One source close to Steele said that in late September, Steele relayed to Washington, through an associate, that Steele in fact would be happy to meet with Burr and Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the committee's ranking Democrat.

Two other sources said the situation was "more complicated" than portrayed by Burr during a news conference Wednesday.

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #23 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Dec 4^th, 2019 at 11:10pm:

President Trump seems open to
accepting dirt on his opponents
from foreign governments.
Is that against the law?

Completely and utterly irrelevant.

A President doesn't have to break the law in order to be impeached.

You know very little about the American political system, don't you?

And lil Peccahead, the US President Donald Trump can be impeached six ways to Sunday by the partisan democ-RAT controlled 'kangaroo court' House of Representatives.....but, he will still be the President of the United States of America, hardly worse for wear, after they impeach him, & when they present their contrived 'Articles of Impeachment' to the Republican controlled United States Senate, they will see how far those partisan 'Articles of Impeachment' get.............if they aren't thrown out of the Senate Chambers simply because they are nothing more than partisan accusations that have no merit, & certainly no chance of getting the SUPER-MAJORITY vote required to remove the President.....simply meaning Pecca, you will just have to endure awash in butt-hurt crocodile tears as he remains President of the United States of America, exposing first how much of a sham their partisan impeachment farce of false accusations was, & how it got it's unheralded cremation at the hands of the Republicans, who will summarily dispose of those false accusations......with or without a political 'trial'.

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Reply #24 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:19pm

Panther wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Dec 4^th, 2019 at 11:10pm:

President Trump seems open to
accepting dirt on his opponents
from foreign governments.
Is that against the law?

Completely and utterly irrelevant.

A President doesn't have to break the law in order to be impeached.

You know very little about the American political system, don't you?

And lil Peccahead, the US President Donald Trump can be impeached ...

... without breaking the law.

Correct.

Strange you didn't know that before.

Oh well, I've taught you something.

You can thank me later.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜ Reply #25 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:58pm Clinton has lied repeatedly about funding the dossier: Kennedy
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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #26 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 4:05pm

Potential legal implications from Trump dossier scandal

BOTH Debbie Wasserman Shultz and John Pedo Podesta , BOTH Hillary Officials , DENIED they had anything to do with the Fake and Phony Dossier .. a total and calculated LIE

that allowed the fake dossier to continue with concerned traction in the Fake News Matrix , when it was all a set up from the start

Legal Implications ????

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Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜
Reply #27 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 4:11pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 4:05pm:

Potential legal implications from Trump dossier scandal

BOTH Debbie Wasserman Shultz and John Pedo Podesta , BOTH Hillary Officials , DENIED they had anything to do with the Fake and Phony Dossier .. a total and calculated LIE

that allowed the fake dossier to continue with concerned traction in the Fake News Matrix , when it was all a set up from the start

Legal Implications ????

Your video is over 2 years old, the question has been answered already.

"None".

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⮞ Getting dirt from a foreign govt is probably leg
Reply #28 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 4:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 3:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Dec 4^th, 2019 at 11:10pm:

President Trump seems open to
accepting dirt on his opponents
from foreign governments.
Is that against the law?

Completely and utterly irrelevant.

A President doesn't have to break the law in order to be impeached.

You know very little about the American political system, don't you?

And lil Peccahead, the US President Donald Trump can be impeached ...

... without breaking the law.

Correct.

Strange you didn't know that before.

Oh well, I've taught you something.

You can thank me later.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 141823 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Is getting dirt from a foreign entity illegal? ⮜ Reply #29 - Dec 5^th, 2019 at 4:20pm "The Founders made clear that an impeachable or convictable offense need not be a crime. Hamilton said it applied to 'the misconduct of public men.'" You don't have to break a law to be impeached. Panther's learnt a valuable lesson.
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